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[Sipau Fade]

 Clarification is needed because I guess I wasn't EXACTLY clear on what I said. Even if I thought I was. I guess this is what bioware feels like when they post. People pick apart every little thing you say and don't read what you actually said. 

Congrats bioware. It's nice to see an actual number (this is the first ESTIMATE. I've seen that is attempting any sense of actuality, some say it could be more, I've heard 2.8 mil on Forbes). It's also nice to finally be able to say that the retake moment is a vocal minority.  I'll be really generous and say you have 100,000 followers. Thats a little more than half of a percent that didn't like the ending enough to "do something about it". (I thought this was pretty clear but I guess not, I said that the retake movement was upset enough to do something to try to change the ending. I didn't say the other 92.33% totally loved the game. I guess I was implying that the other 92.33% were normal. Yeah that was a jab at you guys:)

Oh and by the way 100k is .0666% of 1.5 mil. Is it sign? From the behavior I've see around these parts I'd have to agree. (I'm leaving the error in the math because that was funny. Can't take yourself so seriously. Some of you could learn that lesson)

Oh yeah, I also got this info from ign....do double suck it haha. Much love, but not really. 

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Modifié par Sipau Fade, 11 avril 2012 - 03:02 .

[CCTwiggett]

Probably should understand percentages if you are going to use them to justify your speculative position. By your numbers it is 6.66%, not .0666%.

[AJRimmsey]

100k is 10% of 1 million

100k x 10 = 1,000,000

meaning its about 14%

60k is a better estimate of the end haters

so its about 7% are not happy


it all depends on how many returned the game

because what matters is the money taken in.

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 11 avril 2012 - 02:16 .

[Volus Warlord]

Eh, factor of 100. It's not a big deal.

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Sipau Fade wrote...

 Congrats bioware. It's nice to see an actual number. It's also nice to finally be able to say that the retake moment is a vocal minority.  I'll be really generous and say you have 100,000 followers. Thats a little more than half of a percent that didn't like the ending enough to "do something about it". 

Oh and by the way 100k is .0666% of 1.5 mil. Is it sign? From the behavior I've see around these parts I'd have to agree. 

Oh yeah, I also got this info from ign....do double suck it haha. Much love, but not really. 

1/15 = 0.0666%? 

Better check those stats, genius.

[shepskisaac]

Sipau Fade wrote...

It's nice to see an actual number.

Except it's not. It's just a prediction from some analisyst: www.gamespot.com/news/mass-effect-3-sold-15m-in-march-projects-analyst-6370946 A very bad prediction at that considering it sold 900k just in 24 hours just in US

Modifié par IsaacShep, 11 avril 2012 - 02:20 .

[ObserverStatus]

nice troll math

[AlexMBrennan]

You're quite right, the people calling for changes are a vocal minority. That shouldn't surprise anyone, and I doubt that there is anyone disputing it.

[The vast majority of people unhappy with the game will just move on since a) software refunds are notoriously difficult to get any changes will take months to implement, if they are implemented at all and c) they probably spend more on coffee in a month than they spent on ME3. The vast majority of unhappy customers will just leave]

"Biblioteca Nacional de Portugal was established on 29 February, 1796" is equally true and equally relevant to the discussion at hand.

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 11 avril 2012 - 02:23 .

[RedArmyShogun]

Pft Numbers? Numbers, why you know what numbers are good for? Nothing. Why back when we were trying to go to the moon only 53% of Americans supported it, when they went, only 52% thought it was somethign special. See back then governments didn't listen to silly things like "will of the people"

See EA is doing the same. Mark my words people ten years from now EA is going to Mars. Or having the national guard shoot hippies on the lawn of a protest site. Either way is a win win.

This is progress, and thats where the money's at. And maybe assassinations...but we don't talk about that do we Mr Hoover?

Modifié par Confess-A-Bear, 11 avril 2012 - 02:22 .

[kbct]

OP, your post needs more win and less fail.

[javierabegazo]

lol. I'm happy *MOST* of our community understands basic math.

[shepskisaac]

javierabegazo wrote...

lol. I'm happy *MOST* of our community understands basic math.

You're not a mod anymore? 

[Doctoglethorpe]

I will never understand how people can so arrogantly make such claims while they don't understand population sampling in the slightest.

Just because only a fraction of people are vocally part of the retake movement and on these forums and junk doesn't mean that that fraction of the player base makes up the entirety of the percentage of players unhappy about the ending. Thats not how sampling works. At all. In fact its the complete opposite. You sample the percentage of the entire vocal minority of the fanbase, weather they're satisfied or not, and you'll see a very solid majority of them being in the unhappy camp. Via population sampling we can safely assume with statistical probability that the overall player base shares approximately the same percentage difference.

[ohias]

so its about 7% are not happy.

It doesn't work like that.

Because in turn I can say:
only 10% on these forums are saying they are happy with the game.
out of say 100000 it's 10k

So only 0.66% are happy with the game.
See what I did there.

[javierabegazo]

IsaacShep wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

lol. I'm happy *MOST* of our community understands basic math.

You're not a mod anymore? 

Nope, I was too forward and outspoken, and crossed the new "site rules of conduct".   After all is said and done, I can't muster up enough feeling to be really disappointed

Modifié par javierabegazo, 11 avril 2012 - 02:30 .

[ChildOfEden]

http://www.dianuke.o...2011/09/1-1.jpg

60,000 people.

[ZackG312]

Doctor Moustache wrote...

I will never understand how people can so arrogantly make such claims while they don't understand population sampling in the slightest.

Just because only a fraction of people are vocally part of the retake movement and on these forums and junk doesn't mean that that fraction of the player base makes up the entirety of the percentage of players unhappy about the ending. Thats not how sampling works. At all. In fact its the complete opposite. You sample the percentage of the entire vocal minority of the fanbase, weather they're satisfied or not, and you'll see a very solid majority of them being in the unhappy camp. Via population sampling we can safely assume with statistical probability that the overall player base shares approximately the same percentage difference.

have to agree with you

[ChildOfEden]

ChildOfEden wrote...



60,000 people at Tokyo.

Modifié par ChildOfEden, 11 avril 2012 - 02:33 .

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Those who dislike the ending actually played the game first...

...thought you'd want to know that.

[ticklefist]

double post

Modifié par ticklefist, 11 avril 2012 - 02:35 .

[LegendaryBlade]

OP: How do I in to extrapolated data?

[ticklefist]

Play the game or stop pirating.

[Alpha-Centuri]

javierabegazo wrote...

IsaacShep wrote...

javierabegazo wrote...

lol. I'm happy *MOST* of our community understands basic math.

You're not a mod anymore? 

Nope, I was too forward and outspoken,
and crossed the new "site rules of conduct".   After all is said and
done, I can't muster up enough feeling to be really disappointed

Wow that sux javier. Its weird, cause I lurk on several game boards, mostly The Witcher's forum and the mods are free to disagree and critique, as long as they keep the peace and don't go ad hominem. I've seen the female mod Corylea get on a soapbox about the depiction of women and everything.

Too bad its not as free here on BSN :/

Modifié par Alpha-Centuri, 11 avril 2012 - 02:35 .

[ChildOfEden]

30,000 people in a Union Rally.

Now all you got to do is multiple this by two.

Modifié par ChildOfEden, 11 avril 2012 - 02:36 .

[Sipau Fade]

Good correction on that math. Didn't carry the zeros. So instead of half a percent it's 6.666%. You guys are still the devil and still a minority.