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[Nauks]

1. Announce extended cut DLC this summer.

2. Come summer, instead release a post-game DLC centered around Shepard's indoctrination, confirming that this was always the plan, and wrapping up the series in a manner it deserves.

[ognick23]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Lets say I wrote an end that everybody hates, a huge portion of my fans banded together and started charities and cupcake drives and did everything they could to show me they were hurt and upset. The polite ones were respectful, and worked hard to get my attention. The less mature ones flooded me with hate and vitriol.

They would have my attention, I would read their worries and troubles, and I would publicly announce that my team will work on an alternate ending DLC. Since I would likely be proud of my poorly written ending, for whatever reason, it would be left in the game. However the new, alternate ending would have a single playable mission (which would unlock the alternate ending when you turned on the space mcguffin) and a final boss fight.

If they disliked my endings after that, then I failed as a writer.

me personally i think Bioware would have no problem doing that had everyone been respectful but i think the guys who wanted to sue, sent threats etc. were louder in their approach and  made all the people who didnt like the end seem like spoiled rich kids

[ReshyShira]

I would have made sure that the ending was actually peer reviewed.

Casey.

[I Xandra I]

 Just a couple of extra endings, maybe 20 or so... And that when you 'killed' the Reapers, you can play sidequests and other quests that get unlocked after beating the Reapers. And if you made the wrong choices, you have to do the end fight over again, until you beat them. Also, they have to get rid of that weird 'war-point thing' (Don't know the right name, lawl) system, some people just don't like to play multiplayer, singleplayer just mustn't get dependent on multiplayer. Just my opinion/ and maybe that of many others. Or just indoctrination theory and Mass Effect 4

Modifié par I Xandra I, 11 avril 2012 - 04:55 .

[jtrook]

ognick23 wrote...

LegendaryBlade wrote...

Lets say I wrote an end that everybody hates, a huge portion of my fans banded together and started charities and cupcake drives and did everything they could to show me they were hurt and upset. The polite ones were respectful, and worked hard to get my attention. The less mature ones flooded me with hate and vitriol.

They would have my attention, I would read their worries and troubles, and I would publicly announce that my team will work on an alternate ending DLC. Since I would likely be proud of my poorly written ending, for whatever reason, it would be left in the game. However the new, alternate ending would have a single playable mission (which would unlock the alternate ending when you turned on the space mcguffin) and a final boss fight.

If they disliked my endings after that, then I failed as a writer.

me personally i think Bioware would have no problem doing that had everyone been respectful but i think the guys who wanted to sue, sent threats etc. were louder in their approach and  made all the people who didnt like the end seem like spoiled rich kids

It is sad when an actual vocal minority becomes the face of group that tried to display their concern civily.  Maybe when some more civil people finish the game, maybe more civil discussion can continue 

[Calibrategoodtimes]

Replace starchild with G-man and offer shepard a job.

[BeefoTheBold]

Assuming that I'm Bioware...

1. Acknowledge the real problem

Nobody has yet done so. This isn't an issue of people just being disappointed with the endings. (Though that is the case since the writing, retconns and plot holes and gigantic). It's a case of the endings NOT DELIVERING WHAT WAS PROMISED. In other words, we were promised that player choices from ALL THREE GAMES were going to be a MAJOR FACTOR.

Things like whether or not you killed the Rachni Queen in the first game would matter in a significant way.

First step is for Bioware to admit that they did not give out what was promised.

2. Apologize

Bioware has been contemptuous towards their fans. They've treated us like idiots and made sneering, contemptuous remarks. Apologize.

3. Agree to fix the underlying problems

These ends just do not work. They are awful. I know that Bioware has probably spent a lot of money on new DLC and future game content based on the endings. Tough luck.

They need to bite the bullet and fix the issue. No weasely "artistic integrity" bull****. Address the main problem and agree to change how they engage their customers going forward.

[Undead Han]

Assuming the resources were available, I'd swallow my pride and get to work on a new ending. The entire team would be in on it, and the final product would be peer reviewed before being shipped. I'd then bundle the ending in with DLC that opens up Omega or Illium, and charge for it.

[Gibril]

the thing I would have thought to do would be to make some free dlcs, like their doing, and add the endings the customers were looking for. Yes, they may be pretty damn hard to achieve, but that sappy yet happy ending many wanted where shep is sitting with his/her children and the LI would make all the difference. Also, maybe in DA1 style, add that epilogue of "Char x went on to do Y because z" But, they are also doing that. They aren't changing the endings, which I can understand. I'm not happy, but I understand. Hey, if I do that shephard lives ending, I might get lucky and get told in the epilogue "You were indoctrinated, but broke it and killed the reapers, so don't worry, the awesome geth aren't dead" or, on a barely acceptable side " Shep lived, married (LI) and had many pretty kids. The end. Oh, and the geth are dead, you selfish ****." That was the main problem with the end for me, shep could die, I'm fine with that, but to make sure the problem with the reapers doesn't start again, I have to kill the geth, whom I just became buddy buddy with. I mean, I just proved that kid wrong, synthetics can get along with us. Oh well, enough ranting for now.

[SeanBahamut]

jtrook wrote...

I may have to research that. I remember one of the planets in ME2 mentioned a Volus who believed in a starry figure.

Here you go
http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory

Klencory is a rock and ice planet with an atmosphere composed of chlorine and argon.
The frozen surface is mainly composed of potassium with deposits of iron.
Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volusbillionaire Kumun Shol.
He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light."
These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."
Shol has been excavating on Klencory's toxic surface for two decades, at great expense.
No government has valued the world enough to evict his small army of mercenaries.

