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[GBGriffin]

Hi guys!

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out:

What if we got a group of professional construction workers to take a look at the video and tell us once and for all if it is concrete rubble and not something else than only resembles rubble?

We could even get London construction workers in particular, and ask them if using concrete a century or so in the future is even practical, on Earth, in London, AND on a space station!!!

If we get expert testimony from people who work with concrete in a professional capacity, I think we can put this debate to rest once and for all!!!!!!

[The Irish Man]

Elite Midget wrote...

No, he dies. His skin was fried with worse than 3rd degree burns and he was bleeding out. Without immediate and intense medical aid he's going to die a very slow and painful death.

You think BioWare would let Shepard die like that? Hell no. Only time will tell if it's London or the Citadel.

[majinbuu1307]

GBGriffin wrote...

Hi guys!

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out:

What if we got a group of professional construction workers to take a look at the video and tell us once and for all if it is concrete rubble and not something else than only resembles rubble?

We could even get London construction workers in particular, and ask them if using concrete a century or so in the future is even practical, on Earth, in London, AND on a space station!!!

If we get expert testimony from people who work with concrete in a professional capacity, I think we can put this debate to rest once and for all!!!!!!

I think the cable from the citadel kinda seals the deal. Nothing like that was around in london.

[frylock23]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

So far my "speculations" are the geth made it since shepard did and the catalyst just couldn't calculate EVERYTHING.

No the Catalyst LIED. It didn't want to die anymore than anyone or anything else does, and it knew that destroy would kill it and the Reapers, so it told Shepard the one thing it could think of that might stop him/her from destroying them - You will commit genocide if you destroy us. You will murder EDI. You might even kill yourself ..."

And look at how many people here fell for that argument.

[Thorn Harvestar]

That cabling is found in lots of places with Reaper tech (derelict reaper in ME2 comes to mind). It's not Citadel specific.

[shepard1038]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

shepard1038 wrote...

I think Shepard survived was because the Citadel has massive mass effect field and kinetic barries.

True, but people could argue those explosions around the citadel and it breaking apart took them out, but, it's all kinda up to what the extended cut will say. It might sound silly, but however they explain it, thats what will happen. They could say shepard rides down on a magical pony, and we just have to accept it lolB)

The Citadel is gigantic why wouldn't a space station produce massive mass effect fields and kinetic barriers that could withstand the impact and explosion of something and if and area is breached it probably seals the area.

Modifié par shepard1038, 11 avril 2012 - 04:10 .

[Evo_9]

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

That cabling is found in lots of places with Reaper tech (derelict reaper in ME2 comes to mind). It's not Citadel specific.

The reapers built citadel so its natural they would use the same cables lol

Did the reapers build london? why would it be there?

If youre suggesting shep wakes up in london, wouldnt you see these cables lying around the place before you get hit by the laser? 

[majinbuu1307]

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

That cabling is found in lots of places with Reaper tech (derelict reaper in ME2 comes to mind). It's not Citadel specific.

But seeing as there isn't exploded reapers everywhere in london(I think only one or two got blown up on the ground(and even then they didn't explode and spray tech everywhere, they just fell), especially near the beam where everyone is saying he is, I think logically the cords we are seeing are the ones he JUST passed by. Most likely got thrown away from the blast, possibly got covered by something that actually saved him, Then stuff shifted around. Who knows atm though.

Modifié par majinbuu1307, 11 avril 2012 - 04:10 .

[shepard1038]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

That cabling is found in lots of places with Reaper tech (derelict reaper in ME2 comes to mind). It's not Citadel specific.

But seeing as there isn't exploded reapers everywhere in london(I think only one or two got blown up on the ground, especially near the beam where everyone is saying he is, I think logically the cords we are seeing are the ones he JUST passed by. Most likely got thrown away from the blast, possibly got covered by something that actually saved him, Then stuff shifted around. Who knows atm though.

Shouldn't we have seen dead bodies too.

[GBGriffin]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Hi guys!

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out:

What if we got a group of professional construction workers to take a look at the video and tell us once and for all if it is concrete rubble and not something else than only resembles rubble?

