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[Sajji]

jollyorigins wrote...

After looking at the pax interview for DA3, I highly doubt it;

-No reusing maps?
-Decisions that matter?
-Equipment for party members?

Thank you for those basic features.

Decisions that matter? Like the 16 'wildly divergent' endings? They lied once...anybody who believes this talk needs to re-evaluate credibility and understand its likely 'sales speech', a common defense against false advertising. Not that decisions mattering are a prerequisite for all rpgs...some have prerequisites of amazing exploration and / or loot and have decisions 'mattering' as an afterthought.

Dragon Age 3 will live to see another day for me when they decide to do an unvoiced protagonist. Not happening, so not interested at all.

***not attacking this statement....taking the reminder about decisions that matter and making a generalized statement.

Modifié par Sajji, 11 avril 2012 - 03:25 .

[Eternal Phoenix]

Sajji wrote...

jollyorigins wrote...

After looking at the pax interview for DA3, I highly doubt it;

-No reusing maps?
-Decisions that matter?
-Equipment for party members?

Thank you for those basic features.

Decisions that matter? Like the 16 'wildly divergent' endings? They lied once...anybody who believes this talk needs to re-evaluate credibility and understand its likely 'sales speech', a common defense against false advertising. Not that decisions mattering are a prerequisite for all rpgs...some have prerequisites of amazing exploration and / or loot and have decisions 'mattering' as an afterthought.

Dragon Age 3 will live to see another day for me when they decide to do an unvoiced protagonist. Not happening, so not interested at all.

***not attacking this statement....taking the reminder about decisions that matter and making a generalized statement.

Bioware made Baldur's Gate, NWN and Origins. They messed up with DA2 and ME3 but perhaps that fan backslash has taught them a little lesson. We shouldn't really judge DA3 until it's released.

[Moondoggie]

I doubt we'll see another Dragon Age 2 anytime soon. They all know that game wasn't up to standard and they need to do better to save that franchise. Well except for the project lead for DA2 he will defend that game to his grave. Hopefully apart from him everyone will realise that we want Dragon Age and not Mass Effect with swords.

So yeah i think we can expect Dragon Age 3 to be better than Dragon Age 2. Will it be better than Dragon Age:Origins? Of course not but that doesn't mean it can't be a good game. Hopefully this time they'll consider what people liked about Origins with the storyline and the end goal and all the other features people enjoyed like the customisation of the full party and find a way to have that and also evolve the game like they tried with Dragon Age 2 but do it in a direction that doesn't make it too far away from what it's fanbase enjoys.

[Seagloom]

Will Dragon Age 3 succeed? Too early to call. If I had foresight that good, I would be spending lottery winnings instead of replying to this thread. Alas, I will have to settle for the mundanity of day to day life.

[catabuca]

Define "succeed."

Succeed in meeting its sales target? Probably.
Succeed in providing an enjoyable experience? Probably.
Succeed in getting good 'professional' reviews? Probably.
Succeed in making me happy? More than likely.
Succeed in pleasing every person on BSN? Not on your nelly.

[Biotic_Warlock]

Multicolour ending please!

(yes, it will succeed!)

[Plinkett]

I meant succeed as in not ****** off ALL OF THE ****ING FANBASE!

[HiroVoid]

It'll depend on the actual quality of the game. DA3'll certainly have drastically less pre-order numbers than DA2 did, so it'll have to rely on word of mouth, and I would also say gameplay vidoes showing off the game if it is well made before release. If Bioware and EA think just marketing it a lot will guarantee them sales, they'll fool themselves.

[The Jackal]

BioWare confirmed during its PAX East panel over the weekend that work has finished on Dragon Age 2, and the Dragon Age team is moving on. More importantly, some heavy hints were dropped about the tweaks we'll see in the inevitable (though unannounced) Dragon Age 3.

Dragon Age Creative Director Mike Laidlaw explained that the team had done some polling amongst the community to find out what fans wanted in future games. At the top of the wishlist for Dragon Age 3 seemed to be a greater diversity in environments, and better equipment options for followers and party members. Laidlaw indicated that all of these things would happen.

Some community involvement may be exactly what the Dragon Age franchise needs, though I suspect much of the feedback from the community will consist of "Make it more like Dragon Age: Origins and less like Dragon Age 2."

[naughty99]

It's hard to estimate total sales because digital downloads for PC are not revealed for any of these titles, but at this point ME3 looks to be a lot more successful than ME2. It's already sold nearly the same amount of physical copies within a few weeks.

I imagine DA3 will likely sell more copies than DA2 and DA:O, if that is what you mean by "succeed."

Modifié par naughty99, 11 avril 2012 - 08:44 .

