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[Antaresss]

The Geth Infiltrators have a passive skill (Networked AI) which increases their damage with geth weapons. The question here is: do they get a damage bonus if they use the M-98 Widow? If the players pay attention, they will see that in ME3's description, the Widow is called a "geth weapon". We also see that the geth have been using it for hundreds of years (in the mission in the geth server). Yet, we can not be sure if the game considers it a geth weapon or not when you play as geth in MP. Also, it doesn't look like the other geth weapons at all (although this can be explained since the Widow seems to be an older model). It is possible to be of quarian origin too. We can do tests but I would prefer if a Bioware member answers my question so we can be sure, thanks.

[Garrubrations]

Pretty sure the only "Geth" weapons are the geth plasma shotgun, geth plasma smg, geth pulse rifle and the javalin.

[kieran.me]

the widow is NOT a geth weapon

for starters it doesn't look geth
second it's quarian
third it's human adapted for shepherd so he don't break an arm

the black widow is human made

ONLY the GPR, GPS, GPSmg and the javelin are geth weapons

[Apl_Juice]

The entire descriptions explains that the model we use in MP is adapted from the original Geth model so that anyone can use it.

So answer is: probably not.

[Atmospeer]

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

[Vespervin]

No, it's not a Geth weapon anymore. The only Geth sniper rifle is the Javelin.

[kieran.me]

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

funny, a lot of modded cars don't look like the factory models

[Atmospeer]

kieran.me wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

funny, a lot of modded cars don't look like the factory models

It looks exactly the same as the Geth version, bad analogy.

[a ViciousFerret]

Antaresss wrote...

The Geth Infiltrators have a passive skill (Networked AI) which increases their damage with geth weapons. The question here is: do they get a damage bonus if they use the M-98 Widow? If the players pay attention, they will see that in ME3's description, the Widow is called a "geth weapon". We also see that the geth have been using it for hundreds of years (in the mission in the geth server). Yet, we can not be sure if the game considers it a geth weapon or not when you play as geth in MP. Also, it doesn't look like the other geth weapons at all (although this can be explained since the Widow seems to be an older model). It is possible to be of quarian origin too. We can do tests but I would prefer if a Bioware member answers my question so we can be sure, thanks.

Forget the mission. Legion made it so when Shepard interfaced, he'd see things the way his brain would interpert. (Thus why Quarians had their mask)

[N Malboeuf]

geth/human riffle in ME2
more human mods in ME3 as far as I can tell, dont have the black widow so not sure who added more mods

[kieran.me]

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

funny, a lot of modded cars don't look like the factory models

It looks exactly the same as the Geth version, bad analogy.

it looks like thw widow which isn't geth, it's quarian and we have no idea if the visuals are human or quarian all we know is it's not geth

the black widow is human and the widow looks very much like the black widow, quite possibly the widow is human visually

[woody60707]

No.

Yes the M-98 widow is back engineered from a Geth sniper. But the M-98 window is redesigned by organics. If I knew how to bold the word redesigned, I would have.

[Crimzoneyed]

Now we need a new weapon!

M-98 Widow Original

[theronac]

Its not Geth rifle
*SPOILER AHEAD*
Legion's response when Shepard noticed the rifle Legion used:
"That is an efficient model"

[BloodClaw95]

kieran.me wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

funny, a lot of modded cars don't look like the factory models

It looks exactly the same as the Geth version, bad analogy.

it looks like thw widow which isn't geth, it's quarian and we have no idea if the visuals are human or quarian all we know is it's not geth

the black widow is human and the widow looks very much like the black widow, quite possibly the widow is human visually

"Several research firms spent a considerable fortune trying to redesign
the Widow sniper rifle. Their goal was to retain the geth weapon's
considerable firepower while reducing its recoil, so that the gun could
be fired without breaking a nonsynthetic's arm. After much trial and
error, one company finally produced a usable model rolled out to the
galactic market.
"

[Taleroth]

Yeah, the description of the Black Widow implies that it's the only Widow that isn't Geth manufactured.

