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[Taritu]

Loosemoose wrote...

Seneva wrote...

Yes. Dog can use the Tome of Technique

Dogs can read books? 

That dog is smarter than some of the human companions...

[phordicus]

Pennoyer wrote...

I hate dogs so I never save the mongrel.

mabari are in all likelihood as pure a breed as you can get.  genetically speaking, it is much more probable that you are, in fact, the mongrel.

[Gecon]

JJM152 wrote...

Well also obviously, a Rogue shouldn't be able to beat a massive armored warrior in a straight up fight either.

A fight with a Rogue is NEVER a straight up fight.

[barryl89]

Aw I can't wait to try that on next play through



Oh and its a straight match of skill versus power, a duelist in my case versus a walking metal heap, realistically Logain shouldn't get a point of damage on the rogue though it might take the rogue a few hours to wear down the defense.

[kevinwastaken]

barryl89 wrote...

Aw I can't wait to try that on next play through

Oh and its a straight match of skill versus power, a duelist in my case versus a walking metal heap, realistically Logain shouldn't get a point of damage on the rogue though it might take the rogue a few hours to wear down the defense.

No way, plate armor is full of chinks and seams which a dagger could easily slip through. It's like taking money out of the ATM, except you use your dagger instead of a debit card and guts come out instead of money.

[Dasim4]

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

Belnorab wrote...

Price of a serious gaming rig:  $4,000.00

Price of Dragon Age Origins Collector's Edition:  $70.00

3) Select Dog as your champion.   Priceless

You're really high-balling it with that $4k price tag... try $1000.

I'd like to see this mystical $1000 Serious Gaming Rig  of yours.  And in the description of your rig the words "I already have" don't count.

Modifié par Dasim4, 08 décembre 2009 - 04:38 .

[T0paze]

ROFL

Just saw the video on Youtube after browsing this thread. That scene with the dog is priceless.

I also don't see how they would allow Shale to fight Loghain. But maybe that was because he himself was willing, so nobody objected.

Everyone else is pretty much fine. It's obvious that though there are some rules, such single combats are not restricted to humans or warriors only. Using potions and other accessories seemed a bit unfair, though, so I did not resort to them. I also didn't use Blood Magic, because, well, it would be something to cast Blood Wound in front of the Grand Cleric.

As for the tactics, well, warriors may probably have a hard time with Loghain. I can see how rogues can do much better. Mages can simply own him - he has crappy resistances and, in most cases, can't even get past a simple Glyph of Repulsion, let alone mind-affecting spells. Arcane Warriors can probably beat Loghain without resorting to attacking magic, but it would be much more efficient to use some good spells. That's what I did, and he couldn't even touch me.

Modifié par T0paze, 08 décembre 2009 - 05:18 .

[ReubenLiew]

Who is going to say no to a 7 foot tall creature of stone?

[XxDrunkSniperxX]

Dasim4 wrote...

ITSSEXYTIME wrote...

Belnorab wrote...

Price of a serious gaming rig:  $4,000.00

Price of Dragon Age Origins Collector's Edition:  $70.00

3) Select Dog as your champion.   Priceless

You're really high-balling it with that $4k price tag... try $1000.

I'd like to see this mystical $1000 Serious Gaming Rig  of yours.  And in the description of your rig the words "I already have" don't count.

me too.. you could probably shave $500 tho

[blackwolf1981]

T0paze wrote...

ROFL

Just saw the video on Youtube after browsing this thread. That scene with the dog is priceless.

I also don't see how they would allow Shale to fight Loghain. But maybe that was because he himself was willing, so nobody objected.

Everyone else is pretty much fine. It's obvious that though there are some rules, such single combats are not restricted to humans or warriors only. Using potions and other accessories seemed a bit unfair, though, so I did not resort to them. I also didn't use Blood Magic, because, well, it would be something to cast Blood Wound in front of the Grand Cleric.

