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[OmegaBlue0231]

"She's dead Jim." - Leonard McCoy

[Fiery Knight]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[LPPrince]

You are horribly misinformed or are just not looking in the right places, Koga.

The hate for Deception was big enough that its not hard to find out Gillian died via toothbrush in Deception.

As ridiculous as it sounds, it actually happened.

[izmirtheastarach]

Burayan_Koga wrote...

Unless one of the writers themselves say that she died, I'm not accepting it from anyone else. I have looked everywhere to try and confirm what you are all saying but only speculations or down right lying which is not cool of you people!

The synposis you are reading only covers the first few chapters of Deception. It's based on the sample chapters that the publisher released prior to the book's street date. You can go and read those chapters right now and see that this is clearly the case.

Gillian is killed at the end of the book. I read it the day it came out. You can see my review of it on Amazon.

She is very, very dead. No one is playing a trick on you. That's just what happens in the book. Kail Leng stabs her to death with a prison-style shank he has made out of a toothbrush.

If you don't want to believe people who are telling you the truth, then the only way you willl confirm it is by reading the book. The Wiki team is likely not going to get around to creating a full synopsis until the corrected 2nd edition of the book is released.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 11 avril 2012 - 03:59 .

[flexxdk]

If you don't believe us, go read Deception.

You'll see.

[ReshyShira]

Wasn't deception horrible though?

[voteDC]

Burayan_Koga wrote...

Gillian didn't die in Deception! She took the Khar'shan.

Revelation: When Anderson Met Saren.

Ascension: The novel in which Gillian was introduced.

Retribution: Illusive Man going after Gillian's 'father'.

Deception: The book in which Gillian dies.

[Robhuzz]

LPPrince wrote...

To elaborate-

Gillian Grayson is dead. She was killed by Kai Leng in Mass Effect Deception.

He stabbed her with a sharpened toothbrush. This is not a joke.

We couldn't believe how bad the book was either.

The level of writing in the end of ME3 must've been familiar to you then. Seems quite on par.

[izmirtheastarach]

James_Raynor wrote...

Wasn't deception horrible though?

Absolutely. I don't encourage anyone to read it. Certainly not to pay money for it. That was the whole goal of the Amazon bomb campaign. To let people know how terrible it was before they wasted their money on it.

It's one of the worst books I've ever read. 

[charmingcharlie]

Burayan_Koga wrote...

Unless one of the writers themselves say that she died, I'm not accepting it from anyone else. I have looked everywhere to try and confirm what you are all saying but only speculations or down right lying which is not cool of you people!

Look if you are not going to listen to the dozens of people here telling you she died after being stabbed by a toothbrush (I admit that it's actually unbelievable a writer would even write that) then get the Deception book for yourself and read it.  She dies at the end of Deception a book that is endorsed by Bioware.  I am afraid Gillian is DEAD whether you like it or not.

[I Xandra I]

Mass Effect 3, Deception.. and so much more. What else do they have to fix?

[AlexMBrennan]

SWTOR

[ReshyShira]

Dragon Age 2 too.

[Noelemahc]

Dragon Age 2 is as fixed as it's gonna get, I think. They seem to be intent on remedying that with Dragon Age 3, however, judging by the pro-- oh, wait, I see what they did there. We trusted the promises about Mass Effect 3, and where did THAT get us?

[zeypher]

For future bioware products do not expect high level of quality. This seems to be the trend, DA2 and ME3 provide ample evidence

[eoinnx03]

************Spoiler Alert*****************************

She's alive.

[vipez]

Although I heard about how bad Deception is, I still bought it and read it since it was Revelations that got me interested into mass effect (got bored once, bought the book from waterstones and have been hooked ever since).

I was really pissed off when I was reading the part when she died. Such a waste of a character. I also wasn't happy of how William C. Dietz totally changed her character.

I would of loved to even have read more books with her and Hendel in (who also had a complete change of character in my view). A DLC would've been awesome, even if it was a one off mission or something.

[wafflez]

Didn't she get killed by a toothbrush?

[izmirtheastarach]

 

vipez wrote...

I would of loved to even have read more books with her and Hendel in (who also had a complete change of character in my view). A DLC would've been awesome, even if it was a one off mission or something.

 
Every character in the book changed completely. I don't think Dietz understood anything about them.

Modifié par izmirtheastarach, 11 avril 2012 - 05:10 .

[Han Shot First]

The_Shootist wrote...

Who, or what, is Gillian Grayson?

She is a recurring character in the Mass Effect books.

Gillian Grayson

*If* there is a retcon that brings back Gillian Grayson, I don't think she should end up as a squadmate on the Normandy. She should show up in the game as a war asset at best.

Modifié par Han Shot First, 11 avril 2012 - 05:13 .

[RyanPun1991]

She died in deception, but again deception is full of crap.
So... ya lol

[BD Manchild]

Ugh, why did I look in this topic? Now I've got the horrible, horrible memories of that damn book circulating in my brain. That book is garbage, and its author belongs in the garbage. I should have taken it as a warning sign that BioWare might get caught napping with any part of ME3's story...

If it was up to me, I would've just stricken Deception from the record (there are way, way too many errors with it to apply a simple fix, and the whole book's badly-written and achieves nothing narrative-wise anyway); if I did that, I would have Gillian and/or Hendel make an appearance, even if it's just for one mission worth of DLC. David Archer's portrayal is proof that the writers of the games at least can make a, if not entirely realistic then certainly sympathetic portrayal of an autistic character; it would've been cool to see how they handled Gillian.

By the way, I thought seeing Kahlee Sanders turn up was a cool little Easter Egg for those who'd read the books (and was still handled so that those not familiar with them were brought up-to-speed on the essentials, like her relationship to Anderson).

Modifié par BD Manchild, 11 avril 2012 - 05:19 .

[crazyrabbits]

Zed's dead, baby. Zed's dead.

[DaBigDragon]

She is killed at the end of the fourth novel, Mass Effect: Deception.