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[Harshfact]

kbct wrote...

Harshfact wrote...

kbct wrote...

Yeah, dark energy is f'n up the galaxy. The reapers can stop it with the help of additional reaper-ized races every 50K years. Or the organic races can destroy the reapers and the dark energy threat and call it a day.

Reapers have reperised god knows how many races with shi*load of time and have got nowhere and now humans reaper gene can magically fix that ?

There was something about the genetic diversity of this cycle being different from the rest. Maybe something comes from the synergy between all the races. I don't know.

I'm no Drew Karpyshyn so I expect his story would be much better. My point is there are plenty of options available if you go the "dark energy" route as planned by Drew, the lead writer for the much beloved ME1.

 I don't know man i love Drew but that doesn't mean he can be the best writer out there ... i don't care about how it owuld have played out and there are stuff about the Dark Energy route that's cool but my problem is with the backstory and the fact that it goes nowhere .... if you choose either ending ...however it would play out , it would leave with either "Well, no more Dark Energy live happily now" or "Dark Energy consumes everything you're fuc*ed" .. the issues raised in the current ending are eternal and interesting and there is no clear moral ground, with Dark Energy it's either of two those two with or without our current races

Modifié par Harshfact, 11 avril 2012 - 09:32 .

[Tazzmission]

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

this isnt trying to start a fight but i do recall 2 years ago people bashing the last me book drew wrote calling it garbage

i just think its funny they critisize one thing buy him and want him to do the ending

like i said not trying to fight but just showing how the bsn is the bsn really

Which book?

retribution


i remember alot of people just hated on it

and now they demand drew be back

the irony on this board just shocks me

[Cratto]

While this ending makes better use of the Reapers, I actually think as an idea it's pretty bad. On a par with the current ending (it could also have the same deus ex machine criticism as the current game with Casper the genocidal ghost). But that's as described here. In context and in execution it could have been good. Though I'm not convinced...

[BentOrgy]

Even more proof (As if we needed it.) that you NEVER change leads mid-project.

Ever.

[Rick Lewis]

"Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

Damn. Can we still have this as an option?

Modifié par Rick Lewis, 11 avril 2012 - 10:18 .

[Broughy1322]

Drew Karpyshyn is awesome. Loved the first three books and ME1 was the best story in my eyes. Shame he wasn't kept on for the rest of the games and the new "book".

[TheGreenAlloy]

We'd still have complaints, but not as many.

I mean, dark energy has been hinted at before. Synthetics rebelling against their creators is something we've learned was not the case...

I prefer the dark energy thingy.

[durasteel]

I think the most important thing would have been that Drew wouldn't have left the ending until the last minute. He's an experienced professional, and he would almost certainly have known the importance of the ending, and would have written it early enough to get some internal feedback and polish on in.

[Homebound]

Sebbe1337o wrote...

...ME3 would've ended like this. A lot better imo:

http://www.strategyi...ffect-3-endings

The original choice was between killing the Reapers and trying to find a
way to stop the Dark Energy threat with what little time was left
before it consumed the galaxy, or, "Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

****ing beautiful.

Modifié par Hellbound555, 11 avril 2012 - 10:46 .

[kbct]

durasteel wrote...

I think the most important thing would have been that Drew wouldn't have left the ending until the last minute. He's an experienced professional, and he would almost certainly have known the importance of the ending, and would have written it early enough to get some internal feedback and polish on in.

That's an excellent point. Write the ending early. And then vet it with the rest of the writting team.

[MegaBadExample]

I wish this guy had worked on ME3.

I get the feeling the man was very passionate about mass effect even though it ain't his job anymore.

[Homebound]

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

this isnt trying to start a fight but i do recall 2 years ago people bashing the last me book drew wrote calling it garbage

i just think its funny they critisize one thing buy him and want him to do the ending

like i said not trying to fight but just showing how the bsn is the bsn really

Which book?

retribution


i remember alot of people just hated on it

and now they demand drew be back

the irony on this board just shocks me

I thought that it screwed with the lore or something, and that it had to be rewritten.

no thats deception. it was written by that guy who screwed up Bungie's Halo novel.

[Sebbe1337o]

Rick Lewis wrote...

"Sacrifice humanity, allowing them to be horrifically processed in hopes that the end result will justify the means."

Damn. Can we still have this as an option?

Would be a cool option to have. Because we seriously don't have a disaster ending, other than dying before the end of course.

