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[ognick23]

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

[AJRimmsey]

ognick23 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

honkayjeezus wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Check out the other 6 threads on this after you're done.

I did that right before I did this one to save time.

so you knew in the others this whole thing was debunked as simply a blog post...but still reguritated again.

why ?

bloggers..the new roswell tin foil hat brigade of the 21st century

want some hits ?

find a volatile subject.....start a blog...add a few rumours...watch the hits flood in

agree, its a hot topic right now so people are gonna throw in their 2 cents for some quick exposure

couple a months and it`ll be a new topic of "the sky is falling".

unless we have a hot summer,and then most will be on the beachs while the frothing ranters all end up here alone spitting venom at empty screens

[kbct]

Darth Malice113 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

XTR3M3 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

honkayjeezus wrote...

Rogue Unit wrote...

Check out the other 6 threads on this after you're done.

I did that right before I did this one to save time.

so you knew in the others this whole thing was debunked as simply a blog post...but still reguritated again.

why ?

bloggers..the new roswell tin foil hat brigade of the 21st century

want some hits ?

find a volatile subject.....start a blog...add a few rumours...watch the hits flood in

EAware...the new evil empire of the 21st century

want some sales?

find a good company making a good product...take over said company and product.....engage in false advertising and day 1 DLC.....watch the money flood in

one more thing....bleed that company dry....let it die....move on to the next one

Oh look, Rimmsey got a kitty.

I thought it was Rimmsey and his best friend as well.

[AJRimmsey]

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

yikes...you just injected reason into the thread

quick..don the asbestos underpants of tharg ..flame retardant +100


reason = troll here.....prepare to be knighted

Modifié par AJRimmsey, 11 avril 2012 - 07:05 .

[ognick23]

AJRimmsey wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

yikes...you just injected reason into the thread

quick..don the asbestos underpants of tharg ..flame retardant +100


reason = troll here.....prepare to be knighted

lol ive seen some new commers here get eaten alive because they didnt agree but im not scared of these guys im a seasoned vet now

[i IIVIIorpheus]

AJRimmsey wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

yikes...you just injected reason into the thread

quick..don the asbestos underpants of tharg ..flame retardant +100


reason = troll here.....prepare to be knighted

Yes...reason = people who parrot the ending and attack those who don't.

Yep...."reason".....

[BeefoTheBold]

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

Yes, I'm sure Bioware loves the idea of your telling their customers to go away.

You're missing the point. People bought their products based on key items that their products were set to include. They were, in essence, tricked/lied to about the value proposition.

[AkiKishi]

paxxton wrote...

The single proof BioWare/EA has to show to refute BBB's claim is to define Mass Effect 3 as a full game AND a set of DLC.

That brings up a whole other pile of rocks to throw.

[AJRimmsey]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

Yes, I'm sure Bioware loves the idea of your telling their customers to go away.

You're missing the point. People bought their products based on key items that their products were set to include. They were, in essence, tricked/lied to about the value proposition.

totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama

[BellatrixLugosi]

BeefoTheBold wrote...

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

Yes, I'm sure Bioware loves the idea of your telling their customers to go away.

You're missing the point. People bought their products based on key items that their products were set to include. They were, in essence, tricked/lied to about the value proposition.

I have alot of game boxes, they all make alot of ridiculous promises on the boxes, half which don't actually reflect what's in the product, Bioware is no different then other developers, just more obsessed/Fanatical players

Modifié par BellatrixLugosi, 11 avril 2012 - 07:38 .

[Vormaerin]

The funny thing is that she bases her conclusions on statements that aren't actually false. The false statements would be that the endings weren't going to be A, B, C.

You can certainly craft your own unique experiences and your decisions certainly determine the ending, though not in the way that was expected. Namely, our decisions during gameplay resolved various secondary story arcs and *then* we got an A, B, C choice for the finale.

Did this person actually play the game? Does she know what choice and unique experience means in the context of a game? Because there are obvious limits to those things inherent in the medium. But within the context of those limits, Bioware certainly did deliver on everything except the "No A, B, C" ending. Which was not actually in any advertising, but rather something one of the devs said, IIRC.

[Tirigon]

It baffles me that there is a bureau dedicated to unveiling Marketing lies.

Marketing is lying by definition, although I admit that it is rarely as bad as with Mass Effect 3.

[Rodney Chongo]

[quote]AJRimmsey wrote...


[/quote]

"totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama"

[/quote]

But you are moaning about it. You've been moaning about it this whole thread.

Modifié par Rodney Chongo, 11 avril 2012 - 07:25 .

