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[Ronin1325]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

masterthehero wrote...

The only thing worse than trolling fans who troll forums like morons, are intelligent fans who would report Bioware to the BBB just because of an ****g ending.

In my opinion, the second you report BioWare to the BBB or the FTC or start threatening a lawsuit over the ending not being what you wanted, you lose the "intelligent" in front of "fans".

Most of us Retakers are upset because the game was not what was advertised to us. And the BBB agrees- "The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise?  Technically, yes, they did."  This is from a high-level member of the BBB on her blog.

You can dismiss the BBB if you wish, but their job is to research exactly what Retakers have been claiming since day one. They are experts in the realm of false advertising. So this is major evidence that we were right all along.

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

Those are two completely separate issues that you are trying to lump together. BioWare, and EA for that matter, are not affiliated with the BBB because the BBB only gives good ratings to people who PAY to be affiliated with them. They can say whatever they want, that BioWare falsely advertised, that BioWare stole their wallet, that BioWare never got them a pony for their birthday... it doesn't mean one. Damn. Thing.

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

[Tazzmission]

LegendaryBlade wrote...

XTR3M3 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

XTR3M3 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

This is good. The ending went against almost everything Bioware and the ME series itself have been telling us. The conclusions we get to choose from are not in line of the game's advertisements and message.

At least now we know that this can't happen without some serious criticism.

exactly. great point even with those trying to derail this topic.

no its not good.

can you honestly say these guy deserve to lose there jobs?

at what point did I say they should lose their jobs? the poster says basically it will be harder to get away with lying to the public about your product without significant criticism. I agreed with that. How does that equate to me, or him for that matter, wanting them to loose their jobs?

If in the future, that makes them lose their jobs, that is their own fault for continuing to use practices that ****** off their fanbase and thus damage their product politically and economically.

edited for sp...ack..

Protip, arguing with Tazz tends to go no where quickly. He has no idea what he's talking about, and tends to drop one response in order to say something completely different.

Like his response to you right now. He clearly has no idea what the difference between a legitiment advertising complain is and one based on moralty of the content.

says the guy who refuses to comment on someone being terminated

im still waiting on that mr smart guy who apprently knows everything

[Ronin1325]

Tazzmission wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

so you believe everything the news says?


what ever happened to gaming being fun instead of a cryfest?

Well apparently Tazzmission, you believe everything EA/Bioware says...

[kbct]

Tazzmission wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

so you believe everything the news says?

what ever happened to gaming being fun instead of a cryfest?

Good stuff is happening because of the "cryfest." Look at what LegendaryBlade wrote on this page:

LegendaryBlade wrote...

I saw an article where one of the writers for Dragonage III said they were going to "pay close attention to the endings" or something along those lines. So yeah, Bioware has taken notice if an entirely seperate team saw the backlash as something worth reacting too.

I don't want BioWare to lose their jobs. I want them to change for the better.

[Jademoon121]

Tazzmission wrote...

XTR3M3 wrote...

Jademoon121 wrote...

This is good. The ending went against almost everything Bioware and the ME series itself have been telling us. The conclusions we get to choose from are not in line of the game's advertisements and message.

At least now we know that this can't happen without some serious criticism.

exactly. great point even with those trying to derail this topic.

no its not good.

can you honestly say these guy deserve to lose there jobs?

No one's saying anything about employment; just advertising practices.

[Tazzmission]

L00p wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

Just report him. He has done this sh!t before and he is doing it again now - he will not listen to your being reasonable any way you put it. Let the mods take care of it.

report him for what? actually calling your bs out?

i guess in your mind only the retake movement is always correct right? i mean afterall people who oppose you are just trolls right?

[XTR3M3]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Tirigon wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...


Seriously? LOTS of people are actively rooting for BioWare to fail. I don't even get how you can think that there aren't. It's clear in threads just like this one, you'll see people rooting for it.

That is because many people - me included - are severely butthurt.

but very few are actually serious about that.

I'm sure that would come as great solace to the families of anyone who would be fired over BioWare being forced to shut down.

"But very few were serious about that."

It is ridiculous to insinuate that those of us who think we were lied to, blatantly misrepresented, less than truthful marketed, ect will be responsible for destroying BioWare and putting people out of work simply by posting in their forums. (that is all most of us do in regards to this btw) I thought we were the "vocal minority"....or are we now recognized as the majority? How could a vocal minority ruin BioWare if EVERYONE else loves it?....you know...the ones that will continue to buy BioWare products?

<_<...typical PR damage control. "make them feel sorry for the company's employees or make the company the victim"

[Father_Jerusalem]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

masterthehero wrote...

