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fle6isnow wrote...

And just for lulz...

If you are a BSN poster and have input for the OP – we respect your opinion and want to hear it. We’re committed to address your constructive feedback as best we can. In return, I’d ask that you help us do that by supporting what I truly believe is the best thread fle6isnow has yet crafted. I urge you to do your own research: read the links, finish it and tell us what you think. Tell your friends if you feel it’s a good thread as a whole. Trust that we are doing our damndest, as always, to address your feedback. As artists, we care about our fans deeply and we appreciate your support.

Thank you for your feedback – we are listening.


Win! Where would you like your one free "internetz" delivered to?

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Allan Schumacher wrote...

fle6isnow wrote...

Editing. The forums do not like copy-paste from word. =/

But I hide behind artistic integrity! I shall kept the links the same, but clarify and provide closure. Lol.


Some clarity would be awesome! :D

Thats just funny for so many reasons:lol:

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Sure is empty in this thread...

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I feel like I'm in backwards land.

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I stopped here: How Endings Make Sense

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Mesmurae wrote...

Sure is empty in this thread...


Yeah, but most of the discussion is happening in the linked threads, anyway. I'm ok with this being just a link dump that I bump or update every now and then.

Don't worry, we are listening! :P

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fle6isnow wrote...

And just for lulz...

If you are a BSN poster and have input for the OP – we respect your opinion and want to hear it. We’re committed to address your constructive feedback as best we can. In return, I’d ask that you help us do that by supporting what I truly believe is the best thread fle6isnow has yet crafted. I urge you to do your own research: read the links, finish it and tell us what you think. Tell your friends if you feel it’s a good thread as a whole. Trust that we are doing our damndest, as always, to address your feedback. As artists, we care about our fans deeply and we appreciate your support.

Thank you for your feedback – we are listening.


You just won the internetz! :lol:

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From a quick glance at the first post I am guessing this is some kind of troll. Either way.. IMO, people that think the SINGLE ENDING to ME3 is fine... Are just delusional. Either that, or they can't see bad writing when it slaps them in the face. These are the people that probably played ME3 on the shooter mode. They wanted a quick BANG BANG.

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Vasparian wrote...

From a quick glance at the first post I am guessing this is some kind of troll. Either way.. IMO, people that think the SINGLE ENDING to ME3 is fine... Are just delusional. Either that, or they can't see bad writing when it slaps them in the face. These are the people that probably played ME3 on the shooter mode. They wanted a quick BANG BANG.

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I have yet to see anyone come up with a pro-end statement that comes close to rebutting this video:



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I don't like the endings but I approve this thread.

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Picked a few random listed threads. One was just pointing out how two minor points listed by people who don't like the ending could have been interpreted another way...ok fair.

The other was an "I liked the ending" {because it was pretty}.

I'm done here.

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Yay, more opinions. Like the appetizer that never ends when you just want to chow down on some medium-rare fact. lol

Nah, but in all seriousness OP, this is actually a damn commendable thing you're doing compiling those different threads in one, easy to navigate, mega-thread. Now to read through the pro-ender topics I missed. I may not like the ending, but I do like other people's thoughts.

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Eain wrote...

This thread may suffer from some formatting issues.

But if this is an artistic choice, don't change it.


Oh you... :whistle:

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fle6isnow wrote...

I think some of us "pro-enders" are tired of typing the same thing over and over, so here's a link-dump of all the threads/posts/blogs about why people liked the ending. There may also be some threads that are not necessarily pro-ending, but include some posts and discussion about why people liked the endings. I'm not including the ones that just go "I liked the ending" and give no reason/discussion whatsoever, or the threads that are just pro and anti people just sniping as each other, as that isn't very helpful.

If anyone wants to type their reasons why they liked the endings in this thread, they are definitely free to do so. Let's just keep the discussions civil in here, ok?

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Personal Views/Analyses

For those who liked the ending --please help by sH0tgUn jUliA
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10849637/1

Mass Effect 3: My defense ofBioware's ending, as is. Discuss logic, lore,...
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11189024/1

My take on ME3, the ending, etc. - SPOILER WARNING by
AtreiyaN7
social.bioware.com/269892/blog/211643/

Why Synthesis was a Good Choice for My Shepherd by ardensia
social.bioware.com/3564527/blog/212369/

Probably the only one here but... I loved the endings. By Dragoonlordz
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9905757

Why I love the ending, why I disagree with (most) plotholes, and why we should have... by firebreather19
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11226595

My new thoughts on ending and symbolism by tenojitsu
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11143176/1
Kishotenketsu—why I liked the Mass Effect 3 endings. by fle6isnow
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10603297/1

Post by LstOfTheBrunnenG
http://hardforum.com...&postcount=1007

People who like the ending: Why is itgood? By chester013
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11199425/1

Reasons why the ending is good. by GiarcYekrub
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11267537/1

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How Endings Make Sense WRT Lore and/or Narrative

The Ending was Foreshadowed but just Delivered really, really badly. By ChildOfEden
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11147817/1

We're not supposed to know how certain actions play out. By Hudathan
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9868168

Very Long Analysis of ME3 Ending, aka why the ending is great (spoilers) by Skyfyre
www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.361199-Very-Long-Analysis-of-ME3-Ending-aka-why-the-ending-is-great-spoilers
The Crucible and the destruction of the relays makes narrative sense by My Chemical Bromance
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11216760

Why the mass relays had to be destroyed by Isichar
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11129694


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[/b]Explaining "Plot Holes", Logic, etc.


