After all of Bioware's failure lately?
Will Dragon Age 3 succeed?
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 12:29
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It will change RPG's forever. Not really.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 12:40
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The only way it could possibly succeed is if they somehow manage to surprise and amaze us, which I am very doubtful of. I don't know, Flemeth turning out to be an Old God would be a great idea imo, and could help getting the story back to it's roots. Things like her shapeshifting into a high dragon, resurrecting after being killed by the Warden, Merrill getting so terrified while in her presence, Morrigan giving birth to a Demigod to protect herself, would finally all make sense... Other than that, I really don't see how could it succeed.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 12:56
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I don't think so as a long bioware don't stop to see RPG as TV fiction movies
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 12:57
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It'll probably be better than DA2. We'll see.
I don't think it'll have to conclude any plot about Flemeth or Morrigan to be good. It just needs to have more tactical combat without those silly ninja animations. There needs to be less combat and more dialogue plus none of those fetch quests. Combine that with choices which actually impact the plot and you've got a good RPG. So long as they don't dumb down the dialogue wheel as they did with ME3, Dragon Age 3 could turn out to be good.
They don't need to bring back Origins or a silent protagonist for the game to be good (though they would be bonuses) they just need to make gameplay enjoyable but with less action and more emphasis on choices, story and quests. Not all quests should be resolved via conflict.
According to the little information we have from Bioware there will be companion customization again along with classes and specializations impacting the plot especially the blood mage. Nothing is confirmed yet but if they execute these features perfectly then that'll be good.
I don't think it'll have to conclude any plot about Flemeth or Morrigan to be good. It just needs to have more tactical combat without those silly ninja animations. There needs to be less combat and more dialogue plus none of those fetch quests. Combine that with choices which actually impact the plot and you've got a good RPG. So long as they don't dumb down the dialogue wheel as they did with ME3, Dragon Age 3 could turn out to be good.
They don't need to bring back Origins or a silent protagonist for the game to be good (though they would be bonuses) they just need to make gameplay enjoyable but with less action and more emphasis on choices, story and quests. Not all quests should be resolved via conflict.
According to the little information we have from Bioware there will be companion customization again along with classes and specializations impacting the plot especially the blood mage. Nothing is confirmed yet but if they execute these features perfectly then that'll be good.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 01:47
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We'll see.
I loved ME3, but I certainly would not want it in a DA game. The ME series was very personal (pretty much centered around one person), and DA is not.
I enjoyed DA ][ immensely, though it doesn't hold a candle to DA:O. If they can get back to DA:O style and gameplay, at least halfway between it and DA ][, I think I'd enjoy DA ]|[ very much.
I loved ME3, but I certainly would not want it in a DA game. The ME series was very personal (pretty much centered around one person), and DA is not.
I enjoyed DA ][ immensely, though it doesn't hold a candle to DA:O. If they can get back to DA:O style and gameplay, at least halfway between it and DA ][, I think I'd enjoy DA ]|[ very much.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 01:51
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If it's more like an RPG (DA:O) thenk it will succeed.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 01:59
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Sequel to DA: O has a grand change. Sequel to DA II is something I wouldn't wish upon anyone.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:05
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LMFAO I love how the people on Bioware's own forum think DA3 will likely suck.
But yeah, since it appears it's going to be another Dragon Effect game, I predict poor sales.
But yeah, since it appears it's going to be another Dragon Effect game, I predict poor sales.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:07
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chunkyman wrote...
LMFAO I love how the people on Bioware's own forum think DA3 will likely suck.
But yeah, since it appears it's going to be another Dragon Effect game, I predict poor sales.
Look at the ME3 forums, man. Have you not been there for the last month?
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:09
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EternalAmbiguity wrote...
chunkyman wrote...
LMFAO I love how the people on Bioware's own forum think DA3 will likely suck.
But yeah, since it appears it's going to be another Dragon Effect game, I predict poor sales.
Look at the ME3 forums, man. Have you not been there for the last month?
I only go to the Off-topic section and occasionally the DA2 section.
What's happening at the ME3 section?
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:11
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chunkyman wrote...
I only go to the Off-topic section and occasionally the DA2 section.
What's happening at the ME3 section?
Ignorance is bliss, my friend... ignorance is bliss.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:16
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Let me get my magic 8-Ball....*shakes it*
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chunkyman wrote...
I only go to the Off-topic section and occasionally the DA2 section.
What's happening at the ME3 section?
Insanity.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:20
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Nothing good will come of this. *nods*
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:30
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I sure hope DA3 succeeds,if only for all the past games and countless hours of joy BW gave us.
I hope they will not rush it...I`d rather they poured resources into character interaction and a compelling storyline that feels complete in and of itself,without books and comics and anime movies and the like..The additional merchandise is fine,but only as additional content.
My problem with DA`s story`s direction and the new protagonist is that for a lot of us,BW did not provide complete closure neither for the Warden nor Hawke,and because of the timeline - intertwining stories stuff-,it is hard for me to get used to a new protagonist every game. With Bethesda games,I do not mind- after all,each installment is set generations apart,and in those cases,an honorable mention of the last game`s hero is fine and dandy,nothing missing. With BW games,we are invested in our characters and their companions,their choices and fates. Had DA:O and DA2 been set at least a century apart,it would have been easy to let go of my Warden and Hawke,and not feel as if there is a gaping hole in my heart when I meet yet another hero.I would have loved to explore more of Thedas with my old protagonist,seeing the evolution / devolution of their relationships with old / new companions first hand....I would have preferred they changed protagonist every new age,aka. Dragon Age series - Warden,Whatever Omen Heralds The Next Age - new protagonist, etc.
