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[majinbuu1307]

zambingo wrote...

I don't see why that explosive force MUST require that room to be obliterated. I have seen many real life explosions and I am always surprised by just what can survive and what can't within the blast zone. In addition the apex point is never shown up close in any ending. We don't know how that blast dissipates. There is too much 1) that we don't about the nature of the explosion 2) that we don't know about the Cit/Cru, the Reapers and that just how that fictional technology works.

This:)

[ShepGep]

So...if he's on the Citadel...which blew up into tens if not hundreds of thousands of pieces...is he floating in orbit? If so...how is he breathing? In fact, how is he even breathing when talking to the starchild after going up the space magic elevator?

[knight5923]

kinda think the original post by Jess was meant as a joke:?

[majinbuu1307]

ShepGep wrote...

So...if he's on the Citadel...which blew up into tens if not hundreds of thousands of pieces...is he floating in orbit? If so...how is he breathing? In fact, how is he even breathing when talking to the starchild after going up the space magic elevator?

Show me the video or picture where you see the citadel blowing into any sort of peices besides the arms coming apart:) good day.

[majinbuu1307]

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[J-Sheridan]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

J-Sheridan wrote...
Are you naturally this dense or that desperate ?




Shepard can barely walk and is bleeding heavily but somehow he jumps... apparantly gravity left the ending along with Shepard's helment against the vacum of space.




Its bad enough the ending is a load of garbage... the leaps required to make Shepard live is even more hilarious.

You complete moron. I wasn't saying thats how he escaped, I was telling you thats where he was, He is still on the catalyst. If i said if i jumped high enough i'd hit the moon, doesn't mean i friggin can. 

Now your just blatantly lying or incomptently stupid.

Your magical source says Shepard is on the Citadel... your saying he is on the Catalyst - Umm... contradiction much ?

You say he jumped... - From the Catalyst to the Citadel, cause thats totally not retarded

By your own insane assertion your source is wrong or your wrong. Gonna go and argue against your saviour now or shall you quickly backpedal behind a line of further BS ?

[Iconoclaste]

OK. I think I have the whole sequence right now. First, a ball of red energy starts around the junction point of the Crucible with the Citadel's platform. It expands in all directions, without affecting the structure at all, and that is the sphere that expands all the way to engulf Earth, disabling the Reapers as it passes them by. Depending on EMS (I guess), you get a "vaporize" or "good" blast wave - one that destroys Big Ben, the other one does not. After this huge "space magic ball", you have the explosion, starting at some point upwards in the Presidium tower, far from the platform Shepard was standing on. This grows into a big fireball rather slowly, then it shrinks back to a point, then big blast that dislocates the inner ring / arms, and then another more "conventional" explosion that engulfs the center hub, resorbs, then the red beam is sent towards the Charon Relay.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 avril 2012 - 02:31 .

[Iconoclaste]

Shepard might very well have been projected without too much harm to some place of the Citadel's hub, since that first blast was more a slow "push" from the expanding "magic red ball".

[sedrikhcain]

The very notion that there is a piece of the Citadel lying around intact, not blown to bits and not incinerated upon re-entry, after the events of the ending, is absurd. None of it makes any sense, unless you really believe that whole IT, it was all a dream nonsense. And if that truly is BioWare's explanation, then that probably is the one thing dumb enough to make me abandon them entirely for my own sanity. What a mess.

edited for: typos, grammar.

Modifié par sedrikhcain, 12 avril 2012 - 02:56 .

[kalasaurus]

That tweet confuses me. How is Shepard still on the Citadel if it exploded? I guess some pieces of the Citadel are in tact with its kinetic barrier and Shepard survived on some piece of it? So, Shepard's on a floating piece of the Citadel in space? Huh...

Can someone explain this to me?  I want to make sense of this ending...

Modifié par GlassElephant, 12 avril 2012 - 02:43 .

[Iconoclaste]

Well, the Citadel's hull is said to be "37m thick", and able to sustain continual pounding with heavy weapons for a long time without losing any integrity.

A 30m meteor hit ground some time ago to leave a huge crater somewhere in the US, they made a National Park of it. The meteor burned in the atmosphere, but not completely, and a 5m metallic  "core" made it to the ground and digged the crater on impact. This meteor had enormous velocity compared to the Citadel, which is only hovering in place up there. I don't know the terminal velocity it could have reached before hitting ground, but from the videos, it's still in orbit after the blast, and even the arms drift very, very slowly apart.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 avril 2012 - 02:50 .

