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[DarkKindness]

I've spent the day/evening playing with the Proximity Mine build, and can vouch that it packs a serious punch. Taking down Ravagers and Brutes that quickly is a lot of fun =) A lot of its damage potential is wasted on Silver, but it really shines on Gold, and the survivability hit isn't as bad as I'd thought it would be. Almost every time I've gone down has been either a totally unavoidable swarm due to... interesting... public team 'tactics' or a really dumb mistake on my own part. I'm half inclined to just go all the way and try 6/6/6/6/0, but I'm still hanging on to that little shred of survivability for now, since I don't have a routine team to play with and anything helps in Publics.

That said, I wound up soloing at least half of waves 7, 8, and 10 on different occasions today, and it went fine. Easy enough if you don't have any teammates up and can train the enemies around the map into Proximity Mine/Tactical Cloak ambushes. This setup still has some problems with shielded and armored heavy enemies (Primes, Atlases), as it takes a while to burn through their defenses regardless of the damage output you've got, but it's a very capable build.

[Chrome tater tot]

Why wouldn't you use the javelin? Do they not receive sniper boosts from tac. cloak?

[DarkKindness]

Chrome tater tot wrote...

Why wouldn't you use the javelin? Do they not receive sniper boosts from tac. cloak?

The only TC damage bonus that's Sniper Rifle exclusive is the rank 6 evolution.  A lot of the other Geth Infiltrator abilities seem geared toward a mobile, close-range combat style that favors shotguns - the short range on Hunter Mode's enhanced vision, the movement speed boost, and so on are things that give a lot more benefit to a shotgun than to a Sniper Rifle.

Don't get me wrong, I think that the Geth Infiltrator Sniper build is perfectly viable, particularly with the Javelin to punch through as much intervening crap as possible, but I think that the Salarian Infiltrator still beats the GI at sniping, while the GI has the edge in running with a shotgun.

Modifié par DarkKindness, 12 avril 2012 - 07:07 .

[FreddyFoxtrot]

honestly i would do if i had a javelin

edit: actually would be nice to be able to place 2 headshots in sequence through a wall, u can just deshield a target with a javelin, then he most likely move somewhere else and u have to (i suppose) scope again and lokk for him. with a BW and permanent HM vision, i think u could actually take down shielded enemies in a matter of seconds... only problem is, i guess BW has a lower penetration distance than regular widow and jav, right?

Modifié par FreddyFoxtrot, 12 avril 2012 - 07:12 .

[Crimzoneyed]

SIgh were is he! the infiltrator of my dreams! xD

another three packs without him :/

[DarkKindness]

Crimzoneyed wrote...

SIgh were is he! the infiltrator of my dreams! xD

another three packs without him :/

Bummer =(  I'm starting to feel the same way about the Geth Engineer, which I also really want to try out and is the only one of the new classes that I haven't managed to pull.

[Elecbender]

DarkKindness wrote...

Crimzoneyed wrote...

SIgh were is he! the infiltrator of my dreams! xD

another three packs without him :/

Bummer =(  I'm starting to feel the same way about the Geth Engineer, which I also really want to try out and is the only one of the new classes that I haven't managed to pull.

I've ONLY pulled a Geth Infiltrator.  I keep getting weapons and Drell Vanguards in premium spectre packs.

[heybigmoney]

Im starting to think of taking tac cloak only to 4. Whats the point of the 5th recharge evo if hunter mode already gives you a 20% faster recharge?

[Feneckus]

heybigmoney wrote...

Im starting to think of taking tac cloak only to 4. Whats the point of the 5th recharge evo if hunter mode already gives you a 20% faster recharge?

You need 6 points because of the bonus power perk. Cloak --> Proxy mine --> Shoot 

[Crimzoneyed]

DarkKindness wrote...

Crimzoneyed wrote...

SIgh were is he! the infiltrator of my dreams! xD

another three packs without him :/

Bummer =(  I'm starting to feel the same way about the Geth Engineer, which I also really want to try out and is the only one of the new classes that I haven't managed to pull.

I have: Geth plasma smg VII, Harpoon sniper IV, Striker assault riffle III and some other stuff.
Also got Geth engineer and both the batarians :/

Still I don't got the GI which I have wanted ever since the demo

[heybigmoney]

Feneckus wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

Im starting to think of taking tac cloak only to 4. Whats the point of the 5th recharge evo if hunter mode already gives you a 20% faster recharge?

You need 6 points because of the bonus power perk. Cloak --> Proxy mine --> Shoot 

You can cloak AND proxy AND shoot all with the cloak damage boost without the 6th tier evo.  

[Feneckus]

heybigmoney wrote...

You can cloak AND proxy AND shoot all with the cloak damage boost without the 6th tier evo.  

But then you need to rush your shot. With bonus power, you can shoot a mine and take your time to make sure you get a nice clean headshot.

[X-Frame]

I am going to ReSpec mine for 6/6/6/6/0 for Gold.

While you certainly may die more often, the amount of damage you and your team could inflict seems to outweigh an extra death or two.

[Bioticgodx]

heybigmoney wrote...

Im starting to think of taking tac cloak only to 4. Whats the point of the 5th recharge evo if hunter mode already gives you a 20% faster recharge?

This is what I have been doing. 4/6/6/6/4 works very well on gold.

[heybigmoney]

Feneckus wrote...

heybigmoney wrote...

You can cloak AND proxy AND shoot all with the cloak damage boost without the 6th tier evo.  

But then you need to rush your shot. With bonus power, you can shoot a mine and take your time to make sure you get a nice clean headshot.