Why the Catalyst's Logic is Right...by JShepppp
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10761785/1

TIM being on the Citadel during the ending shouldn't be a plot hole? By Hudathan
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/10594940

Things people forget that they call "plot holes"
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11142960


I'm afraid we need to use... Math (Weekes is right). By MyChemicalBromance
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11158454/1

Why the Mass Relays' Explosion Did NOT Destroy the Galaxy by HBC Dresden
social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/11157441
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[b]If you have a link you want to include in the OP, or any suggestions about how to categorize or organize the links, please let me know!


(Edit: artistic integrity! I kept the links the same, but clarified and provided closure. Lol. Also Bioware forums, YU NO POST PROPERLY?!?!)

And just for lulz...

If you are a BSN poster and have input for
the OP – we respect your opinion and want to hear it. We’re committed to
address your constructive feedback as best we can. In return, I’d ask
that you help us do that by supporting what I truly believe is the best
thread fle6isnow has yet crafted. I urge you to do your own research:
read the links, finish it and tell us what you think. Tell your friends
if you feel it’s a good thread as a whole. Trust that we are doing our
damndest, as always, to address your feedback. As artists, we care
about our fans deeply and we appreciate your support.

Thank you for your feedback – we are listening.


I was bored so i made you  clickable links 

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Tovanus wrote...

I have yet to see anyone come up with a pro-end statement that comes close to rebutting this video:


We don't have time to make 40min videos. We're too busy having fun playing the game.:lol:

Although I've put a moratorium on it after finishing my 3rd replay, because I reaaaally need to finish other games on my Steam list.

Vasparian wrote...

From a quick glance at the first post I
am guessing this is some kind of troll. Either way.. IMO, people that
think the SINGLE ENDING to ME3 is fine... Are just delusional. Either
that, or they can't see bad writing when it slaps them in the face.
These are the people that probably played ME3 on the shooter mode. They
wanted a quick BANG BANG.


Subguy614 wrote...

Picked a few random listed threads. One
was just pointing out how two minor points listed by people who don't
like the ending could have been interpreted another way...ok fair.

The other was an "I liked the ending" {because it was pretty}.

I'm done here.


To these two posters, don't worry, we are listening! What part of the post did you like?

No but really, which one was the "because it was pretty" thread? I'll have to review that.

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Narayan23 wrote...


I was bored so i made you  clickable links 


Thanks!

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I didn't think you guys still existed anymore. Oh well good luck to you. I'm still mad about PAX not because of the ending. I just felt disrespected. I got the ending if it matters.

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I'm really pleased you were able to decypher an ending out of the garbled mess that was the last 5 minutes. A significant (I'm hesitant to say 'majority' but I really do think it is the majority) are unable to. This isn't due to our error, it is clearly Bioware's (either error or intention)

Adding a new character so late to the story arc (with only 14 lines of dialogue) and changing the core conflict of that story so drastically, so late in the game is a dangerous and difficult thing to do.

Bioware has done this and it is awful, defending your interpretation is ok and more power to you for trying, but I (and a large number of others) completely disagree with you.

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Wow, nice to meet you Mr. Hudson

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Thanks, OP.

I get tired of repeating myself.

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Gormane01 wrote...

I'm really pleased you were able to decypher an ending out of the garbled mess that was the last 5 minutes. A significant (I'm hesitant to say 'majority' but I really do think it is the majority) are unable to. This isn't due to our error, it is clearly Bioware's (either error or intention)

Adding a new character so late to the story arc (with only 14 lines of dialogue) and changing the core conflict of that story so drastically, so late in the game is a dangerous and difficult thing to do.

Bioware has done this and it is awful, defending your interpretation is ok and more power to you for trying, but I (and a large number of others) completely disagree with you.


Agree to disagree. Shake hands, and all that.

yukon fire wrote...

Wow, nice to meet you Mr. Hudson


I only wish I were Hudson. If I were him, the end of ME3 would have 20% more ponies.

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@OP
I wish you luck, that's not sarcasm, I'm serious, you are going to need it.

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yukon fire

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oh, so where do you work in bioware.

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I got the ending I just see it as a mistake but then again I also see hobbits as a mistake. This ending was a hobbit.