[wolfsite]

Wait for actual game information before I make up my mind about this.  Rather unfair to speculate and judge a game that hs, to my knowledge, not even been officially announced.

[Jozape]

What I heard from the PAX panel sounded good, besides the voiced protagonist. And I don't have a lot of faith in the wheel. But they could make up for that by having less dialog, and more role-playing opportunities in the non-dialog areas(such as casting imprisonment on a thief instead of watching a cinematic with Varric punching and shooting a guy).

[Black_water]

Will it succeed? Yes

Will it be good? BAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

[Black_water]

Sajji wrote...

Decisions that matter? Like the 16 'wildly divergent' endings?  

Oh I remember that well

http://gamerant.com/...u-brian-143021/ 

Why can't Bioware learn how to do endings?

[bussinrounds]

Some community involvement may be exactly what the Dragon Age franchise needs

  Not from this community.

"The interesting thing about Baldur's Gate, but especially BG2, is how critical reaction and fan reaction completely
went apesh*t for the storyline, writing, and other "emotional engagement" while ignoring a lot of the more "gamey" aspects, which is where the game really shined. It's like people played the games, enjoyedthe fun interpretation of D&D, crawled around in some fun dungeons,fought some well-crafted encounters, and then when going to express
their opinions they gushed praise for plot, setting, and characters thatwere pretty decent at times but cringe-worthy a little too often . And the Bioware head honchos took this to heart, catering to those people. I mean, Neverwinter Nights didn't have time to design anything better than one of the sh**t*est campaigns ever, but they sure had time to write in plenty of elvish waifu sh*t , and I even recall a lot of praisebeing given for this. Then with KOTOR, Bioware fully embraced their Westernized dating sim and started headlong down the road to swooping, ass pirates, slu**ty witches, and gay ****** buttseckts. The "public" got exactly what they clamored for, and everyone else got shafted. (and continues to)"

Modifié par bussinrounds, 11 avril 2012 - 11:08 .

[Blastback]

I'm sure as heck not preordering. Got burned to bad by DA2, and ME3 has not exactly redemed Bioware with it's horrible conclusion. I want Bioware to win me back. But they are going to have to work for it.

[Blastback]

bussinrounds wrote...

Some community involvement may be exactly what the Dragon Age franchise needs

  Not from this community.

"The interesting thing about Baldur's Gate, but especially BG2, is how critical reaction and fan reaction completely
went apesh*t for the storyline, writing, and other "emotional engagement" while ignoring a lot of the more "gamey" aspects, which is where the game really shined. It's like people played the games, enjoyedthe fun interpretation of D&D, crawled around in some fun dungeons,fought some well-crafted encounters, and then when going to express
their opinions they gushed praise for plot, setting, and characters thatwere pretty decent at times but cringe-worthy a little too often . And the Bioware head honchos took this to heart, catering to those people. I mean, Neverwinter Nights didn't have time to design anything better than one of the sh**t*est campaigns ever, but they sure had time to write in plenty of elvish waifu sh*t , and I even recall a lot of praisebeing given for this. Then with KOTOR, Bioware fully embraced their Westernized dating sim and started headlong down the road to swooping, ass pirates, slu**ty witches, and gay ****** buttseckts. The "public" got exactly what they clamored for, and everyone else got shafted. (and continues to)"

Who exactly are you quoting, and why should I care what they have to say?
Honestly, this is way to dismisive of the opinions of me and other players.

[CrazyRah]

It depends if Bioware realise that a game need a decent development cycle to avoid being rushed

[bussinrounds]

Blastback wrote...

bussinrounds wrote...

 why should I care what they have to say?
Honestly, this is way to dismisive of the opinions of me and other players.

   LOL. I don't give a rats ass what you care about.

[Tommyspa]

If the internet reacts rationally to a video game, then yes it will because the game will obviously be good regardless of how loud the dissenters are. If the BioWare is only bad meme thing takes hold again it won't do as well as it deserves. So, maybe?

[valentine3]

Jozape wrote...

What I heard from the PAX panel sounded good, besides the voiced protagonist. And I don't have a lot of faith in the wheel. But they could make up for that by having less dialog, and more role-playing opportunities in the non-dialog areas(such as casting imprisonment on a thief instead of watching a cinematic with Varric punching and shooting a guy).

What you heard from the pax panel was much the same as last year.
Bioware already stated that they wont be using recycled enviroments then( when they showed the bigger part of the Thedas map) and choices would matter.
The only new info I really got from pax was that we could choose our pc/companies outfit colour and that Orlais might  be a bit french.

[bussinrounds]

What you heard from the pax panel was much the same as last year.

  Yea, more bs marketing talk.

  Makes me just want to increace my pledge for Wasteland 2.