[TheGreenAlloy]

Hellbound555 wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

this isnt trying to start a fight but i do recall 2 years ago people bashing the last me book drew wrote calling it garbage

i just think its funny they critisize one thing buy him and want him to do the ending

like i said not trying to fight but just showing how the bsn is the bsn really

Which book?

retribution


i remember alot of people just hated on it

and now they demand drew be back

the irony on this board just shocks me

I thought that it screwed with the lore or something, and that it had to be rewritten.

no thats deception. it was written by that guy who screwed up Bungie's Halo novel.

The only bad part with Halo: The Flood was the Chief's parts, and how all the alien characters died 5 seconds after being introduced without a warning.

[Sebbe1337o]

TheGreenAlloy wrote...

Hellbound555 wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

this isnt trying to start a fight but i do recall 2 years ago people bashing the last me book drew wrote calling it garbage

i just think its funny they critisize one thing buy him and want him to do the ending

like i said not trying to fight but just showing how the bsn is the bsn really

Which book?

retribution


i remember alot of people just hated on it

and now they demand drew be back

the irony on this board just shocks me

I thought that it screwed with the lore or something, and that it had to be rewritten.

no thats deception. it was written by that guy who screwed up Bungie's Halo novel.

The only bad part with Halo: The Flood was the Chief's parts, and how all the alien characters died 5 seconds after being introduced without a warning.

I thought retribution was good. Revelation was the best by far though (mostly because of Saren).

[Xannerz]

I still don't like it. The Dark Energy idea seems dumb to me, maybe because the concept is underdeveloped - I don't know, but regardless I feel like the end result would still be the same.

Whenever I hear about this, I think of an army of Reapers with giant brooms just trying to brush out all the nasty DE in the galaxy.

[toolfan9284]

ME3 really took a different turn because Drew wasn't writing this. We had a story that gelled and flowed through the first two, obviously building to something...then Drew left, his ideas got scrapped and we got fed the starchild and crucible crap. ME3 just stands too far apart from the previous two, the story-line just lacks continuity. Shame.

[xMellowhype]

simfamSP wrote...

People would have still complained... but less. I still vote for NO EXPLANATION. I really want the Reapers to stay a mystery. IT IS BEYOND OUR COMPREHENSION!

Starchild made that all irrelevant. 

[MrTijger]

Uh...you folks do realise that Drew was co-lead with Walters on 2 and in fact, left halfway through ME 2?

[xZitx]

I am tired and not sure if I got the article right (not my native language, you see, so sorry for that!) but I've got a question that just popped into my head.
Let's assume this is the ending and it would be quite good/ok/whatever...

You would have two choices (which wouldn't have anything to do with your decisions, too?) -

A - Merging the human race (which is somehow superior because of their DNA; a special species after millenia and thousands of cycles - so many species, but, well..) with the Reapers, so that...What exactly? Why should they (or we) be the magic bullet? Cool, humans have special DNA, but that doesn't mean that the Reapers would suddenly have the knowledge or idea or whatever to stop DE, or am I missing something? Like I said, not my first language.
It would not be a very happy or nice ending, I think. Ignoring the fact that Shepard alone would have decided to basically kill all humans - for the greater good and whatnot, I know....

B - Scr*w the Reapers - Let the assembled species of the galaxy of this cycle try to solve this problem, which couldn't be solved by some machines who are indeed thousands of species combined and had millenia to work out a fix? Meh. Success chance is not very high, I think.

So. This ending would've left us with pretty much the same feeling of being crappy heroes - we didn't get the job done.

I mean, I don't want to ridicule this idea and everything, but I feel like there's a lot of Drew worshipping going on here. There's no way to say: "Walters and Hudson screwed up. Karpyshyn would've ROCKED the end!!!"
We'll never know and he deserved a chance to tell what he had in mind, but from what he says (and personally, I don't think that's fair, either. His statement is basically adding to the ****storm that's raining down on BioWare and ME, on a series he helped build. He's like the writer god and he wasn't there, so it all went bad - not that he said that, but he had different plans, yeah... I am sure he wouldn't want ME to fail but the timing isn't the best) this wasn't that good an idea, imho. I think it's very far-fetched and almost as illogical as the end we have now even if it was foreshadowed on Tali's mission and in ME1.
I think the Reapers got .... problematic. They had to be explained somehow, but it grew really complicated and so the ideas needed to be complicated (or not, idk) and in the end we got a supernatural starchild ending.

Modifié par xZitx, 12 avril 2012 - 01:48 .