The only thing worse than trolling fans who troll forums like morons, are intelligent fans who would report Bioware to the BBB just because of an ****g ending.

In my opinion, the second you report BioWare to the BBB or the FTC or start threatening a lawsuit over the ending not being what you wanted, you lose the "intelligent" in front of "fans".

Most of us Retakers are upset because the game was not what was advertised to us. And the BBB agrees- "The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise?  Technically, yes, they did."  This is from a high-level member of the BBB on her blog.

You can dismiss the BBB if you wish, but their job is to research exactly what Retakers have been claiming since day one. They are experts in the realm of false advertising. So this is major evidence that we were right all along.

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

Those are two completely separate issues that you are trying to lump together. BioWare, and EA for that matter, are not affiliated with the BBB because the BBB only gives good ratings to people who PAY to be affiliated with them. They can say whatever they want, that BioWare falsely advertised, that BioWare stole their wallet, that BioWare never got them a pony for their birthday... it doesn't mean one. Damn. Thing.

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

SPOILER TIME, SUCKAS!

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS:
Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you
destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you
control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard
can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices
save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get
vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800  to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics,  and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You
can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath,
whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

But yes, no, completely A, B, C, right?

[Father_Jerusalem]

L00p wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

Just report him. He has done this sh!t before and he is doing it again now - he will not listen to your being reasonable any way you put it. Let the mods take care of it.

Go right ahead and report me. Please. I'll beg if I have to.

[kbct]

L00p wrote...

Just report him. He has done this sh!t before and he is doing it again now - he will not listen to your being reasonable any way you put it. Let the mods take care of it.

Not my style to report anyone. I just roll with the punches. Heh.

[Tazzmission]

Ronin1325 wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

so you believe everything the news says?


what ever happened to gaming being fun instead of a cryfest?

Well apparently Tazzmission, you believe everything EA/Bioware says...

actually no i dont. im more realistic and i dont sit here everyday and cry conspiracy around every corner

learn to read my post history before you suggest otherwise and you'll see where i stand

[Tirigon]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...


I'm sure that would come as great solace to the families of anyone who would be fired over BioWare being forced to shut down.

"But very few were serious about that."

Compnaies dont close because of fans but because of managers.

Should they decide such a step it would not be our fault.

[Abirn]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

masterthehero wrote...

The only thing worse than trolling fans who troll forums like morons, are intelligent fans who would report Bioware to the BBB just because of an ****g ending.

In my opinion, the second you report BioWare to the BBB or the FTC or start threatening a lawsuit over the ending not being what you wanted, you lose the "intelligent" in front of "fans".

Most of us Retakers are upset because the game was not what was advertised to us. And the BBB agrees- "The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise?  Technically, yes, they did."  This is from a high-level member of the BBB on her blog.

You can dismiss the BBB if you wish, but their job is to research exactly what Retakers have been claiming since day one. They are experts in the realm of false advertising. So this is major evidence that we were right all along.

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

Those are two completely separate issues that you are trying to lump together. BioWare, and EA for that matter, are not affiliated with the BBB because the BBB only gives good ratings to people who PAY to be affiliated with them. They can say whatever they want, that BioWare falsely advertised, that BioWare stole their wallet, that BioWare never got them a pony for their birthday... it doesn't mean one. Damn. Thing.

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

SPOILER TIME, SUCKAS!

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS:
Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you
destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you
control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard
can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices
save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get
vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800  to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics,  and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You
can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath,
whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

But yes, no, completely A, B, C, right?

This is like saying that there are over 6 billion different species of humans because each one of us technically has different DNA patterns. 


Save, destroy, merge.... 3 endings.  A, B, C

[Heimdall]

"Experience the beginning, middle, and end of an emotional story unlike any other, where the decisions you make completely[/i] shape your experience and outcome."

What the hell?  There is nothing technically false about this statement.  Bioware provided at least as much ability to "craft a unique experience" in ME3 as the did in the prior games.  Even the ending was the result of the player's choice of three options.

"Along the way, your choices drive powerful outcomes, including relationships with key characters, the fate of entire civilizations, and even radically different ending scenarios."

Nothing objectively false about this one either, the endings do have radically different consequences for the galaxy.  Technological Dark Age?  Shepard as the Reaper God?  A Galaxy full of Borg/Cylons?  How can anyone possibly argue that these are essentially the same even if the actual cinematic is similar?

Modifié par Lord Aesir, 11 avril 2012 - 09:50 .

[Tazzmission]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

L00p wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

Just report him. He has done this sh!t before and he is doing it again now - he will not listen to your being reasonable any way you put it. Let the mods take care of it.