The DAO ending epilogue slides would have worked,if not for the "Warden is gone" hint in DA2...and they should have set any sequel far in the future.
I know,I am too attached to my past characters...but it is BW`s fault
Ah well,I hope the changes they plan to implement will serve to make DA3 a game to be remembered-and this time,for all the right reasons.
I hope they will not rush it...I`d rather they poured resources into character interaction and a compelling storyline that feels complete in and of itself,without books and comics and anime movies and the like..The additional merchandise is fine,but only as additional content.
My problem with DA`s story`s direction and the new protagonist is that for a lot of us,BW did not provide complete closure neither for the Warden nor Hawke,and because of the timeline - intertwining stories stuff-,it is hard for me to get used to a new protagonist every game. With Bethesda games,I do not mind- after all,each installment is set generations apart,and in those cases,an honorable mention of the last game`s hero is fine and dandy,nothing missing. With BW games,we are invested in our characters and their companions,their choices and fates. Had DA:O and DA2 been set at least a century apart,it would have been easy to let go of my Warden and Hawke,and not feel as if there is a gaping hole in my heart when I meet yet another hero.I would have loved to explore more of Thedas with my old protagonist,seeing the evolution / devolution of their relationships with old / new companions first hand....I would have preferred they changed protagonist every new age,aka. Dragon Age series - Warden,Whatever Omen Heralds The Next Age - new protagonist, etc.
The DAO ending epilogue slides would have worked,if not for the "Warden is gone" hint in DA2...and they should have set any sequel far in the future.
I know,I am too attached to my past characters...but it is BW`s fault
Ah well,I hope the changes they plan to implement will serve to make DA3 a game to be remembered-and this time,for all the right reasons.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:37
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I imagine so. After DA2 people questioned if ME3 would do well and it sold decently. DA2 also sold decently. I imagine DA3 will also sell decently. I'm really not sure what the OP deems as a failure. Sales wise they did not fail at all.
I think no matter what fans will whine about it. After ME2 there was plenty of whining and saying how Bioware is doomed. And here we are still with strong sales questioning how the next game will do.
I think no matter what fans will whine about it. After ME2 there was plenty of whining and saying how Bioware is doomed. And here we are still with strong sales questioning how the next game will do.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:47
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I don't have faith in it after DA2 and ME3.
Of course, ME3 wasn't made by the DA team, but the fact is, a Bioware title is still a Bioware title.
I expect a certain level of quality from them. At least, I used to.
Fool me once(DA2), shame on you. Fool me twice(ME3), shame on me.
I refuse to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Of course, ME3 wasn't made by the DA team, but the fact is, a Bioware title is still a Bioware title.
I expect a certain level of quality from them. At least, I used to.
Fool me once(DA2), shame on you. Fool me twice(ME3), shame on me.
I refuse to give them the benefit of the doubt anymore.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:48
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Yes, this whole thing about Bioware being doomed is reminiscent of WoW. After every single major patch since Burning Crusade people have been saying WoW is going to die out, its taken 5 years for that prediction to even come close even now with susbscribers dropping WoW isn't really dying. So this thing about Bioware going is just over dramatization but a handful of over emotional fans.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 02:58
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Moondoggie wrote...
I imagine so. After DA2 people questioned if ME3 would do well and it sold decently. DA2 also sold decently. I imagine DA3 will also sell decently. I'm really not sure what the OP deems as a failure. Sales wise they did not fail at all.
I think no matter what fans will whine about it. After ME2 there was plenty of whining and saying how Bioware is doomed. And here we are still with strong sales questioning how the next game will do.
Never understood all the ME2 hate, myself - I think it's the best game in the series. It was more "mainstream" than ME1, but that wasn't necessarily such a bad thing - it trimmed most of the fat from ME1 without losing much of that game's substance IMHO.
Honestly, I think the gameplay, dialogue, characters, etc. are superior in every way. It's too bad BW didn't stick with what they had and instead opted to further "streamline" things for ME3, resulting in the hollow "husk" of a game that I'm out $70 for.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 03:05
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The details are not out yet so I can't comment on DA 3. I hope it will be a legitimately good game. I followed DA 2 and intentionally avoided it like the plague (after pre-ordering DA:O and ME 2). I wasn't suprised at the disappointment of people who bought it. Sadly, there's little else I can do other than not buy games in protest to the direction Bioware is taking with it's most recent games. I haven't bought ME 3 yet either. Hopefully there will be a ME 3 release where some issues are fixed and I can finish the trilogy sometime.
I used to be excited at each Bioware release. Now...I go to other companies. I hope Bioware can pull their stuff together again. I look forward to a comeback with DA 3 but I'm not holding my breath.
I used to be excited at each Bioware release. Now...I go to other companies. I hope Bioware can pull their stuff together again. I look forward to a comeback with DA 3 but I'm not holding my breath.
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 03:08
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Highly unlikely. I can garauntee I have zero interest and will not be buying it. BioWare games are way too simplistic. They're apparently stealing ideas from Skyrim, however, so who knows...
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Posté 11 avril 2012 - 03:10
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After looking at the pax interview for DA3, I highly doubt it;
-No reusing maps?
-Decisions that matter?
-Equipment for party members?
Thank you for those basic features.
-No reusing maps?
-Decisions that matter?
-Equipment for party members?
Thank you for those basic features.
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