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[N7Raider]

there's nothing wrong with it. If it really bothers you that much get your eyes checked or put on sunglasses, either way stop complaining.

[smilinpig]

 agree...would like to se it modified a bit
doesn't give a haddok...but the blurry stuff, excessive borders, and overall effect makes playing hunter mode less cool than it could be--I would have loved a look more like the Javelin -- red borders, enemies outlined in purple. That would have been a better hunter mode IMO --

[chuckytheman]

N7Raider wrote...

there's nothing wrong with it. If it really bothers you that much get your eyes checked or put on sunglasses, either way stop complaining.

Wow, thanks so much for your self-centered opinion. Your opinion is NOT FACT. And your suggestion is invalid. Do not come into a petition thread and start insulting people indirectly.

Simply because we find an issue with something, doesn't mean we're complaining. It's called feedback and last time I check Devs wanted it from their fan base. This is very important to us. And it's simple to fix. Give us an option to turn things off. Think back to the games where you ACTUALLY got options in your options menu. Game changing options. Enjoyment altering options. etc.

People who do not have anything constuctive and simply wish to degrade or undermind others should stay out of a petition thread. If you have no problems with it. Why bother posting that? If there is no problems, then go play the game instead of annoying us purposefully.

[Xaijin]

N7Raider wrote...

there's nothing wrong with it. If it really bothers you that much get your eyes checked or put on sunglasses, either way stop complaining.

Wrong. If people are becoming physically ill, there's something wrong with it, regardless of the percentage affected.

[UJN]

chuckytheman wrote...

N7Raider wrote...

there's nothing wrong with it. If it really bothers you that much get your eyes checked or put on sunglasses, either way stop complaining.

Wow, thanks so much for your self-centered opinion. Your opinion is NOT FACT. And your suggestion is invalid. Do not come into a petition thread and start insulting people indirectly.

Simply because we find an issue with something, doesn't mean we're complaining. It's called feedback and last time I check Devs wanted it from their fan base. This is very important to us. And it's simple to fix. Give us an option to turn things off. Think back to the games where you ACTUALLY got options in your options menu. Game changing options. Enjoyment altering options. etc.

People who do not have anything constuctive and simply wish to degrade or undermind others should stay out of a petition thread. If you have no problems with it. Why bother posting that? If there is no problems, then go play the game instead of annoying us purposefully.

Just ignore. Obvious trolling. The length of this thread is proof enough that there is an issue and noone is stupid enough to think that there's something wrong with everyone else and not the game.

[JGDD]

chuckytheman wrote...

Think back to the games where you ACTUALLY got options in your options menu.

I had to chuckle at this comment. You give way too much credit to the 12 year olds of having any vague idea about such things.

Modifié par justgimmedudedammit, 24 avril 2012 - 07:38 .

[Shelondias]

I would think the visual effects were the required downside to a powerful ability no?

[JGDD]

Zondergrod wrote...

I would think the visual effects were the required downside to a powerful ability no?

Explain halving the shields then.

[Offender_Mullet]

There's nothing wrong with Hunter Mode. I'm lovin' it.

Those of you who are experiencing eye pains either have the brightness on the monitor jacked-up, are playing hour after hour with the mode on, are sitting way too close to the monitor.....or all three. One match, give your eyes some rest. Go back to it later. Common sense.

Modifié par Offender_Mullet, 24 avril 2012 - 11:24 .

[Korubrus]

Offender_Mullet wrote...

There's nothing wrong with Hunter Mode. I'm lovin' it.

Those of you who are experiencing eye pains either have the brightness on the monitor jacked-up, are playing hour after hour with the mode on, are sitting way too close to the monitor.....or all three. One match, give your eyes some rest. Go back to it later. Common sense.

1 x game (about 15 minuits) then rest?

Typically you should be able to play 45 minuits without any issues.
It would be good if the visuals weren't so extreme. Perhaps a darker shade of blue would be easier to play with.

[Satarielz]

Agreed, i turn it off after every wave to let my eyes ''relax''. Then back on when mobs spawn. But yeah it's a real pain indeed.

[mazzulmaz1]

Gave me a severe migraine after 20 minutes.

Fix that ****.

[chuckytheman]

Offender_Mullet wrote...

There's nothing wrong with Hunter Mode. I'm lovin' it.

Those of you who are experiencing eye pains either have the brightness on the monitor jacked-up, are playing hour after hour with the mode on, are sitting way too close to the monitor.....or all three. One match, give your eyes some rest. Go back to it later. Common sense.

Let me try and understand this. I am to take breaks in between my gaming... not because it is healthy or that I should go out and see the real world at least once a year. But because of poor gaming machinics that force me too? And that it has to be at the end of every match to avoid a headache?