Go right ahead and report me. Please. I'll beg if I have to.

i find it funny the internet is there source of power and yet they were all hush hush as a church mouse at pax

i guess trash talking is easier online for people then in person eh?

Modifié par Tazzmission, 11 avril 2012 - 09:49 .

[Father_Jerusalem]

Tirigon wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...


I'm sure that would come as great solace to the families of anyone who would be fired over BioWare being forced to shut down.

"But very few were serious about that."

Compnaies dont close because of fans but because of managers.

Should they decide such a step it would not be our fault.

So, you harrass BioWare, filing complaints with the BBB and FTC, sue them, post slanderous billboards by EA headquarters, review bomb their games on Amazon and Metacritic, try to get people banned who disagree with you so that you can turn these boards into even MORE of a festering cesspool...

But it's not your fault.

Got it.

[LegendaryBlade]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

masterthehero wrote...

The only thing worse than trolling fans who troll forums like morons, are intelligent fans who would report Bioware to the BBB just because of an ****g ending.

In my opinion, the second you report BioWare to the BBB or the FTC or start threatening a lawsuit over the ending not being what you wanted, you lose the "intelligent" in front of "fans".

Most of us Retakers are upset because the game was not what was advertised to us. And the BBB agrees- "The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise?  Technically, yes, they did."  This is from a high-level member of the BBB on her blog.

You can dismiss the BBB if you wish, but their job is to research exactly what Retakers have been claiming since day one. They are experts in the realm of false advertising. So this is major evidence that we were right all along.

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

Those are two completely separate issues that you are trying to lump together. BioWare, and EA for that matter, are not affiliated with the BBB because the BBB only gives good ratings to people who PAY to be affiliated with them. They can say whatever they want, that BioWare falsely advertised, that BioWare stole their wallet, that BioWare never got them a pony for their birthday... it doesn't mean one. Damn. Thing.

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

SPOILER TIME, SUCKAS!

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS:
Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you
destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you
control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard
can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices
save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get
vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800  to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics,  and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You
can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath,
whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

But yes, no, completely A, B, C, right?

-You can destroy the reapers
-You can control the reapers
-You can do Synthesis

Three endings, A,B,C, with very small content changes. Content changes which hardly affect the outcome. The Shepard 'lives' scene is only a few seconds long and, as far as anyone can tell, has no affect on your save. Whether or not Earth is destroyed seems to be the only constant variable.

So three endings, two variables. Even the game they ripped off, Deus Ex: Human Revolution, had more variables in the closing dialogue than that. Jenson talks about how he always tried to do the right thing, or how he spared every life he came across(pacifist), or etc.

[Canned Bullets]

Tazzmission wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

L00p wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

Just report him. He has done this sh!t before and he is doing it again now - he will not listen to your being reasonable any way you put it. Let the mods take care of it.

Go right ahead and report me. Please. I'll beg if I have to.

i find it funny the internet is there source of power and yet they were all hush hush as a church mouse at pax

i guess trash talking is easier online for people then in person eh?

My guess is that only the asskissers showed up for the Bioware meeting.

[kbct]

Ronin1325 wrote...

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

The BBB blog (why do I always want to type BBC?) only analyzed a couple sentences. There are A LOT of perceived misstatements to consider.

[Father_Jerusalem]

Abirn wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

masterthehero wrote...

The only thing worse than trolling fans who troll forums like morons, are intelligent fans who would report Bioware to the BBB just because of an ****g ending.

In my opinion, the second you report BioWare to the BBB or the FTC or start threatening a lawsuit over the ending not being what you wanted, you lose the "intelligent" in front of "fans".

Most of us Retakers are upset because the game was not what was advertised to us. And the BBB agrees- "The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise?  Technically, yes, they did."  This is from a high-level member of the BBB on her blog.

You can dismiss the BBB if you wish, but their job is to research exactly what Retakers have been claiming since day one. They are experts in the realm of false advertising. So this is major evidence that we were right all along.

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

Those are two completely separate issues that you are trying to lump together. BioWare, and EA for that matter, are not affiliated with the BBB because the BBB only gives good ratings to people who PAY to be affiliated with them. They can say whatever they want, that BioWare falsely advertised, that BioWare stole their wallet, that BioWare never got them a pony for their birthday... it doesn't mean one. Damn. Thing.

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

SPOILER TIME, SUCKAS!

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS:
Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you
destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you
control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard
can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices
save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get
vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800  to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics,  and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You
can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath,
whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

But yes, no, completely A, B, C, right?