As for the tactics, well, warriors may probably have a hard time with Loghain. I can see how rogues can do much better. Mages can simply own him - he has crappy resistances and, in most cases, can't even get past a simple Glyph of Repulsion, let alone mind-affecting spells. Arcane Warriors can probably beat Loghain without resorting to attacking magic, but it would be much more efficient to use some good spells. That's what I did, and he couldn't even touch me.

I used blood magic. No one said anything.......

[T0paze]

No one would, of course, because Dragon Age is very weak in this aspect. I mean, the PC can go around casting Blood Magic spells in front of templars, and no one would say anything. No only Wynne doesn't have anything to say to the PC amount him/her being a blood mage (that alone is kinda hard to swallow), she herself can be made one, which is ridiculous. The PC can cast spells wearing massive armor and no one even would bother to ask how the hell he/she does that - in a world where the only arcane warriors are, well, the PC and, possibly, Gaxkang (also two companions, if you decide to teach them).

So, I didn't use Blood Magic in that fight merely for RP reasons.

Modifié par T0paze, 08 décembre 2009 - 05:55 .

[blackwolf1981]

T0paze wrote...

No one would, of course, because Dragon Age is very weak in this aspect. I mean, the PC can go around casting Blood Magic spells in front of templars, and no one would say anything. No only Wynne doesn't have anything to say to the PC amount him/her being a blood mage (that alone is kinda hard to swallow), she herself can be made one, which is ridiculous. The PC can cast spells wearing massive armor and no one even would bother to ask how the hell he/she does that - in a world where the only arcane warriors are, well, the PC and, possibly, Gaxkang (also two companions, if you decide to teach them).

So, I didn't use Blood Magic in that fight merely for RP reasons.

I agree. Especially considering how powerful Blood magic is, there should be some serious consequences for it's use. Wynn should be out, and using at Landsmeet itself should be game over. It would be even cooler if blood magic left some sort of mark on your character that grew the more times you used it....making it more likely that folks would notice.

[Morwill]

I wanted to overwhelm him...I mean the dog... I wanted my dog to Overwhelm him. You know, that ability that makes your dog eat face.

[Loki330]

blackwolf1981 wrote...

T0paze wrote...

No one would, of course, because Dragon Age is very weak in this aspect. I mean, the PC can go around casting Blood Magic spells in front of templars, and no one would say anything. No only Wynne doesn't have anything to say to the PC amount him/her being a blood mage (that alone is kinda hard to swallow), she herself can be made one, which is ridiculous. The PC can cast spells wearing massive armor and no one even would bother to ask how the hell he/she does that - in a world where the only arcane warriors are, well, the PC and, possibly, Gaxkang (also two companions, if you decide to teach them).

So, I didn't use Blood Magic in that fight merely for RP reasons.

I agree. Especially considering how powerful Blood magic is, there should be some serious consequences for it's use. Wynn should be out, and using at Landsmeet itself should be game over. It would be even cooler if blood magic left some sort of mark on your character that grew the more times you used it....making it more likely that folks would notice.

Yes, but there's also the whole gameplay-vs-'realism' aspect. I appreciate it's not Dragonage, but Prototype has something similer-you leap off a building and land next to a soldier and he doesn't bat an eye (or at least connect the dots and open fire while screaming for help).
If he did on the other hand, the game would be bloody annoying.

Back to dragonage, yes it would be 'fun' if this sort of thing happened, until two (Alistar and Wynne) probably 3 (Leliana) and maybe even more would get very upset/leave severly comprmising your party flexibility to say nothing of being attacked by people at first sight, ect. It would be fun if you could talk more about your origin story (I was surprised when I went back to the alienage and Alistar acted like he'd never heard of my past-possible but unlikely considering my character was in a relationship with him) but... hey. (shrugs)

[blaidfiste]

Would have been cool to have the cutscene with him and the mabari circling each other.

