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 You can see the exact same cables people are using as 'evidence' on the geth dreadnought. I'm not for or against IT, but using that as evidence that he is still on the citadel or not is moot. It could be any old power cable that the entire galaxy may use. It's all speculation.

In regards to the citadel falling onto Earth. If you understand anything about orbits, you know that the citadel was probably in geostationary orbit right above London, in much the same way we have geostationary weather satellites now. Just because things get blown off the citadel in the endings doesn't mean they just drop to Earth <_<

Modifié par tilusN7, 11 avril 2012 - 06:17 .


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Big UPS for the pictures above me:) thanks guys

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Kanon777 wrote...

I believe its one of the makos that where around the conduit. My understanding is that Shep managed to go back to earth trough the conduit that he used to get in the citadel.


Just to be fair, that could work, too.

It would require Shepard to be somewhat conscious after the blast, but using the blue beam to go back to Earth IS better than surviving reentry.

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Looks more like this concrete to me...<_<

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Double post

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SnakesSon wrote...

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 Indoctrination theorists make me want to hit my head with a hammer.:o:O:O:O:O:O:O


The current endings make me want to hit my head with a hammer.

Maybe then I'd understand them and the artistic integrity behind it.
(Also,at least try to disprove my statements man, you're hurting my feelings.)

So very tired of doing that...must bash head with hammer.

The current ending is the one they say is correct, and they said it was a closure. Leaving the ending "he wakes up, reapers still right in his face" isn't closure, the more logical, and correct answer, is that all actually happened.

Why show the crucible activating if he didn't make it up there? Why dream that? Is he gonna wake up and then do it all over again? Kinda redunant also.

There is just so much wrong with it and soooo much of it is from people basically seeing what they want to see. I see a bunny in that cloud, hmm, i see a cloud.

Watch probably the best video made on the Indoctrination Theory.

They've said they won't be changing the ending, which, assuming the indoctrination theory is correct, is technically true.

Also, never thought I would have to say this, but no. The child made of magic who wants to kill all organics so synthetics don't kill them first even though synthetics are not killing organics simply for being organic is not the logical answer. I'm sorry, but it's not.

Also, if the current ending is confirmed to be the real ending, why did they not come out and say the Indoctrination Theory is incorrect? Why did they specifically say they have no comment on it, and want the Extended DLC to speak for itself?

Actually, I'll refute myself on that. Why not just come out and tell us what's going on instead of wasting months of time making an "extended" version. Carry on.


Catalyst is correct in his view, morally wrong to us, but to it our species is just grains of sand in the bucket.

It doesn't just go, we are killing organics so they dont create synthetics that will kill organics. You missed something IMPORTANT. It is (in its line of thinking) saving us by making us reapers to preserve us, and ONLY the advanced races, nothing else. It is afraid, we will create synthetics that will rebel and destroy ALL organic life, not just ADVANCED organic life. TOTAL EXTINCTION. They won't simply destroy Synthetics when they come about, because that leaves the ADVANCED organics to KEEP GETTING MORE ADVANCED and creating MORE advanced synthetics that could possibly and eventually be stronger than the reapers, then they couldn't stop the TOTAL EXTINCTION. Carry on.

They're doing an amazing job preserving humanity by grinding them into paste and razing Earth to the ground.
It's afraid we'll create synthetics that will destroy all organic life, so it "preserves" advanced life. But leaves the same synthetics. That supposedly kill advanced life. To kill the life that will advance.

But when the organics and synthetics make peace, the organics still need to die. Because organics are dumb and squishy.

I'm prettyyyyy sure they would wipe out the synthetics the organics made if the reapers won. Seeing as the organics in Prothean time arent there anymore. Either way the reapers would not let the geth get away if they won.

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majinbuu1307 wrote...

 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him.


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Looks pretty darn blue to me...
 
    

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Looks more like this concrete to me...<_<

That's more like it, yes. The image I showed above had some different material on the "outside" than the material "inside", metallic or else. I did not see those metal RODS in the Shep_Alive animation.

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balance5050 wrote...

* picture snip*

Looks more like this concrete to me...<_<


I'm off to explore the beam area to compare concrete textures...
Just remember - we're doing it... FOR SCIENCE!:D

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moater boat wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him.


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Looks pretty darn blue to me...
 
    




so shepard fallsfrom outerspace onto earth and he survives? really what the f*** is he god now

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I think the problem does not come from the "texture" they used, but maybe from the tex mapping on an irregular surface, that caused warps in the original texture image.

Modifié par Iconoclaste, 11 avril 2012 - 06:27 .


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moater boat wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him.


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Looks pretty darn blue to me...
 
    



Just replayed that, in the video it is nowhere near that blue. picture must be lightened up by shop to see shep clearly

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Iconoclaste wrote...

I think the problem does not come from the "texture" they used, but maybe from the tex mapping on an irregular surface, that caused warps in the original texture image.

Yeah ive seen some things meant to be smooth but looked like crap til it loaded later.

