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[kalasaurus]

It still makes more sense for Shepard to survive on the Citadel than survive re-entry back to Earth.

[balance5050]

GlassElephant wrote...

It still makes more sense for Shepard to survive on the Citadel than survive re-entry back to Earth.

Him never even taking the conduit up to wacky land makes more sense to me.

[kalasaurus]

balance5050 wrote...

GlassElephant wrote...

It still makes more sense for Shepard to survive on the Citadel than survive re-entry back to Earth.

Him never even taking the conduit up to wacky land makes more sense to me.

haha, yeah.  I wish it were all a dream and never happened.  This whole thing is a confusing mess.

[TheCrazyHobo]

balance5050 wrote...

 Relevant:

 

To sum this up: Do not trust what the game lore or what is show during the game's cutscences because the ultimate source of canon will be found in a Twitter feed.

[MassEffecter132]

LOL

[Savber100]

I don't see how indoctrination theory is disproved.

Shepard could have still been indoctrinated with the fact that the gist of it came in AFTER he went into the Citadel.

[Iconoclaste]

Regarding the "conduit", there's another thing that bugs the mind : from the place Shepard ends up after taking this "light" elevator, to the platform where he meets with Anderson, there are only a few hundred feet. When we see the Crucible dock with the Citadel, we see the whole area, from the base of the long center arm on which the tower is based, to the other side of the hub. The Crucible is huge, and takes most of the space on its side of the "platform". What could have been the Conduit's "straight line" from ground to a few hundred feet from the very center of the hub?

[adam_nox]

"I believe shep is on the citadel because I have no idea what happened and neither does the committee who scrapped plans to write a coherent ending."

[Iconoclaste]

I posted a series of images on page 11 of this present thread showing that, at first, the Crucible was approaching the Citadel FACING the Presidium Tower's top, hence the need for someone to "open the Citadel's arms" to allow the Crucible to "dock". After a few camera switches, we see the Crucible docking from the OTHER side of the Presidium Tower's base. Then, it would have been in the way of the "conduit". WTF...

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 avril 2012 - 04:13 .

[GetDaved]

The citadel friggin exploded! How is this even a tweet coming from Bioware? You clearly see the citadel explode, and it's even the exact region Shepard is located in.

But yeah, artistic integrity. This ending doesn't even have integrity within itself.

[balance5050]

Iconoclaste wrote...

Regarding the "conduit", there's another thing that bugs the mind : from the place Shepard ends up after taking this "light" elevator, to the platform where he meets with Anderson, there are only a few hundred feet. When we see the Crucible dock with the Citadel, we see the whole area, from the base of the long center arm on which the tower is based, to the other side of the hub. The Crucible is huge, and takes most of the space on its side of the "platform". What could have been the Conduit's "straight line" from ground to a few hundred feet from the very center of the hub?

The dimensions and the angles are so confusing when it comes to this part. First you beam up THROUGH solid matter, your head would now be pointing to earth. You walked a few hundred feet and realize you weren't even beamed to the middle. Then you go up the elvator and realize you still weren't in the middle. It's just crazy up there.

[balance5050]

adam_nox wrote...

"I believe shep is on the citadel because I have no idea what happened and neither does the committee who scrapped plans to write a coherent ending."

[Iconoclaste]

I checked back the movies from the final battle at the end of ME1, to see the state of the Citadel with its arms almost "closed". The "backside" of the Citadel's hub is NEVER closed, in any case. It is an open freeway inside the Citadel, and clearly this area was easily accessible to the Crucible all along, without the need for anyone to be inside to "open the arms". That could have saved Shepard from a dangerous run down in London...

[DirectorStormchaser1]

Jessica would not know a thing about EC. Since she states she is an Internet Snob and is in marketing. What we need is a writer since those in Marketing did not write the story. And Bioware is throwing there Fodder employees confusing you all.

Jessica is right on only one thing it will be more explained on Extend Cut on what truly happens.

But, if there is a Bioware employee which states something. It is very easy to check on what department they work in. If they are not the executives or the writer, remember they are the cannon fodder to distract you.

[Nobrandminda]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

He's surrounded by concrete, and that's just a piece of rebar.  It's too small and too straight to be a cable.

Or if it's supposed to be a cable, then it is, like damn near everything else in the ending, is too poorly presented to convey the information that it is supposed to convey.

