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[IS1296]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

He's Shepard.

SHEPARD. No explanation needed.

if "he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard", then there wouldn't be the need for squadmates or weapons, becasue by that logic shepard could just do anything without worrying about bleeding to death.

[Golferguy758]

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

Golferguy758 wrote...

No stone on Citadel other than statues.
If he came crashing down to earth why is he UNDER rubble instead of on it?
There are no seals where Shep was standing when the explosion HIT HIM AND ENGULFED HIM.
Didn't know there was wind in space.

Rubble fell down with him.

There was a whole lot of nothin' where Shep was standing. Was he in some kind of dome? Was it a window that allowed him to look out into space around him? I dunno, it was a weird area.

Explosions tend to send objects flying.

So then you say the citadel crashed to earth from orbit. Why is Shepard not a pile of meat like in the 2nd Mass Effect.

He's standing outside of the presidium tower. i'd point out that he's also breathing in space at this point, but you'll say mass effect fields, and I'll counter that with being so near to the destruction point that those fields would most likely fail.

Simplest solution is either he never left Earth or Bioware completely fubared that ending. Take your pick.

I didn't say that.

I just answered your questions.

Think my post came off as more hostile than intended, apologies. Wasn't meant to be. Here, have a happy image: 

[Parabolee77]

Really people? Feel free to not believe IT, I have no problem with skepticism of IT. But arguing that is not concrete leaves me dumbfounded. It's clearly concrete, there is no reason to use concrete in a space station and we have never seen any in the citadel.

It might not be London, but that makes the most sense.

[Brakensiek]

There is just no point in trying to make sense out of the ending. It is pretty obvious that it was thrown together at the last minute.

[TheCrazyHobo]

If you watch the red ending, you see that the MAIN explosion happens on the presidium on the citadel tower. Shep is standing on the bottom Citadel Tower, right where the Crucible connects with Citadel, this means when the explosion happens, Shep is toast. There is no way you can even say Shep survived the "mega lazor" or the following explosion, sorry. No re-entry is possible when you cease to exist.

The rubble scene is definitely on Earth. Last few times I was on the Citadel, I never saw concrete, only high-tech metal plating. Remember ME1 when Saren attacked?? Yup, no concrete there. Or how about when Cerberus attacked the Citadel, did you see any concrete then?? The answer is no. Rebar is used to reinforce concrete and it makes no sense for it to be anywhere else but Earth.

Have a nice day.

[dunre646]

the rubble looks more like it came from the "buildings" around the beam.

[TheMerchantMan]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

Shallyah wrote...

Why are people trying to find logical explanation to why Shepard lives after they've been travelling with blue aliens that can have babies only thinking of it?

It doesn't have to make sense, it's Sci-Fi. It's true Shepard might be in the Citadel, I read twits from Bioware staff members saying that even a fraction of the Citadel could probably maintain Life Support systems and own atmosphere, though we'll have to wait for Extended DLC to really know.

Thank you thats what I was getting at lol, as I said, we dont see it fully explode, could probably maintain life support, people like aria still alive etc, would take a long while for it to drift out of orbit and crash to earth, by that time methods could be in place to try and move it.

Ugh. Why don't people understand this. Fantasy has to follow it's own rules.

You know why Frodo never had a flying monkey crawl out his butt and stab Samwise Gamgiese? Cause that would make no sense. Yet Lord of the Rings have dragons, dragons aren't real either... Yet we accept dragons,  we would not accept assassin butt monkeys.

[Kanon777]

Larabolee77 is right, its clearly concrete, and has the same blue-gray color palete as the stones in London during the final mission...

[CELL55]

SPECULATIONS, SPECULATIONS EVERYWHERE

The fact that there is even argument on this matter is further proof (if any more was even needed) that the ending was poorly written and not well thought out.

[Kanon777]

But they said they wanted people to speculate, so they DID suceed...kinda.

[majinbuu1307]

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

[IS1296]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

he survived because he had medical care, shepard didn't.

[majinbuu1307]

TheCrazyHobo wrote...

If you watch the red ending, you see that the MAIN explosion happens on the presidium on the citadel tower. Shep is standing on the bottom Citadel Tower, right where the Crucible connects with Citadel, this means when the explosion happens, Shep is toast. There is no way you can even say Shep survived the "mega lazor" or the following explosion, sorry. No re-entry is possible when you cease to exist.

The rubble scene is definitely on Earth. Last few times I was on the Citadel, I never saw concrete, only high-tech metal plating. Remember ME1 when Saren attacked?? Yup, no concrete there. Or how about when Cerberus attacked the Citadel, did you see any concrete then?? The answer is no. Rebar is used to reinforce concrete and it makes no sense for it to be anywhere else but Earth.

Have a nice day.