We could even get London construction workers in particular, and ask them if using concrete a century or so in the future is even practical, on Earth, in London, AND on a space station!!!

If we get expert testimony from people who work with concrete in a professional capacity, I think we can put this debate to rest once and for all!!!!!!

I think the cable from the citadel kinda seals the deal. Nothing like that was around in london.

But if we got professional consultants, we could prove it beyond a shaow of a doubt!!!!!!!

[majinbuu1307]

shepard1038 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

Thorn Harvestar wrote...

That cabling is found in lots of places with Reaper tech (derelict reaper in ME2 comes to mind). It's not Citadel specific.

But seeing as there isn't exploded reapers everywhere in london(I think only one or two got blown up on the ground, especially near the beam where everyone is saying he is, I think logically the cords we are seeing are the ones he JUST passed by. Most likely got thrown away from the blast, possibly got covered by something that actually saved him, Then stuff shifted around. Who knows atm though.

Shouldn't we have seen dead bodies too.

Too much of a close up perhaps. Couldn't see much past Shepard. Could be laying on them for all we know lol.

[Damien Nightwind]

The fact is that in the ME2 dlc destroying ONE relay totalled a solar system and wiped out a planet. Yet destroying the mother of all relays right over earth and nothing happened? Not to mention the dozens of other relays?

[majinbuu1307]

GBGriffin wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

GBGriffin wrote...

Hi guys!

I know this sounds crazy, but hear me out:

What if we got a group of professional construction workers to take a look at the video and tell us once and for all if it is concrete rubble and not something else than only resembles rubble?

We could even get London construction workers in particular, and ask them if using concrete a century or so in the future is even practical, on Earth, in London, AND on a space station!!!

If we get expert testimony from people who work with concrete in a professional capacity, I think we can put this debate to rest once and for all!!!!!!

I think the cable from the citadel kinda seals the deal. Nothing like that was around in london.

But if we got professional consultants, we could prove it beyond a shaow of a doubt!!!!!!!

If you're paying then ok lol

[majinbuu1307]

Damien Nightwind wrote...

The fact is that in the ME2 dlc destroying ONE relay totalled a solar system and wiped out a planet. Yet destroying the mother of all relays right over earth and nothing happened? Not to mention the dozens of other relays?

They said there was a difference between rupturing and overloading or something like that, Dispersing the energy in a direct beam to the next relay wasn't the same as rupturing a relay without dispersing that energy first, or something like that.

[GBGriffin]

majinbuu1307 wrote...
 If you're paying then ok lol

We could start a drive to fund a consulation hour with some building contractors who could examine the video and answer the following:

a.) Is the rubble concrete?
b.) Would London still use concrete for buildings a century or more in the future?
c.) Would concrete be used in any form on a space station?

If we get answers from true professionals who work with concrete and can be called experts in the field...I'd call that a major victory!!!!

[shepard1038]

Damien Nightwind wrote...

The fact is that in the ME2 dlc destroying ONE relay totalled a solar system and wiped out a planet. Yet destroying the mother of all relays right over earth and nothing happened? Not to mention the dozens of other relays?

A scientific explanation. The crucible is the one giving the energy and the citadel is the one transforming the type of energy it takes and the relays are the ones getting that enegy and dispersing it through the galaxy.

Modifié par shepard1038, 11 avril 2012 - 04:17 .

[majinbuu1307]

yesss, dispersing:)

[majinbuu1307]

Who dares vote this down a star? grrr lol

[NoSpin]

http://www.whitecap....bar-standee.jpg

End of discussion

[majinbuu1307]

NoSpin wrote...

http://www.whitecap....bar-standee.jpg

End of discussion

Except it isn't? Ok, listen, in order for SHEPARD TO BE IN LONDON ONE OF THE TWO REDICULOUS THINGS HAVE TO BE TRUE.

1-Shepard was indoctrinated. Incomplete game, reapers still around. No.
2-shepard flew off the citadel survived being incinerated and the 200 or so miles to the ground.

OR. he survived ONE explosion, got thrown back, and had rubble including a cable from that hall with the bodies in it fall around him.

Hmm... logic...