Modifié par SeanBahamut, 11 avril 2012 - 06:09 .

[jtrook]

SeanBahamut wrote...

jtrook wrote...

I may have to research that. I remember one of the planets in ME2 mentioned a Volus who believed in a starry figure.

Here you go
http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Klencory

Klencory is a rock and ice planet with an atmosphere composed of chlorine and argon.
The frozen surface is mainly composed of potassium with deposits of iron.
Klencory is famously claimed by the eccentric volusbillionaire Kumun Shol.
He claims that a vision of a higher being told him to seek on Klencory the "lost crypts of beings of light."
These entities were supposedly created at the dawn of time to protect organic life from synthetic "machine devils."
Shol has been excavating on Klencory's toxic surface for two decades, at great expense.
No government has valued the world enough to evict his small army of mercenaries.

Dude! Thank you. I've been trying to figure out which one it was. And thank you guys for keeping this civil

[Lamepro]

They can add a Rainbow color ending which would help.

[StElmo]

Nauks wrote...

1. Announce extended cut DLC this summer.

2. Come summer, instead release a post-game DLC centered around Shepard's indoctrination, confirming that this was always the plan, and wrapping up the series in a manner it deserves.

Pretty much this. I wasn't mad at the ending, but after hearing IT, I really think if thats (hopwfully) what bioware are gonna do.

It'd be an amazing bit of trolling and PR if they did do that and I would happily bow to that kind of amazing PR.

[LohnPondai]

1. Make use of the Indoctrination Theory. Even if they didnt plan/think about it, its the only thing that makes sense. Thus... have Shephard (depending on the indoctrination's result) reanimated in London and give us a true ending.

2. Make it free. People paid already for what was suppoused to be a complete game.

Anything less than that i think its undeserving for the fans after the way Bioware has handled the ending fiasco.

[Clayless]

People thinking the IT theory is what they're gonna do are setting themselves up for disappointment.

[Tirigon]

Happy End:

Shepard wakes up in Hospital and asks what happens.

His Friends surround him, greet him and explain he got knocked out by Harbinger, and they thought he was dead, but his LI (or, if you didnt romance anyone, Garrus because he is the Bro of Bros) went back to look for his body and found him.

Shepard tells his experiences, and they say: "Well what a weird dream, anyways, we shot the Reapers back into the Stone Age. Seems they couldnt handle a united galaxy, those sons of b*tches".
Then there are epilogues reflecting your choices, possibly you get to make some as well, such as where Shep will spend the rest of his life etc...


Bad End:

Cutscene that shows how the Reaper overrun the Fleet and harvest world after world.
Epilogue that explains how the Cycle continues.

[JasonDaPsycho]

I would have announced an ending clarification once the outcry started. I know it's not really what OP has asked for but that's what I would have done. A lot of people were just pissed with how ambiguous and vague the endings are, but not necessarily the direction of the endings. Had I addressed them swiftly, the Retake movement would have never started. It's still not what they have asked for, but the outcry will be in a much smaller scale.

The mere thought of Bioware mods being nothing more than PR machines wouldn't have existed in the first place. It's tragic. Only if they pretended that they cared instead of painting us as minorities....

[jtrook]

JasonDaPsycho wrote...

I would have announced an ending clarification once the outcry started. I know it's not really what OP has asked for but that's what I would have done. A lot of people were just pissed with how ambiguous and vague the endings are, but not necessarily the direction of the endings. Had I addressed them swiftly, the Retake movement would have never started. It's still not what they have asked for, but the outcry will be in a much smaller scale.

The mere thought of Bioware mods being nothing more than PR machines wouldn't have existed in the first place. It's tragic. Only if they pretended that they cared instead of painting us as minorities....

Makes you wonder. If they had included this already or announced it quicker, do you think there would even be a retake movement.

[Tazzmission]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

People thinking the IT theory is what they're gonna do are setting themselves up for disappointment.

well they did say that was the original plan but it just didnt look right with the diolauge tree


there was an article on it and it would make sence since they only cut that out and lefy everything else leading up to it in

[Eclipse merc]

AndroLeonidas wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

honestly and i say this not to be a douche but i wouldnt change a thing

if i was a developer and if i felt what my coworkers work is good enough to make the game then i would have to stick by my guns and keep the ending

look i admit the endings arent great but the only real issue i had was the cutoff regarding the crash and thats it

this new free dlc i believe will explain that so i dont think anybody needs to worry caus eheck im not despite my argument on bioware should stick by there current creation

The Normandy thing is one of the biggest issues with the ending after Star Child and different colors. How does the crew, including those with you on last mission, magically appear on Normandy and then seen running away? My crew wouldn't have left me no matter what.

Speculations?

[synsam]

jtrook wrote...

 I had a random thought and needed a reason to not do homework. I was thinking if you were a Bioware development team and you needed to compromise what would you do to try to appease the the fans requesting new endings without undermining those that enjoy the current endings? (Hypothetically the extended cut won't happen). Keep it civil and try to respect ideas even if you do not agree with them.

SEND OUT NAUGHTY BEAR TO PWN XD

[StElmo]

Our_Last_Scene wrote...

People thinking the IT theory is what they're gonna do are setting themselves up for disappointment.

To be fair, Bioware didn't exactly help themselves in that department. Their whole marketing campaign about the end was setting people up for dissapointment.

IT is a get out of jail free card, if they don't take it, it's just going to create another wave of controversy.