[majinbuu1307]

bump

[sedrikhcain]

GlassElephant wrote...

That tweet confuses me. How is Shepard still on the Citadel if it exploded? I guess some pieces of the Citadel are in tact with its kinetic barrier and Shepard survived on some piece of it? So, Shepard's on a floating piece of the Citadel in space? Huh...

Can someone explain this to me?  I want to make sense of this ending...

Don't try too hard. You'll hurt yourself.

[ryuasiu]

sigh...so let me get this straight. You create one post for this then you create a 2nd post for the same thing. looking through your post list in your profile most of the posts you have made were made trolling IT believers.

While I dont like those that make IT into a belief, trolling and posting the same post over and over again is not really going to change minds. espically when your trying to insult them over your own belief.

[TheCrazyHobo]

GlassElephant wrote...

That tweet confuses me. How is Shepard still on the Citadel if it exploded? I guess some pieces of the Citadel are in tact with its kinetic barrier and Shepard survived on some piece of it? So, Shepard's on a floating piece of the Citadel in space? Huh...

Can someone explain this to me?  I want to make sense of this ending...

Well, seeing as the Presidium and the Council Tower are both explode after the Cruicible fires, there is no hope for Shep to survive on the Citadel.  Also, how is she supposed to survive being in space without his suit (its toast) to reach one of the wards in the five seconds between the Cruicible firing and the Presidium exploding.  The only logical explanation is that he is still on Earth.  Even the environment that he is in looks like London, not the Citadel. 

[majinbuu1307]

ryuasiu wrote...

sigh...so let me get this straight. You create one post for this then you create a 2nd post for the same thing. looking through your post list in your profile most of the posts you have made were made trolling IT believers.

While I dont like those that make IT into a belief, trolling and posting the same post over and over again is not really going to change minds. espically when your trying to insult them over your own belief.

:innocent: I'm honored you went and checked out my profile.

Modifié par majinbuu1307, 12 avril 2012 - 02:54 .

[majinbuu1307]

TheCrazyHobo wrote...

GlassElephant wrote...

That tweet confuses me. How is Shepard still on the Citadel if it exploded? I guess some pieces of the Citadel are in tact with its kinetic barrier and Shepard survived on some piece of it? So, Shepard's on a floating piece of the Citadel in space? Huh...

Can someone explain this to me?  I want to make sense of this ending...

Well, seeing as the Presidium and the Council Tower are both explode after the Cruicible fires, there is no hope for Shep to survive on the Citadel.  Also, how is she supposed to survive being in space without his suit (its toast) to reach one of the wards in the five seconds between the Cruicible firing and the Presidium exploding.  The only logical explanation is that he is still on Earth.  Even the environment that he is in looks like London, not the Citadel. 

they dont explode. we see a flash, and after it is still, very, very, intact.

[kalasaurus]

sedrikhcain wrote...

GlassElephant wrote...

That tweet confuses me. How is Shepard still on the Citadel if it exploded? I guess some pieces of the Citadel are in tact with its kinetic barrier and Shepard survived on some piece of it? So, Shepard's on a floating piece of the Citadel in space? Huh...

Can someone explain this to me?  I want to make sense of this ending...

Don't try too hard. You'll hurt yourself.

I wouldn't want to do that.  Of course, this makes more sense than her surviving a fall from space down to Earth.

[Marta Rio II]

sedrikhcain wrote...

The very notion of their being a piece of the Citadel lying around intact, not blown to bits and not incinerated upon re-entry, after the events of the ending is absurd. None of it makes any sense, unless you really believe that whole IT, it was all a dream nonsense. And if that truly is BioWare's explanation, then that probably is the one thing dumb enough to make me abandon them entirely for my own sanity. What a mess.

The point that the OP and Merizan (and others) have been trying to make is that the the broken apart pieces of the Citadel/Crucible did not necessarily re-enter the Earth's atmosphere right away.  Which makes some sense...I mean heck there's a bunch of space debris orbiting the Earth as we speak; it'll take months/years before atmospheric drag slows it down enough that it re-enters the atmosphere.

Whether you think it's plausible that Shep survived the explosion from the red tube (and the the subsequent radiation of red energy) is another story.  It looked like a pretty bad explosion to me, but...well heroes in various film/video games have surived worse.  Personally, I wouldn't find it all that immersion-breaking for Shep to survive the explosion (especially since he's got all those synthetic bits in him) but your mileage may vary.