[somewherenoplace]

 This might have been avoided if he had shot the red tube from a distance

[Iconoclaste]

If you look at a curved cable from one side, you will see the curve. If you move around and look with a 90 degrees angle from your previous view, you will see a straight cable. Or, if you're too close and the arc is too large, you will see an almost perfectly straight segment.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 avril 2012 - 04:28 .

[Hunter_Wolf]

Nobrandminda wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

He's surrounded by concrete, and that's just a piece of rebar.  It's too small and too straight to be a cable.

Or if it's supposed to be a cable, then it is, like damn near everything else in the ending, is too poorly presented to convey the information that it is supposed to convey.

Heh that made me smirk.

Rebar:


Speculate away!


And yeah, rebar is definitely not cables. Just try to bend this crap by hand.

Modifié par Hunter_Wolf, 12 avril 2012 - 04:32 .

[Iconoclaste]

Well, rebar torn out of concrete after an explosion will be twisted.

Here's another one that shows the same pattern :



Looks more like a pair of cables dangling from above. Rebar would have specular reflections on the bumpy rings, here there is only flat black between shiny surfaces. Probably metal circled tubes of a softer, flexible material.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 12 avril 2012 - 04:39 .

[Demmin Nass]

How long is this guy going to troll? This is one of two threads this OP has started citing this exact same worthless tweet.

It's like IT is a serious offense to his religion and he has made it his mission to find every single little scrap he can to try to disprove it. Only problem is you can't disprove something that isn't proven. IT is a THEORY. Stop being so butthurt over it.

On a side note; I wouldn't necessarily trust much of what Bioware says in any of it's employees tweets. With the problems with all the leaks they have had it wouldn't be surprising if they seeded some misinformation to keep people off balance. Seriously, why would they risk confirm anything in a tweet that could possibly spoil the DLC?

[liggy002]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

The Citadel exploded large chunks of it will head to Earth. And still how did Shepard survive the blood loss, tube explosion, Citadel explosion, red beam, the vacuum of space and the burns from Harbinger's ray? And re-entry and impact (if the likely thing happens and the Citadel falls towards Earth)?

Harbingers ray did NOT hit him dead on, probably get hit by the shockwave of it like he did in the beggining before you find the kid in the duct.
also, he survived the small explosion he made, garrus survived a rocket to the face, nuff said.

Harbinger's beam DIDN'T hit him head on but everyone else he fired at, he hit directly.  Yeah, that really makes sense.  Believe in the IT or not, the ending does not make sense without it.

[Demmin Nass]

liggy002 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

The Citadel exploded large chunks of it will head to Earth. And still how did Shepard survive the blood loss, tube explosion, Citadel explosion, red beam, the vacuum of space and the burns from Harbinger's ray? And re-entry and impact (if the likely thing happens and the Citadel falls towards Earth)?

Harbingers ray did NOT hit him dead on, probably get hit by the shockwave of it like he did in the beggining before you find the kid in the duct.
also, he survived the small explosion he made, garrus survived a rocket to the face, nuff said.

Harbinger's beam DIDN'T hit him head on but everyone else he fired at, he hit directly.  Yeah, that really makes sense.  Believe in the IT or not, the ending does not make sense without it.

This is true. But for some reason some people are prefectly content with the ending not making sense. Apparently they are too lazy to try to understand or make sense of the ending and would rather just hate all over Bioware. I guess hating on Bioware is the cool thing to do now.

[majinbuu1307]

Demmin Nass wrote...

How long is this guy going to troll? This is one of two threads this OP has started citing this exact same worthless tweet.

It's like IT is a serious offense to his religion and he has made it his mission to find every single little scrap he can to try to disprove it. Only problem is you can't disprove something that isn't proven. IT is a THEORY. Stop being so butthurt over it.

On a side note; I wouldn't necessarily trust much of what Bioware says in any of it's employees tweets. With the problems with all the leaks they have had it wouldn't be surprising if they seeded some misinformation to keep people off balance. Seriously, why would they risk confirm anything in a tweet that could possibly spoil the DLC?

aw aren't you cute,  you can search.

[Arppis]

Well then, kinetic barriers and such. They did say that Citadel has some emergency systems.

[majinbuu1307]

bump for science.