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balance5050 wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

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 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him. We don't see sky, or anything like that. I believe its the rubble from explosion he made when he shot up the...whatever the hell he was shooting at. Addition information-If you look at the picture at the bottom of this post, you will see the same cable from the citadel near shepard when he takes a breath.





The bottom picture depicts Shepard's body bathed in a blue light.


Hmm, I wonder where the blue light is coming from? Couldn't possibly be the same blue light that Shep and Co. were running straight for before Harbingers beam knocked him out.

No, it is coming from the conduit, In London,

Or you know, lights from either the citadel or something else. Or just simply the lighting chosen for that clip. More logical than what indoctrination theory or falling to earth theory suggests.


It's funny watching you struggle. How did Shepard get into an enclosed area? He was surrounded by nothing but open space at the end. The destroy endings destroy the relays and Reaper tech, the citadel is both of these, and both were supposably destroyed. The emergency lighing has traditionally been red, thats how it was in ME1. I.T. makes way more sense, that's why it's 1400 pages long.


One thing I will say. Upon reviewing the actual scene, I find that there is a complete lack of blue lighting. Therefore, my original statement is incorrect.

However, the post-elevator scene had Earth in the background, causing the entire scene to be brightly lit. The breathing scene is poorly lit. Objects like the cable/ rebar aren't shown in great detail. It is also difficult to discern whether the rubble is a metal/ proteic composite, or what ever the Keepers use, or concrete/ marble. It should be noted that Shepard runs over concrete/ cobble stones during the "beam run" sequence. Whether the laser that hits Shepard is landing near an area containing concrete is debatable.

Due to the ambiguous nature of the evidence available, it is unreasonable for the OP to off-handedly dismiss the idea of IT. There just isn't enough information available to make a solid conclusion. Lots of speculation.

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iSpider-Man wrote...

moater boat wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him.


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Looks pretty darn blue to me...
 
    




so shepard fallsfrom outerspace onto earth and he survives? really what the f*** is he god now


Yes that's exactly what I said <_<

Or I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to show someone contradicting themselves.

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As for the "blue" color, in "Shep_Alive", it's mostly black and white. I lighted up the image to see more details, but the blue tint did not come out.

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Iconoclaste wrote...

I think the problem does not come from the "texture" they used, but maybe from the tex mapping on an irregular surface, that caused warps in the original texture image.

As for the "blue" color, in "Shep_Alive", it's mostly black and white. I lighted up the image to see more details, but the blue tint did not come out.


This*

so you guys can stop saying theres a clear blue light illuminating him.

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iSpider-Man wrote...

moater boat wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him.


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Looks pretty darn blue to me...
 
    




so shepard fallsfrom outerspace onto earth and he survives? really what the f*** is he god now

No, he woke up from being unconscious. Which is kind of the crux of the argument. 

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CerealWar wrote...



One thing I will say. Upon reviewing the actual scene, I find that there is a complete lack of blue lighting. Therefore, my original statement is incorrect.

However, the post-elevator scene had Earth in the background, causing the entire scene to be brightly lit. The breathing scene is poorly lit. Objects like the cable/ rebar aren't shown in great detail. It is also difficult to discern whether the rubble is a metal/ proteic composite, or what ever the Keepers use, or concrete/ marble. It should be noted that Shepard runs over concrete/ cobble stones during the "beam run" sequence. Whether the laser that hits Shepard is landing near an area containing concrete is debatable.

Due to the ambiguous nature of the evidence available, it is unreasonable for the OP to off-handedly dismiss the idea of IT. There just isn't enough information available to make a solid conclusion. Lots of speculation.




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I'm really looking forward to the extended DLC, it's gonna be interesting to see what the real answer is because I'm just not convinced either way.

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moater boat wrote...
Yes that's exactly what I said <_<

Or I just couldn't pass up an opportunity to show someone contradicting themselves.

im sorry if i sounded rude but im serious though i see the pic i can agree with the fact that it can be the cidale but how the hell does he survive the fall...dont say speculations

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In the "Run for the Beam" scene, the rubble around is anything weird but concrete, in fact. Some even saw face textures, and lots of stuff.

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SnakesSon wrote...

iSpider-Man wrote...

moater boat wrote...

majinbuu1307 wrote...

 Consider this, the beam to the Citadel illuminated everything with a blue glow. There was no such glow when we see him.


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Looks pretty darn blue to me...
 
    




so shepard fallsfrom outerspace onto earth and he survives? really what the f*** is he god now

No, he woke up from being unconscious. Which is kind of the crux of the argument. 


lol

the point of the pic is to show that the same cables from the citadel appear in shepards last breath. Just because the room is red doesnt mean the cables dont appear in other areas of the citadel. (which is proven by the free roam video on youtube)

It proves that shepard is lying in ruins from the citadel as opposed to london rubble, hene the indoctrination theory is a steaming load of crap

Modifié par Evo_9, 11 avril 2012 - 06:33 .


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Iconoclaste wrote...

In the "Run for the Beam" scene, the rubble around is anything weird but concrete, in fact. Some even saw face textures, and lots of stuff.

I saw what appeared to be red/blue fuzzy blocks, too low res.