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[Shallyah]

Bioware twits also made clear that we can assume that everyone of plot relevance in the Citadel survived, regardless of the ending we chose. This also reinforces the theory that Shepard might actually be somewhere in the Citadel.

Not saying he is in the Citadel, but he perfectly might be.

[FatalX7.0]

Elite Midget wrote...

No, he dies. His skin was fried with worse than 3rd degree burns and he was bleeding out. Without immediate and intense medical aid he's going to die a very slow and painful death.

We didn't see his skin.


Also, PC files say "ShepardAlive".

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 avril 2012 - 01:35 .

[majinbuu1307]

Elite Midget wrote...

No, he dies. His skin was fried with worse than 3rd degree burns and he was bleeding out. Without immediate and intense medical aid he's going to die a very slow and painful death.

Except he doesn't die and more than one employee has said that he might even have a chance to reunite with whichever love interest.

[majinbuu1307]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

No, he dies. His skin was fried with worse than 3rd degree burns and he was bleeding out. Without immediate and intense medical aid he's going to die a very slow and painful death.

We didn't see his skin.


Also, PC files say "ShepardAlive".

High five*

[FatalX7.0]

[EugeneBi]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

*snip*

One of the bioware employees(forget which someone help with this?) stated that we don't actually see the citadel fully explode and to expect most of the people(main characters) on it to have survived. We do however see it come apart. But that thing is HUGE and probably capable of sustaining people even in seperate peices for a while.

*snip*

We do however see it come apart.

This. The problem is that the Citadel hovers over London, it does not have orbital speed. Which means anything loose will fall to Earth, including parts when it comes apart.

Modifié par EugeneBi, 11 avril 2012 - 01:42 .

[majinbuu1307]

Would love to know if the geth die or not. Not that I care THAT much, legion already died, pffft.

[Iconoclaste]

During all gameplay, Shepard can go to the very brink of death, and regain his vitality in a second, just with bio-gel. Maybe a healing cabinet blew up from the walls and landed close to him, so he could grab his medicine just in time.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 11 avril 2012 - 01:44 .

[DJBare]

Say what you will, Shepard never made it past Harbingers laser, now if you will excuse me, I'll just get my coat.

[Ultra Prism]

if they show in extended dlc about shepard surviving explosion to the face .... I am done... first kill him/her in begging of ME2 and do space magic more in ending of ME3 sure ... i am done

[FatalX7.0]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

Would love to know if the geth die or not. Not that I care THAT much, legion already died, pffft.

I don't think they did.

The Geth are software, their "bodies" are mobile platforms that hold their software. They're like walking computers. It's possible that their platforms were disabled, but their software would be fine, if they could be recovered from the disabled platforms.

In Legion's loyalty mission, most Geth were in big databanks.

Modifié par FatalX7.0, 11 avril 2012 - 01:47 .

[ShepardTheHopeful]

Anything to silence the indoctrination theory is a good post to me.

[Golferguy758]

No stone on Citadel other than statues.
If he came crashing down to earth why is he UNDER rubble instead of on it?
There are no seals where Shep was standing when the explosion HIT HIM AND ENGULFED HIM.
Didn't know there was wind in space.

[IS1296]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

[FatalX7.0]

Golferguy758 wrote...

No stone on Citadel other than statues.
If he came crashing down to earth why is he UNDER rubble instead of on it?
There are no seals where Shep was standing when the explosion HIT HIM AND ENGULFED HIM.
Didn't know there was wind in space.

Rubble fell down with him.

There was a whole lot of nothin' where Shep was standing. Was he in some kind of dome? Was it a window that allowed him to look out into space around him? I dunno, it was a weird area.

Explosions tend to send objects flying.

[FatalX7.0]

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

He's Shepard.

SHEPARD. No explanation needed.

[DJBare]

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...
Anything to silence the indoctrination theory is a good post to me.

What about plain old unconscious and dreaming?

[orenjikitty]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

Would love to know if the geth die or not. Not that I care THAT much, legion already died, pffft.

I don't think they did.

The Geth are software, their "bodies" are mobile platforms that hold their software. They're like walking computers. It's possible that their platforms were disabled, but their software would be fine, if they could be recovered from the disabled platforms.

In Legion's loyalty mission, most Geth were in big databanks.

I want the geth to live too, especially with the amount of time I spent trying to broker peace between them and the quarians but I'm very doubtful they are alive.

Legion did upload the Reaper code into all of them. I really hope they live. On topic, the rubble can be debated. I personally believe it's London. The Citadel's rubble would be spread more in space. Though you never know.

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...

Anything to silence the indoctrination theory is a good post to me.