Because you're basically saying, there is no problem and it's all our fault. Another ignorant person who can't understand that it's not always about it hurting our eyes or us whining about something new. Some times it's just too much crap all over the screen. Other times it's the useless blur effect that makes it HARDER to see things on or around the side of your screen. Then there is the blue lines of crap hiding anything blue related on your screen.

Also, why does everyone seem to suggest or blame our monitors? "Change your monitor brightness" Why should I? Because a single game's skill is retardedly annoying to me? Why not simply get it so that it's not. And why are you suggesting to change the monitor brightness and not the games brightness? Shows how little people even  thought this through.. Fact is, solving it by lowering the brightness will only work while that skill is active. Once it's deactivated (Because you know, some people like having +50% more sheilds) you'll have darkville for a screen. That makes more issues than it solves, if anything. Soon I'll see "Well if you don't like it don't use the skill" which I'd answer, I don't use it but when I did I had issues with it. Thus reporting those issues as important feedback. Next it'll be " Don't like it, don't play" Which is too dumb to value an actual response.

This is a ligitamate reason of a complaint. If you don't agree, that's fine. But don't try telling ALL OF US WHO DO AGREE, that we're either whinny self-centered little kids (12 year olds) or that we're all complete utter idiots who cannot think of a possible solution our selves.

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
I had to chuckle at this comment. You give way too much credit to the 12 year olds of having any vague idea about such things.

So, are we assuming things now? Such as assuming everyone is simply a bratty 12 year old kid and not young adults or even, dare I say, actual adults?

You'd be surprised at the number of games those same 12 year olds could have access to that has a large number of options. Wow is a easy one. That game gives the player a metric-crap ton of options for the game.

Modifié par chuckytheman, 25 avril 2012 - 09:30 .

[Siegdrifa]

When i play in hunter mode, i make my eyes go lazy as well, i don't look to details anymore, just forme and moving object, the red one, so, i have no problem at all spending hours in hunter mode.

But i do agree that blur + higher brightness intensity + bleu point flash light could be problematic to some people, i wouldn't be surprise if some (worste) case get nosea out of this screen set-up, especialy on bad monitors with low frequences.

[UJN]

Zondergrod wrote...

I would think the visual effects were the required downside to a powerful ability no?

Well, yes, but it's a bit too much. If it's a bit distracting and annoying it's fine, but now it's actually causing headaches and eye strain and I don't really think that was the point.

I've used it a lot more now and haven't really had any problem with it since the first night. 
I still support a fix however, just because it's not a problem for me doesn't make it less of an issue.

[born2beagator]

UJN wrote...

Zondergrod wrote...

I would think the visual effects were the required downside to a powerful ability no?

Well, yes, but it's a bit too much. If it's a bit distracting and annoying it's fine, but now it's actually causing headaches and eye strain and I don't really think that was the point.

I've used it a lot more now and haven't really had any problem with it since the first night. 
I still support a fix however, just because it's not a problem for me doesn't make it less of an issue.

and it already has a downside, it halves your shields.  You should not make the downside of an ability be physical pain:pinched:

[RecoonHoodie]

chuckytheman wrote...

Offender_Mullet wrote...

There's nothing wrong with Hunter Mode. I'm lovin' it.

Those of you who are experiencing eye pains either have the brightness on the monitor jacked-up, are playing hour after hour with the mode on, are sitting way too close to the monitor.....or all three. One match, give your eyes some rest. Go back to it later. Common sense.

Let me try and understand this. I am to take breaks in between my gaming... not because it is healthy or that I should go out and see the real world at least once a year. But because of poor gaming machinics that force me too? And that it has to be at the end of every match to avoid a headache?

Because you're basically saying, there is no problem and it's all our fault. Another ignorant person who can't understand that it's not always about it hurting our eyes or us whining about something new. Some times it's just too much crap all over the screen. Other times it's the useless blur effect that makes it HARDER to see things on or around the side of your screen. Then there is the blue lines of crap hiding anything blue related on your screen.

Also, why does everyone seem to suggest or blame our monitors? "Change your monitor brightness" Why should I? Because a single game's skill is retardedly annoying to me? Why not simply get it so that it's not. And why are you suggesting to change the monitor brightness and not the games brightness? Shows how little people even  thought this through.. Fact is, solving it by lowering the brightness will only work while that skill is active. Once it's deactivated (Because you know, some people like having +50% more sheilds) you'll have darkville for a screen. That makes more issues than it solves, if anything. Soon I'll see "Well if you don't like it don't use the skill" which I'd answer, I don't use it but when I did I had issues with it. Thus reporting those issues as important feedback. Next it'll be " Don't like it, don't play" Which is too dumb to value an actual response.

This is a ligitamate reason of a complaint. If you don't agree, that's fine. But don't try telling ALL OF US WHO DO AGREE, that we're either whinny self-centered little kids (12 year olds) or that we're all complete utter idiots who cannot think of a possible solution our selves.