[majinbuu1307]

Marta Rio II wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

The very notion of their being a piece of the Citadel lying around intact, not blown to bits and not incinerated upon re-entry, after the events of the ending is absurd. None of it makes any sense, unless you really believe that whole IT, it was all a dream nonsense. And if that truly is BioWare's explanation, then that probably is the one thing dumb enough to make me abandon them entirely for my own sanity. What a mess.

The point that the OP and Merizan (and others) have been trying to make is that the the broken apart pieces of the Citadel/Crucible did not necessarily re-enter the Earth's atmosphere right away.  Which makes some sense...I mean heck there's a bunch of space debris orbiting the Earth as we speak; it'll take months/years before atmospheric drag slows it down enough that it re-enters the atmosphere.

Whether you think it's plausible that Shep survived the explosion from the red tube (and the the subsequent radiation of red energy) is another story.  It looked like a pretty bad explosion to me, but...well heroes in various film/video games have surived worse.  Personally, I wouldn't find it all that immersion-breaking for Shep to survive the explosion (especially since he's got all those synthetic bits in him) but your mileage may vary.

*high five*

[sedrikhcain]

Marta Rio II wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

The very notion of their being a piece of the Citadel lying around intact, not blown to bits and not incinerated upon re-entry, after the events of the ending is absurd. None of it makes any sense, unless you really believe that whole IT, it was all a dream nonsense. And if that truly is BioWare's explanation, then that probably is the one thing dumb enough to make me abandon them entirely for my own sanity. What a mess.

The point that the OP and Merizan (and others) have been trying to make is that the the broken apart pieces of the Citadel/Crucible did not necessarily re-enter the Earth's atmosphere right away.  Which makes some sense...I mean heck there's a bunch of space debris orbiting the Earth as we speak; it'll take months/years before atmospheric drag slows it down enough that it re-enters the atmosphere.

Whether you think it's plausible that Shep survived the explosion from the red tube (and the the subsequent radiation of red energy) is another story.  It looked like a pretty bad explosion to me, but...well heroes in various film/video games have surived worse.  Personally, I wouldn't find it all that immersion-breaking for Shep to survive the explosion (especially since he's got all those synthetic bits in him) but your mileage may vary.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. There's a critical mass where there are so many ridiculous things happening that the mind just says "Enough! This is BS -- even for an action movie!"

[majinbuu1307]

sedrikhcain wrote...

Marta Rio II wrote...

sedrikhcain wrote...

The very notion of their being a piece of the Citadel lying around intact, not blown to bits and not incinerated upon re-entry, after the events of the ending is absurd. None of it makes any sense, unless you really believe that whole IT, it was all a dream nonsense. And if that truly is BioWare's explanation, then that probably is the one thing dumb enough to make me abandon them entirely for my own sanity. What a mess.

The point that the OP and Merizan (and others) have been trying to make is that the the broken apart pieces of the Citadel/Crucible did not necessarily re-enter the Earth's atmosphere right away.  Which makes some sense...I mean heck there's a bunch of space debris orbiting the Earth as we speak; it'll take months/years before atmospheric drag slows it down enough that it re-enters the atmosphere.

Whether you think it's plausible that Shep survived the explosion from the red tube (and the the subsequent radiation of red energy) is another story.  It looked like a pretty bad explosion to me, but...well heroes in various film/video games have surived worse.  Personally, I wouldn't find it all that immersion-breaking for Shep to survive the explosion (especially since he's got all those synthetic bits in him) but your mileage may vary.

We'll just have to agree to disagree. There's a critical mass where there are so many ridiculous things happening that the mind just says "Enough! This is BS -- even for an action movie!"

Clearly you haven't watched 2012 NO freaking scientific way 95 percent of that would happen the way it did or as fast, but damn if that wasn't an entertaining movie.

[PlumPaul93]

Yeah I always thought that he was on the Citadel, don't know how, though I don't know how he's still alive either.

[kalasaurus]

majinbuu1307 wrote...
*snip*
 they dont explode. we see a flash, and after it is still, very, very, intact.

I rewatched the Destroy ending.  You're right, the Citadel doesn't explode (well, break apart completely).  I hope the DLC does a better job of explaining the ending than what we actually saw.  I just saw a big bright red light and thought "Oh crap, there goes the Citadel..."

Modifié par GlassElephant, 12 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[shakey123]

Space magic prevented shep from dying