It doesn't state that. It doesn't say "only one." But the implication exists. It'd be nice to have official data or some testing.

Modifié par Taleroth, 11 avril 2012 - 09:57 .

[SpiffyNova]

Just going to ask a question, in case it is written somewhere that I have not read, but what proof do we have that the Widow is of Quarian design?
The Quarians had already made contact with the council by the time of the geth rebellion, so they could have gotten their weapons from anywhere. I'm not saying that it can't be Quarian, but some hard evidence would be good.

[vasht]

according to the canon it is a old quarian weapon re purposed by the geth.

[Xceptopec]

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

It is not a modified weapon, it is a redesigned and rebuilt variant - same as the  Black Widow.

[TANK 2old2play]

The M98-Widow is NOT a geth weapon, it's an alliance weapon BASED ON a Geth sniper rifle.

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

BloodClaw95 wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

Atmospeer wrote...

kieran.me wrote...

for starters it doesn't look geth

Funny, considering it is a modified Geth sniper rifle.

funny, a lot of modded cars don't look like the factory models

It looks exactly the same as the Geth version, bad analogy.

it looks like thw widow which isn't geth, it's quarian and we have no idea if the visuals are human or quarian all we know is it's not geth

the black widow is human and the widow looks very much like the black widow, quite possibly the widow is human visually

"Several research firms spent a considerable fortune trying to redesign
the Widow sniper rifle. Their goal was to retain the geth weapon's
considerable firepower while reducing its recoil, so that the gun could
be fired without breaking a nonsynthetic's arm. After much trial and
error, one company finally produced a usable model rolled out to the
galactic market.
"

Was going to quote that myself. No the M-98 is not Geth designed. M-98 is a variant of the Geth model. In ME3 it is indicated that the Widow was originally Quarian engineered when Shepard mentions that the rifle picked up by the first Geth to rebel looks similar to the rifle Legion carries in ME2. Most likely, the Geth took the Widow, made it stronger and then we made our own variant.

[Smugglers Luck]

These two snippets are taken from the Mass Effect Wiki:

- In both the Mass Effect 2 research project and the Mass Effect 3 in-game description, the rifle is referred to as being of geth origin, yet geth snipers do not use this weapon; only Legion is seen wielding it. In addition, during the mission Rannoch: Geth Fighter Squadrons, one of the geth memories from the original geth uprising shows a unit picking up the M-98 Widow; when Shepard remarks that it is the same weapon Legion used, Legion extrapolates that it is "an efficient model." While its presence during the conflict implies that it may be of quarian design, the exact origins of the rifle are unknown.

- The Black Widow is an Alliance variant of the Widow.

Now, stop speculating/ guessing, get off the thread and I won't have to waste a bullet on you. Please.

But I joke. Hope this clears up the confusion.

[Antaresss]

vasht wrote...

according to the canon it is a old quarian weapon re purposed by the geth.

Which "canon" exactly. Give some source or I dont believe you.

[LegacyOfTheAsh]

Smugglers Luck wrote...

These two snippets are taken from the Mass Effect Wiki:

- In both the Mass Effect 2 research project and the Mass Effect 3 in-game description, the rifle is referred to as being of geth origin, yet geth snipers do not use this weapon; only Legion is seen wielding it. In addition, during the mission Rannoch: Geth Fighter Squadrons, one of the geth memories from the original geth uprising shows a unit picking up the M-98 Widow; when Shepard remarks that it is the same weapon Legion used, Legion extrapolates that it is "an efficient model." While its presence during the conflict implies that it may be of quarian design, the exact origins of the rifle are unknown.

- The Black Widow is an Alliance variant of the Widow.

Now, stop speculating/ guessing, get off the thread and I won't have to waste a bullet on you. Please.

But I joke. Hope this clears up the confusion.

Damn straight. On a side note; I smiled really wide and said "Oh $###!" to myself when Legion pretty much confirmed he was there.

[TheLostGenius]

its explained in game that it is a modified version of the Geth Rifle.