[Loosemoose]

Taritu wrote...

Loosemoose wrote...

Seneva wrote...

Yes. Dog can use the Tome of Technique

Dogs can read books? 

That dog is smarter than some of the human companions...

I agree. But there are plenty of smart people that are illiterate. To read you must attend some kind of school or partake in private lessons to acquire the skill.

[RurouniSaiya-jin]

Andrastee wrote...

The first time I beat Loghain was hilarious, actually. Since he refused to fight my dog and I didn't want to be cheesy and use Wynne, I tried Alistair. Loghain pwned him completely - they've got similar skill sets for obvious reasons, but Loghain is a Champion and kept knocking Alistair on his arse, while being a Templar wasn't much good against him. So after a couple of reloads, I switched to my main.

Since she was an archer, this necessitated a lot of kiting - not that cheap a tactic, IMHO, when your character is so squishy. It's also not possible to use Ranger summons in that fight, so her specialisation wasn't doing me any good.

After I'd done a few rounds of Dirty Fighting/run laps of the throne room, Loghain's AI was actually smart enough to figure out my plan, whereupon he took out a bow and started pinging away at me. I must have stared at the screen in utter disbelief for a good sixty seconds before I remembered to hit him with Arrow of Slaying. I thought that if I stayed on the other side of the room he'd eventually swap tactics, but no. He just stood there at shot at me while I threw every archer talent in the book at him.

Needless to say, while Loghain would have pounded my ranger to a pulp toe-to-toe, he was no match for her at a distance :-).

lol, I didn't think that would happen. I didn't know he even had a bow. I was also an Archer with Ranger Specialization. The first time I tried to take on Lohgain with my PC, I was so confident because I planned to use my Blight Bear summon to keep him busy while I wail on him like I did at the provings. Unfortunately, I got completely destroyed by Loghain while I was trying to figure out why my Bear wouldn't come out of the crowd and help me. So, I had to redo the whole giant battle and the second time around I had Morrigan mop the floor with him. Had I known you could trick him into using a bow and arrow, I probably would have gone that route. I wanted to take him down personally. Oh well.

[swk3000]

I'm on the 360, and my dog randomly switches between having the Warrior trees and not having them. It's really annoying.

[OTeez]

I never worked Alistars templar uses, just moved on to other and he was a very important part of my first run through

[sleepy__head]

Now I'm curious, since I never have doggie in my party, can someone tell me what happens if you choose it as your champion in the Landsmeet? Or can the dog not even enter that area?

[Saurel]

Do they allow Shale to be your champion ?

[blaidfiste]

sleepy__head wrote...

Now I'm curious, since I never have doggie in my party, can someone tell me what happens if you choose it as your champion in the Landsmeet? Or can the dog not even enter that area?

[sleepy__head]

blaidfiste wrote...

sleepy__head wrote...

Now I'm curious, since I never have doggie in my party, can someone tell me what happens if you choose it as your champion in the Landsmeet? Or can the dog not even enter that area?

LMAO priceless.  Thank you.

[KethWolfheart]

Dark83 wrote...

Console Dog has Warrior, PC Dog does not.

This.  Seen this misconception going on.  Guess it was a bone thrown to the console gamers ...

Modifié par KethWolfheart, 11 décembre 2009 - 10:45 .

[Vajarra]

Andrastee wrote...

The first time I beat Loghain was hilarious, actually. Since he refused to fight my dog and I didn't want to be cheesy and use Wynne, I tried Alistair. Loghain pwned him completely - they've got similar skill sets for obvious reasons, but Loghain is a Champion and kept knocking Alistair on his arse, while being a Templar wasn't much good against him. So after a couple of reloads, I switched to my main.

My first run-through, I had Alistair fight him for RP reasons. The fight took FOREVER and Al kept having to use health poultices. So the second time, I fought him myself (mage) and kept him locked down in ice the entire fight. No contest really