[Vormaerin]

Marketing is about exaggeration. There are legal definitions of false advertising. Bioware came nowhere close to those. Even with the qualification of using "technically" (which is usually used to mean "I suppose in a very literalist sense, but not in a common sense or practical usage"), her conclusion is dubious.

[TRISTAN WERBE]

ah yes

[OutlawTorn6806]

Nice flamebait and misleading title.

[Aesieru]

YOU WANT A LINK TO THE BBB?!

http://www.bbb.org/b...etter-or-worse/

Modifié par Aesieru, 11 avril 2012 - 07:31 .

[Sir Bum]

I'm starting to rather enjoy the ****strom that EA and Bioware have kicked up. Kind of serves 'em right, when you think about it.


P.S.:I can't help but notice that most of the trolls in this thread have deplorable English.

[XTR3M3]

[quote]Rodney Chongo wrote...

[quote]AJRimmsey wrote...


[/quote]

"totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama"

[/quote]

"But you are moaning about it. You've been moaning about it this whole thread."

[/quote]

lol EXACTLY. they are having a nerd rand complaining about a nerd rant. no wonder they liked the ending. It uses the same circular logic they do!

as consumers, we have every right to protest the product that was BLATANTLY misrepreseted. EAware's blatant misrepresentation of the ME3 ending was every bit as bad as rolling back an odometer on a used car and claiming "actual miles".

Modifié par XTR3M3, 11 avril 2012 - 07:33 .

[digby69]

@AJRimmsey I take it you're family have shares in EA or your mum works for Bioware

[DaJe]

ognick23 wrote...

lol its funny to me to see people talk about EA and Bioware like your forced to buy their products lol they arent selling stuff that is necessary to live so if you dont like the way they do business then leave and never look back, you wont miss us and we wont miss u here on BSN lol

It's about loss.
Imagine you favourite greek restaurant turned into another Mc Donalds.
You are not forced to eat there either but something you liked was removed from existance.

[Tirigon]

AJRimmsey wrote...

"totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama"

But if you dont "moan" about it, then how should the creator learn and improve?

You and the others who defend BioWare are using the logic of a pupil that is angry at a teacher for criticising his homework and says "I put much work into it, you must accept it".

Sure you did, I believe that, but it doesnt change the fact your result sucked, and you should accept it if you want to improve.

Stomping your foot and saying that you are right will only result in your next homework failing as well.

[XTR3M3]

Tirigon wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

"totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama"

But if you dont "moan" about it, then how should the creator learn and improve?

You and the others who defend BioWare are using the logic of a pupil that is angry at a teacher for criticising his homework and says "I put much work into it, you must accept it".

Sure you did, I believe that, but it doesnt change the fact your result sucked, and you should accept it if you want to improve.

Stomping your foot and saying that you are right will only result in your next homework failing as well.

nice analogy.

off topic but in your sig it says Legion with the "girls". Was Legion female? I don't remember that. just curious why you included Legion. I (admittedly maybe mistakenly) have always assigned a male pronoun to....it?

[Il Divo]

Tirigon wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

"totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama"

But if you dont "moan" about it, then how should the creator learn and improve?

You and the others who defend BioWare are using the logic of a pupil that is angry at a teacher for criticising his homework and says "I put much work into it, you must accept it".

Sure you did, I believe that, but it doesnt change the fact your result sucked, and you should accept it if you want to improve.

Stomping your foot and saying that you are right will only result in your next homework failing as well.

I've used this example a good number of times myself. Bioware is completely free to ignore this outcry and move onto ME4 or DA3 or whatever. Similar to how a student can refuse to change his work. But you also bear full responsibilities for the consequences of that decision. Personally, I don't think this would destroy Bioware, but if it does, they can't complain any more than a student who gets a failing grade for refusing to alter his vision. The market is rarely fair in deciding what does and doesn't succeed.

[BellatrixLugosi]

Tirigon wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

"totally agree.

if i buy anything thats not as advertised i return it to store and get a refund.

i dont however keep moaning about it and try to get the manufacturer to tailor it to my needs/wants.

thats the point your brain has just totally rejected,because it involves far less drama"

But if you dont "moan" about it, then how should the creator learn and improve?

You and the others who defend BioWare are using the logic of a pupil that is angry at a teacher for criticising his homework and says "I put much work into it, you must accept it".

Sure you did, I believe that, but it doesnt change the fact your result sucked, and you should accept it if you want to improve.

Stomping your foot and saying that you are right will only result in your next homework failing as well.

Maybe people should stop trying to use Analogies for this sort of thing?