Except Shep is alive, and we dont see thar piece blow to bits, just a explosion, its clearly still there when the flash goes away. More likely than surviving reentry and landing on the ground in the exact spot by the citadel beam. he would fall somewhere maybe in the ocean even if he did. No. Plus you know, the file is called SHEPALIVE

[majinbuu1307]

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

he survived because he had medical care, shepard didn't.

and who is to say he can't get medical care, Bioware has said that plenty of people on the citadel could be still alive. 

[FatalX7.0]

IS1296 wrote...

FatalX7.0 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

He's Shepard.

SHEPARD. No explanation needed.

if "he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard", then there wouldn't be the need for squadmates or weapons, becasue by that logic shepard could just do anything without worrying about bleeding to death.

I'll actually be serious here for a second.

I kill everything without my squad.

[Kanon777]

lol @ people trying to use "logic" to deny that shep is alive. You are aware that Bioware ignored the fact that Shepard's entire body should be burned after the fall in the begining of ME2?

They will just explain it away like they did with the reapers shield being disabled in ME3, or how they explained away the deaths on the citadel, or how they will explain away the death of EDI in destroy, or the "galatic dark age" and the "new FTL" etc etc...

Modifié par Kanon777, 11 avril 2012 - 02:29 .

[majinbuu1307]

Kanon777 wrote...

lol @ people trying to use "logic" to deny that shep is alive. You are aware that Bioware ignored the fact that Shepard's entire body should be burned after the fall in the begining of ME2?

They will just explain it away like they did with the reapers shield being disabled in ME3, or how they explained away the deaths on the citadel, or how they will explain away the death of EDI in destroy, or the "galatic dark age" and the "new FTL" etc etc...

Yup:) to hell with logic, shep is alive, will reunite with ash:) oh and the geth live, cuz stuff.

Im actually fine with that lol

[balance5050]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

he survived because he had medical care, shepard didn't.

and who is to say he can't get medical care, Bioware has said that plenty of people on the citadel could be still alive. 

The problem is that there was no where for Shep to seek shelter. The final platform is just hanging in space and the biotic shield wouldn't work there anyway because it's the part of the Citadel that we clearly see go boom. People could survive on the Citadel, but not where Shepard was standing.

[SovereignX6]

Making sense actually.

[leimana]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

Kanon777 wrote...

lol @ people trying to use "logic" to deny that shep is alive. You are aware that Bioware ignored the fact that Shepard's entire body should be burned after the fall in the begining of ME2?

They will just explain it away like they did with the reapers shield being disabled in ME3, or how they explained away the deaths on the citadel, or how they will explain away the death of EDI in destroy, or the "galatic dark age" and the "new FTL" etc etc...

Yup:) to hell with logic, shep is alive, will reunite with ash:) oh and the geth live, cuz stuff.

Im actually fine with that lol

Me 2 with all of that but sub Kaidan for Ash :kissing:

[majinbuu1307]

balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

he survived because he had medical care, shepard didn't.

and who is to say he can't get medical care, Bioware has said that plenty of people on the citadel could be still alive. 

The problem is that there was no where for Shep to seek shelter. The final platform is just hanging in space and the biotic shield wouldn't work there anyway because it's the part of the Citadel that we clearly see go boom. People could survive on the Citadel, but not where Shepard was standing.

Yet either way you wanna believe it, you either believe that he survived that explosion somehow, OR he survived not ONLY that explosion, but reentry and incineration and plummeting to earth. I choose hes on the citadel.

[majinbuu1307]

SovereignX6 wrote...

Making sense actually.

Thank you:)

[IS1296]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

he survived because he had medical care, shepard didn't.

and who is to say he can't get medical care, Bioware has said that plenty of people on the citadel could be still alive. 

you're saying that (from the bold statement above) sheaprd can't bleed out, implying that he has an infinite supply of blood. therefore, he wouldn't need medical care. he can receive medical care, but going by your logic, shepard wouldn't ever need it when involving blood loss.

[majinbuu1307]

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

IS1296 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

legion999 wrote...

Concrete. There is none on the Citadel. And when did Shepard end up in these sealed off areas? And why didn't he bleed out? Also wouldn't kilometre sized debris falling into Earth destroy large areas of it? Wait if the Citadels a mass relay does that mean Earth will be covered in Element Zero?

And no blue tint doesn't mean anything. He could have landed in thousands of different locations.

They didn't say it fell to earth. Could be floating up there in orbit like a disabled Internation space station. Eventually falling but probably has time.

Also he didn't bleed out cuz he's shepard.

if you're serious about this argument then don't make such stupid comments.

Garrus survived rocket to face cuz he's garrus. nuff said.

he survived because he had medical care, shepard didn't.

and who is to say he can't get medical care, Bioware has said that plenty of people on the citadel could be still alive. 

you're saying that (from the bold statement above) sheaprd can't bleed out, implying that he has an infinite supply of blood. therefore, he wouldn't need medical care. he can receive medical care, but going by your logic, shepard wouldn't ever need it when involving blood loss.

Correct:whistle:

[Bill Casey]

The ending uses the same transitions as when Shepard's dreaming...