[shepard1038]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

http://www.whitecap....bar-standee.jpg

End of discussion

Except it isn't? Ok, listen, in order for SHEPARD TO BE IN LONDON ONE OF THE TWO REDICULOUS THINGS HAVE TO BE TRUE.

1-Shepard was indoctrinated. Incomplete game, reapers still around. No.
2-shepard flew off the citadel survived being incinerated and the 200 or so miles to the ground.

OR. he survived ONE explosion, got thrown back, and had rubble including a cable from that hall with the bodies in it fall around him.

Hmm... logic...

Yikes... all those bodies falling around him.

[Iconoclaste]

In the Mass Effect Wiki, the Citadel is made of an unknown "resilient material". From the "Shep_Alive" video, we see porous material, but not steel armature, which would be normal for thick concrete slabs. But because we did not see steel, or because the material looks porous, or even because we see a cable of a type previously seen on the Citadel, we still cannot rule out any option. If Shepard fell unconscious after being hit by the red laser, that does not mean the rest of the troops were waiting for him to wake up, playing cards in the bunkers.

I'm trying to capture the corvette / car hood thing to show here. It does not look like part of the structure Shepard shot, it's more stylish than just a blown tube.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 11 avril 2012 - 05:51 .

[majinbuu1307]

shepard1038 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

http://www.whitecap....bar-standee.jpg

End of discussion

Except it isn't? Ok, listen, in order for SHEPARD TO BE IN LONDON ONE OF THE TWO REDICULOUS THINGS HAVE TO BE TRUE.

1-Shepard was indoctrinated. Incomplete game, reapers still around. No.
2-shepard flew off the citadel survived being incinerated and the 200 or so miles to the ground.

OR. he survived ONE explosion, got thrown back, and had rubble including a cable from that hall with the bodies in it fall around him.

Hmm... logic...

Yikes... all those bodies falling around him.

Wish the camera was panned out just by a few feet so these arguments would be not needed lol.

[NoSpin]

majinbuu1307 wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

http://www.whitecap....bar-standee.jpg

End of discussion

Except it isn't? Ok, listen, in order for SHEPARD TO BE IN LONDON ONE OF THE TWO REDICULOUS THINGS HAVE TO BE TRUE.

1-Shepard was indoctrinated. Incomplete game, reapers still around. No.
2-shepard flew off the citadel survived being incinerated and the 200 or so miles to the ground.

OR. he survived ONE explosion, got thrown back, and had rubble including a cable from that hall with the bodies in it fall around him.

Hmm... logic...

Nobody knows what Bioware is thinking. Could he be in the Citadel? Absolutely. But looking around and seeing concrete and rebar, it kinda looks like London. I don't know. You don't know.

To just dismiss Indoctrination like that is a very closed minded way to look at this. Could Bioware have shipped an incomplete game and the true ending (or ME4) will come? Absolutely. We will find out in a couple months. But there is just as much evidence for Indoctrination/London as there is for Reality/Citadel.

[majinbuu1307]

NoSpin wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

NoSpin wrote...

http://www.whitecap....bar-standee.jpg

End of discussion

Except it isn't? Ok, listen, in order for SHEPARD TO BE IN LONDON ONE OF THE TWO REDICULOUS THINGS HAVE TO BE TRUE.

1-Shepard was indoctrinated. Incomplete game, reapers still around. No.
2-shepard flew off the citadel survived being incinerated and the 200 or so miles to the ground.

OR. he survived ONE explosion, got thrown back, and had rubble including a cable from that hall with the bodies in it fall around him.

Hmm... logic...

Nobody knows what Bioware is thinking. Could he be in the Citadel? Absolutely. But looking around and seeing concrete and rebar, it kinda looks like London. I don't know. You don't know.

To just dismiss Indoctrination like that is a very closed minded way to look at this. Could Bioware have shipped an incomplete game and the true ending (or ME4) will come? Absolutely. We will find out in a couple months. But there is just as much evidence for Indoctrination/London as there is for Reality/Citadel.

They stated that any further games would either be during the mass effect series or before if I'm correct?
Plus, they stated they where surprised and did not expect this backlash. Meaning they meant that as the finished game and they had said before that this IS the end. You can't have the end with the reapers still reaping and nothing got resolved.