This is like saying that there are over 6 billion different species of humans because each one of us technically has different DNA patterns. 


Save, destroy, merge.... 3 endings.  A, B, C

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H. And that's if you saved the Collector's Base. If you destroyed it, there's a different set of variables.

So...

I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P.

But no, I totally get where you're coming from.

AGAIN: your expectations =/= BioWare lied.

[John Epler]

That's enough bickering. Let's cut it out.

[Tazzmission]

Canned Bullets wrote...

Tazzmission wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

L00p wrote...

kbct wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

According to BBB:

"The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise? Technically, yes, they did."

So, you're "technically" wrong.

Just report him. He has done this sh!t before and he is doing it again now - he will not listen to your being reasonable any way you put it. Let the mods take care of it.

Go right ahead and report me. Please. I'll beg if I have to.

i find it funny the internet is there source of power and yet they were all hush hush as a church mouse at pax

i guess trash talking is easier online for people then in person eh?

My guess is that only the asskissers showed up for the Bioware meeting.

id rather be a buttkisser than some wannabe fake movement that has done nothing but cast a dark cloud over the gaming community

[LegendaryBlade]

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Abirn wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

Ronin1325 wrote...

Father_Jerusalem wrote...

masterthehero wrote...

The only thing worse than trolling fans who troll forums like morons, are intelligent fans who would report Bioware to the BBB just because of an ****g ending.

In my opinion, the second you report BioWare to the BBB or the FTC or start threatening a lawsuit over the ending not being what you wanted, you lose the "intelligent" in front of "fans".

Most of us Retakers are upset because the game was not what was advertised to us. And the BBB agrees- "The issue at stake here is, did Bio Ware falsely advertise?  Technically, yes, they did."  This is from a high-level member of the BBB on her blog.

You can dismiss the BBB if you wish, but their job is to research exactly what Retakers have been claiming since day one. They are experts in the realm of false advertising. So this is major evidence that we were right all along.

The game is precisely as it was advertised to be. The problem is, it wasn't what you WANTED it to be.

Those are two completely separate issues that you are trying to lump together. BioWare, and EA for that matter, are not affiliated with the BBB because the BBB only gives good ratings to people who PAY to be affiliated with them. They can say whatever they want, that BioWare falsely advertised, that BioWare stole their wallet, that BioWare never got them a pony for their birthday... it doesn't mean one. Damn. Thing.

So it was advertised that we wouldn't get an "ABC" ending, whoops, we got that. It was advertised that we wouldn't all get funneled down to the same 'bespoke' ending, whoops, that happened too. Making pedandtic declarations seems to be what you're good at, as well as ignoring all evidence that you're wrong.

Oh, and now you're accusing the BBB of being corrupt, and critizing Bioware... just because? Don't assume that everyone works on your flawed argumentation levels Father_Jerusalem.

SPOILER TIME, SUCKAS!

0 to 1,749 EMS: Your only choice is to destroy the Reapers. Earth is destroyed.

1,750 to 1,899 EMS:
Shepard can choose to destroy the Reapers, or control them. If you
destroy the Reapers, Earth is destroyed in the process as well. If you
control the Reapers, Earth is devastated but not destroyed.

1,900 to 2,349 EMS: Shepard
can choose between destroying and controlling Reapers. Both choices
save earth, and humanity survives, however Earth's buildings still get
vaporized.

2,350 to 2,649 EMS: Shepard can control Reapers, and save Earth

2,650 to 2,799 EMS: Shepard can destroy Reapers, and save Earth. Shepard Dies.

2,800  to 3,999 EMS: Shepard is able to create a link between Synthetics and Organics,  and Earth and the Galaxy are saved

4,000 to 4,999 EMS: You can destroy the Reapers and Earth is saved. If you shot TIM on time and saved Anderson, Shepard breathes (Survives).

5,000+ EMS: You
can destroy all Reapers. Earth saved as well. Shepard will breath,
whether you attempted to save Anderson or not. (Perfect Ending)

But yes, no, completely A, B, C, right?

This is like saying that there are over 6 billion different species of humans because each one of us technically has different DNA patterns. 


Save, destroy, merge.... 3 endings.  A, B, C

A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H. And that's if you saved the Collector's Base. If you destroyed it, there's a different set of variables.

So...

I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P.

But no, I totally get where you're coming from.

AGAIN: your expectations =/= BioWare lied.

Collector base has absolutely no bearing on the ending outside of an effect on the point value. I'm talking about the ending, not your endgame score.

Three endings. Two variables. If you want to count variables as endings, than Dragonage Origins literally had 100+ endings. Infact, ME3 really should of taken inspiration from Origins, that's an ending done right.