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Sebbe1337o

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...ME3 would've ended like this. A lot better imo:

http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

I know this has been posted before, but I think those who hasn't seen this should. And if you liked the current ending, good for you. I'm glad some liked it at least :)


Also: This explaination is a lot better than "we kill you so you won't be killed by synthetics" etc...

Do you think it would be a better ending?

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Yeah that would have been better then having behemoth death machines kill organics based on assumptions.

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Cainne Chapel

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While the explanation would be different, the end result would still be the same and methinks people would still complain in all honesty.

As the "Its all for nothing as everything goes kaput anyway!" complaints would still abound.

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As an outline it makes more sense that what we got. Not really a difficult task,granted. I think the sacrifice of Shepard vs everyone works better though. Maybe he needs to go into an overlord type machine and be incorporated into the Reaper network.

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I don't see anything about a god-child in Drew's ending.

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Cainne Chapel wrote...

While the explanation would be different, the end result would still be the same and methinks people would still complain in all honesty.

As the "Its all for nothing as everything goes kaput anyway!" complaints would still abound.


Yup, I agree. But I think it's really hard to write an ending where most/all important choices have an impact, maybe they could make the ending more happy if you had more happy endings to more main quests or something. But still, really hard to pull off, and we'll never get it sadly :(

Still makes more sense than current ending though, but that's not a great achievement.

kbct wrote...

I don't see anything about a god-child in Drew's ending.


This^

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So the Reapers kill every other advanced civilization because...? They don't like competition? Maybe it would've been better in-game, but that explanation does nothing for me.

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Dark energy > yo dawg I herd....

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that could have allowed for true renegade and paragon choices. anything probably would have been better than the deus ex startbrat.

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Dry County wrote...

So the Reapers kill every other advanced civilization because...? They don't like competition? Maybe it would've been better in-game, but that explanation does nothing for me.


Competition? It's to solve the problem with dark energy consuming everything. They need more races (reapers) to have more collected intelligence and knowledge so they can overcome that threat.


What is dark energy then? How did it come to existence? Who knows, if this had been the ending maybe that would've been a good purpose for a new game or a book or something.

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Dark energy theory does not makes any sense. If you have a little, very little understanding about how physics works irl.
i will stick with the ending we crrently have... maybe its not perfect, but its better than this one.

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People would have still complained... but less. I still vote for NO EXPLANATION. I really want the Reapers to stay a mystery. IT IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION!

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XTR3M3 wrote...

that could have allowed for true renegade and paragon choices. anything probably would have been better than the deus ex startbrat.


Exactly, this ending would have real paragon/renegade options in the end, ehile the current one has neither, the choices are all just stupid imo... Sure, depending on preference some endings are better than others.

Arsenic Touch wrote...

Dark energy > yo dawg I herd....


This is what I thought as well.

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Dry County wrote...

So the Reapers kill every other advanced civilization because...? They don't like competition? Maybe it would've been better in-game, but that explanation does nothing for me.


That was only a few sentences from Drew. Even the god-child had more sentencees to explain the current ending.

Or you don't like the dark energy premise at all?

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I like it better. Of course the bar wasn't set very high...

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Aleru wrote...

Dark energy theory does not makes any sense. If you have a little, very little understanding about how physics works irl.
i will stick with the ending we crrently have... maybe its not perfect, but its better than this one.


Well, mass effect in it self is completely stupid for anyone who has studied physics at any leven over basic really, and it's called Science FICTION for a reason, if everything was possible/plausable it wouldn't be called science fiction and we would all be driving flying cars...

BUT it can't be too unnatural either, that's just silly imo, so I understand your argument.

simfamSP wrote...

People would have still complained...
but less. I still vote for NO EXPLANATION. I really want the Reapers to
stay a mystery. IT IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION!


Sadly, they completely destroyed that in ME3 at a later stage of the game (spoiler free forum you know)

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so they created a race almost indestructible and dont know how to kill them?

Yo Dawg, to ensure you don't destroy the galaxy with dark energy we created devices that create so much dark energy that you can travel across the galaxy in hours without fuel, so you don't destroy the galaxy with dark energy!

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Aleru wrote...

Dark energy theory does not makes any sense. If you have a little, very little understanding about how physics works irl.
i will stick with the ending we crrently have... maybe its not perfect, but its better than this one.


What about element zero and FTL travel? What about a lot of WTF crap?

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It would still leave as many questions than answers.

If the reapers had been around for millions of years...obviously dark energy couldnt be THAT big of a problem as they've staved it off for just as long.

But then it would leave questions as to how the original race figured it out at first and why galactic genocide is the only answer rather than trying to be civilized and contact the emerging races and seeing what they can bring to the table

and why most other races dont notice it... and if the reapers ARE truly trying to stop it, why not leave clues about it in their technology so other races can try out their own methods... and so forth.

While i dont like the starchild either, neither explanation is really great. Especially since dark matter is only briefly mentioned in ME2 and rarely at all in ME1.

and in the end, people would still complain at the hopelessness of the ending and that shepard still would need to sacrifice his species as a whole or himself either way.

at least with what we have, he doesn't need to sacrifice the "soul" of his species.... not a grand ending mind you but there was going to be a dues ex machina in any event.

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simfamSP wrote...

People would have still complained... but less. I still vote for NO EXPLANATION. I really want the Reapers to stay a mystery. IT IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION!


Seconded.

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Dry County wrote...

So the Reapers kill every other advanced civilization because...? They don't like competition? Maybe it would've been better in-game, but that explanation does nothing for me.


Hive mind, the more minds the greater the intellect. The Reapers are forcing evolution in a race against dark matter which is the end of everything. Adding worthy civilisations to the collective, wiping the slate clean for the next evolution to take place. Mamals replacing reptiles but on a Galaxy wide scale.

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Aleru wrote...

Dark energy theory does not makes any sense. If you have a little, very little understanding about how physics works irl.
i will stick with the ending we crrently have... maybe its not perfect, but its better than this one.


Mass effect fields do not make any sense, if you have a little, very little understanding about how physics works irl.
Did you see what I did there? i can do it again if you want.

You are comparing the physics of science fiction to reality. Let that sink in for a moment.

The dark energy plot worked and made sense, they alluded to in the previous games and scrapped it for this train wreck.

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I still tell myself that the kid has been lied to and doesn't know the true purpose of Reapers.

No explanation = no truth. I'm kinda starting to like it. Guess I better start to imagine my games instead of playing.

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I would have liked the Dark Energy angle as well as the choice to either allow the Reapers to reap or to destroy the Reapers and let this races of this cycle tackle the Dark Energy situation (and possibly fail). I like it because I felt like it had been hinted at throughout the series and when it finally was presented the player would go back and find the subtle clues as to why this makes sense. Its a shame Drew was not tapped for ME3, but I did enjoy the class stories in SWTOR. Its a shame he has turned away from game writing though.

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Aleru wrote...

so they created a race almost indestructible and dont know how to kill them?

Yo Dawg, to ensure you don't destroy the galaxy with dark energy we created devices that create so much dark energy that you can travel across the galaxy in hours without fuel, so you don't destroy the galaxy with dark energy!


Well, that was obviously the best solution according to the race that invented the reapers in the dark energy theory. And where have you read that Reapers create dark energy?

EDIT: And I'm still not sure what you meant by what you wrote. Are you sure you got all facts straight?

Modifié par Sebbe1337o, 11 avril 2012 - 06:32 .