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
I had to chuckle at this comment. You give way too much credit to the 12 year olds of having any vague idea about such things.

So, are we assuming things now? Such as assuming everyone is simply a bratty 12 year old kid and not young adults or even, dare I say, actual adults?

You'd be surprised at the number of games those same 12 year olds could have access to that has a large number of options. Wow is a easy one. That game gives the player a metric-crap ton of options for the game.

I just... thank you for your response 

[born2beagator]

Btw I am 23. So I am not a bratty 12 year old

717 replies on this thread. i wish a rep would chime in

[Offender_Mullet]

chuckytheman,

Looks like someone missed their yoga class this morning. Yikes.

Question for you kind sir: Is Bioware forcing you to have Hunter Mode on 100% of the time? No. That's just a character perk. It's an option. It's not mandatory to have on. It's an extreme visual mode and was obviously meant to be that way. There, a simple yet earth-shattering point. [/endofargument]

Before you automatically blame the game, did you even bother to ask yourself about the points I brought up which might be giving you the life-threatening (omg!) ailments? Probably not, which brings me to this.....

It's always easiest to blame the product, rather than to admit to user error, which happens to be the real issue about 90% of the time. The problem does lie on your end if you are finding it difficult to handle, so that.....whatever the combination of variables it may be.....is the real problem.

So it's not ok for me to bring up examples of what might be giving people the pain, but it is ok for you to blame the game just because your eyes for whatever reason(s) can't process the visuals without you going insane? No, sorry life doesn't work like that.

I didn't call anyone a "whiny self-centered little kid", etc. Those are your words.

And about a monitor's setting & game's brightness setting, if you know what you're doing with a monitor, 9/10 times you will NOT need to change the game's brightness settings. Last time I had to do that I believe was Half-Life 2, but hey.....what do I know?


p.s. I can see the blue markers just fine when they pop-up.

[JGDD]

chuckytheman wrote...

justgimmedudedammit wrote...
I had to chuckle at this comment. You give way too much credit to the 12 year olds of having any vague idea about such things.

So, are we assuming things now? Such as assuming everyone is simply a bratty 12 year old kid and not young adults or even, dare I say, actual adults?

You'd be surprised at the number of games those same 12 year olds could have access to that has a large number of options. Wow is a easy one. That game gives the player a metric-crap ton of options for the game.

Kindly point out where I called anyone a brat in that post. I see you were assuming I had malicious intent with that post when, in fact, it was simply a matter of obeservation that many younger players have not experienced the older games you referred to. The ones with options.

You're also assuming those same younger players would care to check out the older titles. Perhaps they do, most likely not since at one point I recall being a tween and had the attention span of a gnat then, too. Using WoW as an older example is...not really that old. I guess during my nearly five decades of breathing oxygen I go back slightly further than that when I think of older titles with options. So my point still stands. It's simply a matter of perspective. Unless, of course, you assume otherwise.

[Xaijin]

So it's not ok for me to bring up examples of what might be giving people the pain, but it is ok for you to blame the game just because your eyes for whatever reason(s) can't process the visuals without you going insane? No, sorry life doesn't work like that.

You don't understand much about consumer value do you. If a product is harming the consumer, the consumer will not buy it. The consumer will not use it. The company making the product will lose money. It's really simple. BW has created a mode that literally denies its own customers access to it. No terribly bright from an end user standpoint, especially considering MP is what's keeping ME revenues coming in right now.

[jaydee114]

 signed.. also please fix krogan battlemaster rage mode bug! thanks!

[Tal_Elmar]

I wonder how long should be bump this thread for Bioware stuff to post at least anything here? Or hurting the customers' eyes is now considered artistic integrity?

Modifié par Tal_Elmar, 25 avril 2012 - 06:33 .

[Rucent]

Offender_Mullet wrote...

chuckytheman,

Looks like someone missed their yoga class this morning. Yikes.

Question for you kind sir: Is Bioware forcing you to have Hunter Mode on 100% of the time? No. That's just a character perk. It's an option. It's not mandatory to have on. It's an extreme visual mode and was obviously meant to be that way. There, a simple yet earth-shattering point. [/endofargument]

Before you automatically blame the game, did you even bother to ask yourself about the points I brought up which might be giving you the life-threatening (omg!) ailments? Probably not, which brings me to this.....

It's always easiest to blame the product, rather than to admit to user error, which happens to be the real issue about 90% of the time. The problem does lie on your end if you are finding it difficult to handle, so that.....whatever the combination of variables it may be.....is the real problem.

So it's not ok for me to bring up examples of what might be giving people the pain, but it is ok for you to blame the game just because your eyes for whatever reason(s) can't process the visuals without you going insane? No, sorry life doesn't work like that.