Its quite easy to get used to you should give it a try.  Theres no need for headshots anyway with the gps since they don't register.

[XCPTNL]

I tried the Claymore on the GI and it's really awesome as well But while I do love the Claymore it just seems so wrong to not use the GPS. On the other hand there is no decloak bug with the Claymore and you don't have to charge it. I don't like charging at all, most of the times I fire normal shots because I find it annoying to charge, then cloak... holding down the fire button while running around, maybe press another button for the mine and then finally release the shot. Never been a fan of this.

About the decloak bug, because it came up again on the previous page: it has nothing to do with charging the weapon. Obviously this is another mechanic... you need to charge before you cloak. The decloak bug however also occurs with uncharged shots. If you use a charge weapon and break cloak by shooting (charged or uncharged) and cloak again as soon as your cooldown allows it, then you will decloak instantly.

However there are ways to deal with it:
- It seems to only occur if you are not the host. It seems that this bug doesn't happen if you host the game
- Breaking cloak by using the Proximity Mine (not having the bonus power evolution in cloak rank 6) also helps. The bug only seems to occur if you break cloak by shooting, but if you shoot the mine first then there is no problem. Makes 4/6/6/6/4 and 5/6/6/6/3 builds and other variations of builds that only use 4 or 5 ranks of cloak more useful.
- Waiting some more time after your cooldown is reset from your previous cloak also seems to help. I don't know how long you have to wait and I find it very annoying because you usually want to cloak right away again if you use hit and run tactics, especially with the GI being so squishy and all...

On another topic: I'm almost certain that the 50% shield penalty only affects the base shield value because I have been running a 5/3/6/6/6 build with focus on helath/shield and I can take much more damage it seems. I'm not certain but I really think I wouldn't have lasted that long in some situations if the penalty did affect the maxed out shields.

Man... this character is really insane though. So much I want to try and test. Next I will probably be trying the glass cannon build and I also want to try a build with a focus on heavy melee... I'd love to have this char like 3 or 4 times so I can have him specced for different setups at once. Very few characters can give you so much variety in builds and I'm only talking about shotgun builds (although I have to say it would be waste to play this beast with anything else than a shotgun).

Modifié par Korjyan, 13 avril 2012 - 01:20 .

[DarkKindness]

X-Frame wrote...

I am going to ReSpec mine for 6/6/6/6/0 for Gold.

While you certainly may die more often, the amount of damage you and your team could inflict seems to outweigh an extra death or two.

I'm beginning to strongly consider this as well.  The survivability benefits of 3 points in Advanced Hardware are pretty minimal, and the things you could gain from those points elsewhere are pretty significant.

[XCPTNL]

I just respecced to 6/6/6/6/0 and did very well so far. Man you can die quickly, but the trick is not to get shot at in the first place. I feel like a robot ninja, moving so much and so fast and observing enemy movements with my wallhack.

I hosted the games and then the decloak bug doesn't occur so 6 in cloak is acutally useful then. Bummer it does bug when you are not the host. I hope they fix this. So many classes/builds bascially require you to be the host or otherwise they can have problems. And you don't want problems with your chars in gold...

[X-Frame]

What bug?

I have my Rank 6 in Sniper Damage at the moment (haven't ReSpec'ed yet) .. is Bonus Power bugged then? Because I haven't uncloaked and I haven't been host all night.

[Erase]

DarkKindness wrote...

X-Frame wrote...

I am going to ReSpec mine for 6/6/6/6/0 for Gold.

While you certainly may die more often, the amount of damage you and your team could inflict seems to outweigh an extra death or two.

I'm beginning to strongly consider this as well.  The survivability benefits of 3 points in Advanced Hardware are pretty minimal, and the things you could gain from those points elsewhere are pretty significant.

That is the build I've settled on, however I'm much more partial to sniping with this build. I've been practicing with it on silver for now, but I'm going to be taking it into gold soon. So far, I've found that it kind of falls apart on any close range oriented map. 

Overall, 10/10 on the build and the post man! 

[somewherenoplace]

I've never seen the proximity mines do too much damage. I just got a respec card and I'm currently going with your first basic build. I already had a lvl 20 infiltrator when I got the GI, so I put it into sniping and it just seemed less powerful than the Salarian. I then promoted and built the shotgun build from the ground up. I like it and I'm a very integral part of the team against geth and especially Cerberus.

I had a hard time with Cerberus but that might be because of the proximity mine. I also don't know if I'm skilled enough to survive being a real glass cannon, especially on open maps like hydra, giant, and even condor.

Also I need a better plasma shotgun than rank 1

thanks though, this guide might allow me to go for a more maximized damage build

[somewherenoplace]

Also, this is a personal thing, but I always bring the geth smg with lightweight materials to have a backup plan in case you cant get to the ammo. I don't know if this really helps since it's not a slow firing weapon, but it doesn't feel cumbersome and with the proper ammo can freeze a group for you to get free.

I was curious as to what most people think about having a backup smg

[XCPTNL]

X-Frame wrote...

What bug?

I have my Rank 6 in Sniper Damage at the moment (haven't ReSpec'ed yet) .. is Bonus Power bugged then? Because I haven't uncloaked and I haven't been host all night.

The decloak bug that is mentioned in this thread which occurs when you use a charge weapon. I described some more details in the post above my last (3 posts above yours).

[somewherenoplace]

I've died because of the decloak bug a couple of times and it really pisses me off as I don't expect it. A dead geth is a bad geth

edit: unless they're a heretic 

Modifié par somewherenoplace, 13 avril 2012 - 03:44 .

[Elecbender]

No Claymore?

You could at least make an addendum for it similar to the proximity mine.