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[ChildOfEden]

Sipau Fade wrote...

Good correction on that math. Didn't carry the zeros. So instead of half a percent it's 6.666%. You guys are still the devil and still a minority.

You call this a minority?

[Tuthsok]

Also of note: according to http://www.vgchartz.com current global total sales of ME3 on all platforms (PC, XBOX, PS3) totals closer to 3.4 million as of the week ending march 31st.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Sipau Fade wrote...

Good correction on that math. Didn't carry the zeros. So instead of half a percent it's 6.666%. You guys are still the devil and still a minority.

Incorrect, those who were polled were a minority of the larger masses.

But of those polled, those that thought the ending was horrible are in the vast majority.

[Sipau Fade]

It's unfortunate my small troll attempt gets more hits in the few minutes I was away than legit questions and attempts for discussion. I guess I'm just bitter about how no one can say anything on these forums without some yo-ho screaming plot holes or doing the space magic emoticon.

I guess I just want this to be all over and for the next disappointing game to come out so this forum can get back to the way it used to be....oh wait people were always ding-bats on here.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Tuthsok wrote...

Also of note: according to http://www.vgchartz.com current global total sales of ME3 on all platforms (PC, XBOX, PS3) totals closer to 3.4 million as of the week ending march 31st.

I've said for the longest that ME3 is not going to be the title that gets most affected by this..  ME3 will sell well.

Modifié par Mr. Gogeta34, 11 avril 2012 - 02:41 .

[Mr. MannlyMan]

Sipau Fade wrote...

Good correction on that math. Didn't carry the zeros. So instead of half a percent it's 6.666%. You guys are still the devil and still a minority.

You still don't understand how sampling works, though. Congrats?

[Ryven]

Because, clearly, Bioware would shift priorities to ending clarification for the minority.

[Sipau Fade]

I was being generous with the 100k. I think the retake movement even had less than
That. I was just trying to be nice or make you guys da devil. (6.66%)

[slimgrin]

Sipau Fade wrote...

 Congrats bioware. It's nice to see an actual number. It's also nice to finally be able to say that the retake moment is a vocal minority.  I'll be really generous and say you have 100,000 followers. Thats a little more than half of a percent that didn't like the ending enough to "do something about it". 

Oh and by the way 100k is .0666% of 1.5 mil. Is it sign? From the behavior I've see around these parts I'd have to agree. 

Oh yeah, I also got this info from ign....do double suck it haha. Much love, but not really. 

https://encrypted-tb...v8KAPpEfORJMDk5

[heraymo]

i wonder if they accounted for all the returns lol

[javierabegazo]

They do a LOT of things right at CDProjeckt Red.

[Sipau Fade]

I know how sampling works. But using this forum, polls or the internet is a biased way of accumulating a sample too. To get a real sample you need to broaden the sampling pool. Angry people on a video game forum that have shown a 5 year history of extreme critisism is not a accurate sample of a population.

This is the worst place to do any type of poll.

[AlexMBrennan]

Yes. You are right. The mob with torches and pitchforks is a small minority. That's not the point. It's your conclusion - that everybody else is happy with the game - is what's false.

I know how sampling works.

That's debatable

But using this forum, polls or the internet is a biased way of accumulating a sample too

OK, having established that you cannot possibly come up with a reasonable estimate without EA's resources (e.g. send surveys to randomly selected Origin accounts with ME3 installed), why do you continue to argue?

Modifié par AlexMBrennan, 11 avril 2012 - 02:48 .

[ZackG312]

OP how many people bought the game, how many people on this board own the game, not all owners of Mass Effect 3 are on this board, yet in most polls (on other sites too) I see the number of people who DONT like the ending is far greater than the number of people who DO like the ending.

and remember not all people have joined the Retake group, I havent but i do think think the ending is terrible.

[EHondaMashButton]

Half the people don't finish the game. It was the same for ME1.

So more like 13% if completion rate is similar to ME1 & 2

Modifié par EHondaMashButton, 11 avril 2012 - 02:47 .

[alex13abc]

When you grow up, you'l learn that out of 6 disappointed customers, only 1 speaks up. The other 5 don't bother and simply stop buying from the faulty brand.m

[kbct]

Tuthsok wrote...

Also of note: according to http://www.vgchartz.com current global total sales of ME3 on all platforms (PC, XBOX, PS3) totals closer to 3.4 million as of the week ending march 31st.

To be clear, those are estimated numbers. OP might be shocked to learn they're based on *gasp* samples.

Only EA has actual sales numbers.

[Malanek]

I'm not sure whether the arithmetic or quantitative analysis is worse in the OP.

[Sipau Fade]

Also, any way you look at it 1.5 or 3.5 mil sold or 60k to even 200k people who didn't like the ending enough to want it changed is pretty much par for course with successful businesses. 5-10% people who don't like a good/great product is pretty normal. If you take a step back from the whole situation there is nothing special or groundbreaking about this whole retake movement. It just seems so big because its something we all care about

[Sipau Fade]

Didn't the subject title say "me3 sells an ESTIMATED 1.5 mil?" geez I thought you guys just picked apart biowares statements. Seems you pull this junk with anyone who doesn't agree with the ending sucks idea

[kbct]

heraymo wrote...

i wonder if they accounted for all the returns lol

Yeah, we don't know how many units need to be sold to breakeven or the profit margin on each unit either.

[Sipau Fade]

Zack, you bring up such a good point. I'm sure a lot of people on other sites don't like the ending or game either but the internet is such a poor way to conduct a poll or survey. The type of people who visit a forum are going to have more extreme views than an average consumer. It's a biased sample to look at the internet. Too many confounding variables.

[izmirtheastarach]

Sipau Fade wrote...

Also, any way you look at it 1.5 or 3.5 mil sold or 60k to even 200k people who didn't like the ending enough to want it changed is pretty much par for course with successful businesses. 5-10% people who don't like a good/great product is pretty normal. If you take a step back from the whole situation there is nothing special or groundbreaking about this whole retake movement. It just seems so big because its something we all care about

That's a real fine straw man you've got their, chief. Who exactly are these people who were making claims of breaking ground?

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 11 avril 2012 - 02:54 .

[Icinix]

lol

You can't use the total sales number minus the people anti-ending as positive ending. They fact is they're unknown, the vast majority of gamers out there aren't on forums. They can't be used as a plus or negative in any situation. The only statistic they can be truthfully used as is they bought the game.

[izmirtheastarach]

Icinix wrote...

lol

You can't use the total sales number minus the people anti-ending as positive ending. They fact is they're unknown, the vast majority of gamers out there aren't on forums. They can't be used as a plus or negative in any situation. The only statistic they can be truthfully used as is they bought the game.

As has been pointed out, Bioware has the statistics. They know how many people finished the game. They know how many started a second playthrough. The fact that they've commited to doing anything at all in response to Retake means that they believe the affected player base is large enough to justify the investment of dev time and money.

They're not likely to share those statistics publicly, but the data is there.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 11 avril 2012 - 03:00 .