 

The theory is sound. But that's just the thing: it's a Theory. Not everyone has to buy it but I have great respect for those who do. I dont believe in it. I believe it was just a story by a grandpa who forgot how it ended and made the last 5 minutes up.

Modifié par orenjikitty, 11 avril 2012 - 01:55 .

[Kanon777]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

No, he dies. His skin was fried with worse than 3rd degree burns and he was bleeding out. Without immediate and intense medical aid he's going to die a very slow and painful death.

We didn't see his skin.


Also, PC files say "ShepardAlive".

lol they think Shep died after taking a breath. Its one thing to not understand how it happened, but you cant deny that this is what Bioware wanted to show us...

[Eyeshield21]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

but shepard isn't like Master Chief with power armor that's vaccum proof(which also helps him re-enter Earth's atmosphere). His armor is burned off from the laser Harbinger hit him with, and he'd burn up if he re-entered Earth's atmosphere(remember, no armor, so s/he is screwed)

[Golferguy758]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

No stone on Citadel other than statues.
If he came crashing down to earth why is he UNDER rubble instead of on it?
There are no seals where Shep was standing when the explosion HIT HIM AND ENGULFED HIM.
Didn't know there was wind in space.

Rubble fell down with him.

There was a whole lot of nothin' where Shep was standing. Was he in some kind of dome? Was it a window that allowed him to look out into space around him? I dunno, it was a weird area.

Explosions tend to send objects flying.

So then you say the citadel crashed to earth from orbit. Why is Shepard not a pile of meat like in the 2nd Mass Effect.

He's standing outside of the presidium tower. i'd point out that he's also breathing in space at this point, but you'll say mass effect fields, and I'll counter that with being so near to the destruction point that those fields would most likely fail.

Simplest solution is either he never left Earth or Bioware completely fubared that ending. Take your pick.

[ShepardTheHopeful]

DJBare wrote...

ShepardTheHopeful wrote...
Anything to silence the indoctrination theory is a good post to me.

What about plain old unconscious and dreaming?

I'd accept that over indoctrination still makes more sense to me than that. But i'm pretty sure the ending was intentional they wouldn't be claiming artistic integrity and saying how they refuse to change the ending if it was all meant to have a dream. 

I'll go with whatever at this point to me i'm more pissed about PAX now than I ever was about the ending. 

[FatalX7.0]

Golferguy758 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

No stone on Citadel other than statues.
If he came crashing down to earth why is he UNDER rubble instead of on it?
There are no seals where Shep was standing when the explosion HIT HIM AND ENGULFED HIM.
Didn't know there was wind in space.

Rubble fell down with him.

There was a whole lot of nothin' where Shep was standing. Was he in some kind of dome? Was it a window that allowed him to look out into space around him? I dunno, it was a weird area.

Explosions tend to send objects flying.

So then you say the citadel crashed to earth from orbit. Why is Shepard not a pile of meat like in the 2nd Mass Effect.

He's standing outside of the presidium tower. i'd point out that he's also breathing in space at this point, but you'll say mass effect fields, and I'll counter that with being so near to the destruction point that those fields would most likely fail.

Simplest solution is either he never left Earth or Bioware completely fubared that ending. Take your pick.

I didn't say that.

I just answered your questions.

[ShepardTheHopeful]

Golferguy758 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

No stone on Citadel other than statues.
If he came crashing down to earth why is he UNDER rubble instead of on it?
There are no seals where Shep was standing when the explosion HIT HIM AND ENGULFED HIM.
Didn't know there was wind in space.

Rubble fell down with him.

There was a whole lot of nothin' where Shep was standing. Was he in some kind of dome? Was it a window that allowed him to look out into space around him? I dunno, it was a weird area.

Explosions tend to send objects flying.

So then you say the citadel crashed to earth from orbit. Why is Shepard not a pile of meat like in the 2nd Mass Effect.

He's standing outside of the presidium tower. i'd point out that he's also breathing in space at this point, but you'll say mass effect fields, and I'll counter that with being so near to the destruction point that those fields would most likely fail.

Simplest solution is either he never left Earth or Bioware completely fubared that ending. Take your pick.

My best guess is with the high resources conrads theories etc your crucible is able to distinguish that you are only partly synthetic so since the cruicble has that mastery the blast doesn't kill shepard but rather revives him back to a state where he doesn't have any synthetics in him aka ME1 status. That's the best I got it fits better than anything else I can think of. 

So basically conrad indirectly saved Shepard....ain't that somethin f*cking conrad

[Kanon777]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Also, his synthetic implants made his body much more durable.

They didn't get destroyed either, so I'm assuming the geth are also alive, yup yup.

I think its very possible Bioware will let the geth die in this situation, but dont assume anything yet lol