I didn't call anyone a "whiny self-centered little kid", etc. Those are your words.

And about a monitor's setting & game's brightness setting, if you know what you're doing with a monitor, 9/10 times you will NOT need to change the game's brightness settings. Last time I had to do that I believe was Half-Life 2, but hey.....what do I know?


p.s. I can see the blue markers just fine when they pop-up.

You're wrong about user error because multiple people have already stated that monitor brightness had nothing to do with it.  Trying to hide your "it's fine for me, too bad for you" argument behind garbage statements doesn't work.

Modifié par Rucent, 25 avril 2012 - 06:34 .

[chuckytheman]

Offender_Mullet wrote...

chuckytheman,

Looks like someone missed their yoga class this morning. Yikes.

Question for you kind sir: Is Bioware forcing you to have Hunter Mode on 100% of the time? No. That's just a character perk. It's an option. It's not mandatory to have on. It's an extreme visual mode and was obviously meant to be that way. There, a simple yet earth-shattering point. [/endofargument]

Before you automatically blame the game, did you even bother to ask yourself about the points I brought up which might be giving you the life-threatening (omg!) ailments? Probably not, which brings me to this.....

It's always easiest to blame the product, rather than to admit to user error, which happens to be the real issue about 90% of the time. The problem does lie on your end if you are finding it difficult to handle, so that.....whatever the combination of variables it may be.....is the real problem.

So it's not ok for me to bring up examples of what might be giving people the pain, but it is ok for you to blame the game just because your eyes for whatever reason(s) can't process the visuals without you going insane? No, sorry life doesn't work like that.

I didn't call anyone a "whiny self-centered little kid", etc. Those are your words.

And about a monitor's setting & game's brightness setting, if you know what you're doing with a monitor, 9/10 times you will NOT need to change the game's brightness settings. Last time I had to do that I believe was Half-Life 2, but hey.....what do I know?


p.s. I can see the blue markers just fine when they pop-up.

Okay, well pointless insults aside. It is completely irrelevant whether I or anyone else has Geth Hunter Mode on 100% of the time or less. You're missing the point here. It hurts people's eyes or causes stress when IN USE! 20% of the time or 100% of the time. Over extended use people are having discomfort. Do you not understand the basic point here? Also, do you know anything about the common setup of skills in this game? Look at Tech Armor or Barrier. They're both skills that are supposed to be active for an extendedly long periods of time. That's why when deactivated it helps you in for form of an attack for sticky situations. Geth Hunter mode gives you back +50% of your sheilds, which I only assume is to be like Tech Armor. Since it lowered the sheilds in the first place.

Also, why are we questioning how long we are to use a skill? I'm the player and I choose how long I want to use it. It shouldn't matter if I want to use it once in a while or play an entire 10 waves of enemies with it on. It's MY CHOICE! BioWare is seemingly very big on "Choice". And this is a problem that cannot be avoided and shouldn't be. It's easy to address and that's what this forum's purpose is. Now please stop trying to "shatter the earth" with your very simplistic points. This thread is not for arguments about whether we're right or wrong.

And I have not "automatically blamed the game", I'm requesting a change in the game. They intended this skill to be fun and interesting, if not unique. And it quite frankly, it is. But it also takes it's toll personally. And your points are pretty much pointless. We're well aware of them and still would like a change. Is this so hard to understand? Any idiot can tell us we're not to use it 100% of the time. But why not? It's my choice. Let it be so. Now stop acting as if we're blaming the product, because again you're missing the real point here. As for "it's our fault" kind of mindset, thanks again for repeating yourself. You know, I see people always saying it's something wrong with your monitor, eyes or computer. Why is it so hard to believe that a number of people are bothered if not pained by this Skill? Also, when did I say that it actually pains me to use? When did I say it gives me headaches? I'm merely annoyed by how clustered my screen gets and how unneedingly difficult it can make playing the game. If I mention anything related to pain, it's because of others that are pained by it.

"whiny self-centered little kid", Yes those are my words why would you think otherwise? I didn't "quote" you on it. But what comes to mind when someone calls people 12 year olds? Hmmm? Exactly what I said. Whiny self-centered little kids. Stop trying to get defensive over nothing.

Oh, yes and the Monitor comment. That's wonderful. So again because you find in your personal opinion that it's much easier to adjust the monitor instead of the only single game that is giving visual issues? Right. Got'cha.
Because this makes sense. Adjust important settings of your monitor because of ONE game. What does it matter if poeple "know what they're doing"? You're missing the fact that A) This would only help while the skill is active and would make for needlessly changing your monitor repeatedly. The easier and more simple answer would be to adjust the games settings since the problem is only with the game and not when you're browsing the internet. But all besides the point and is only a temp. solution.

Modifié par chuckytheman, 25 avril 2012 - 06:39 .