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#76
Deviija

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Silly. When I play Drell Adept (or AA), I prefer to Reave everything in sight and let Sentinels, other Adepts, etc. detonate. It's a team thing. I really don't care about points, tbh. Only that we survive.

#77
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Dear Adepts, Sentinels, and Vanguards,

Please stop shaking my screen. You're preventing me from shooting your biotic explosion setups in the face. :)

Cordially,
Me

#78
WhySoeSerius

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Dear OP,
Please stop pulling the enemies im trying to get a headshot on.

From a geth, infiltrator :)

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I may be wrong, but i think some ammo types do prime tech based explosions, if you freeze or burn em.
I think everyone should spend time playing as many roles as possible, that would hopefully foster more teamwork, though there are plenty of high level adepts with big guns that will never know what a biotic explosion is. That said, adepts do better seperating from the snipers into a 2 man group, allowing you to take targets at optimum range without interference.
Also, why only sniper and shotgun infiltrator. I've yet to unlock the carnifex, but i had it in the demo and liked it with a human infiltrator for a completely different playstyle. It allowed you to recloak almost instantaneously, and i focused on duration rather than damage. With that setup i could appear anywhere on the battlefield, contribute some headshots from the flank, redirect and confuse the troops pressing on my comrades, and then move to a new flank or rejoin the crew. My score was lower than it would be with a pure damage sniper but my teams always did way better, and it was even more effective thsn usual at difficult revives and objectives due to the miniscule cooldown. Most infiltrators ignore that cloak turns you invisible and purely view it as a damage buff.
I like a good infiltrator around, and they are fun to play regardless of build, but most infiltrators choose a playstyle that looks good on the score page but contributes little to the team's success. Unless you are killing ravagers, then god bless you widow infiltrator...god bless you.

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Dear adept... GTFO my scope.

#81
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I'm constantly losing my perfectly lined-up headshots to Adepts/Vanguards biotically rocking things across the map. At least *we* can see when you've got something set up for a biotic explosion, we can't highlight something glowy blue if we've got our sights on it.

In general, if you're right next to me and warp what's directly in front of me and mess up my headshot...I will have thoughts about smacking you with my Widow. Seriously.

However, I find that situational awareness is lacking in most MP matches, so I try not to get my underwear too much in a wad about these things. Just go set up another headshot or explosion. It happens, don't fret so much.

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jaDanger wrote...

Unless you are killing ravagers, then god bless you widow infiltrator...god bless you.


Ravagers are my preys ! :devil:

Mostly because they're easy kill, they're large, they're slow, there're easy to flank, and they die it two well-aimed shots

I belive every class has different priorities; as a widow infiltrator, I look for heavy armored targets and long range units and avoid encounters with very mobile ennemies like Phantoms or Banshee; the only thing I'll get witch those two is likely death (one time I had to finish a wave on my own against ONE Banshee, that was ridiculous, I took me 5 minutes doing circles on the map <_<)

#83
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People need to seriously learn how to play each class, so the won't pull derp moves on their own team members. I hate it when I put stasis on an enemy, and before I can detonate it, some lazy sniper headshots him and breaks the stasis.

I play infiltrator a lot. I keep that class at level 20 instead of promoting, just to do gold runs when I'm down on credits. If you're a good shot, you don't need an enemy to be in stasis or pulled in order to get the headshot. If you're that inaccurate, then play a different class.

When I'm playing an adept, and get set off biotic explosions, it cripples my dps, and therefore cripples the whole teams total dps, all because our sniper can't shoot straight and has to go for easy targets rather than the necessary ones. I hate it so much, I usually just rage melee such snipers and hope they get the point, but they're usually far to stupid, and just keep doing the same thing.

Let me say it loud and clear so you can all get the point. STASIS IS NOT ME MARKING A TARGET FOR YOU!!!!!!!!!!! IT'S ME SETTING UP FOR A BIOTIC EXPLOSION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Modifié par I-am-Biwinning, 12 avril 2012 - 02:19 .


#84
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A kill's a kill, wheather or not it's my biotic combo or my friend's headshot.

I know for a fact Adept's annoy snipers as well (I'm getting better with that shockwave, Sky!) so just let it go, and go explode something else.

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I am a sniper and i have probably done this once or twice... but I do try not to steal kills, especially when they're being primed for a biotic boom. Now vanguards on the other hand... lol

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Xerorei

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Dear Adept,

Detonate Faster.

Love,
Sniper.

#87
FataliTensei

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Xerorei wrote...

Dear Adept,

Detonate Faster.

Love,
Sniper.


How about you shoot enemies that aren't primed, sounds alot easier to me.

Modifié par FataliTensei, 12 avril 2012 - 04:33 .


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Yes, for the love of whatever deity you may or may not believe in, stop shooting warped, stasised, and lifted targets!  If you can detonate them, then do that, just don't shoot them.

Modifié par Apocsapel91, 12 avril 2012 - 04:40 .


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Lol, or even playing as the salarian engineer and get geth for random enemies. They are shooting at you, your about to energy drain it for some OH SNAP shield just to have it sniped and you end up licking cement.

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Dear Team,

Stop doing the exact opposite of what I want you to do.

I get in a game with a vanguard, I think to myself "oh boy! I can reave ALL THE THINGS and bluesplosions everywhere! It's Michael Bay time, beeyotches!" only to have the vanguard avoid the army of blue glowing enemies like they're Paris Hilton clones out for his peener or something.

Then I get in a game where I figure I can set up and detonate my own bluesplosions in peace, and BAM! it's "Mr. Ima Snipe the Blue Guys" time.

And for the love of god, get in the damn bubble. I specced it specifically so you can eat rockets and come out laughing. And, I just know if I respec I'll get nothing but teams that want to get in the bubble and will gripe when I set it in a chokepoint.

Lol, or even playing as the salarian engineer and get geth for random enemies. They are shooting at you, your about to energy drain it for some OH SNAP shield just to have it sniped and you end up licking cement. 

This makes me want to DDT a puppy on my vanguard. Especially when the jackass that sniped my charge target and caused me to faceplant in the first place then proceeds to make a nasty comment about vantards or somesuch.

Modifié par humes spork, 12 avril 2012 - 04:46 .


#91
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Apocsapel91 wrote...

Yes, for the love of whatever deity you may or may not believe in, stop shooting warped, stasised, and lifted targets!


Wait, I always thought y'all set those up just for us! :happy:
Seriously though, I try to take note of these things when the mayhem begins to spread, but it's not always easy. Know this, I WILL always headshot what I zoom in on, I WILL always do my best to revive you, particularly if you've shown yourself to be a good asset to the team. I will expect the same from you as well, and I WILL always use my cloak to the advantage of both myself AND the team so that we can finish the damn golds. 
                                           Sincerely, 
                                               An Infiltrator that Cares. 

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Dr_Hat wrote...

Apocsapel91 wrote...

Yes, for the love of whatever deity you may or may not believe in, stop shooting warped, stasised, and lifted targets!


Wait, I always thought y'all set those up just for us! :happy:
Seriously though, I try to take note of these things when the mayhem begins to spread, but it's not always easy. Know this, I WILL always headshot what I zoom in on, I WILL always do my best to revive you, particularly if you've shown yourself to be a good asset to the team. I will expect the same from you as well, and I WILL always use my cloak to the advantage of both myself AND the team so that we can finish the damn golds. 
                                           Sincerely, 
                                               An Infiltrator that Cares. 


And I appreciate and understand that when the s*** hits the fan, it's not always practical to be picky with your targets and you need to kill what you need to kill.  My main gripe is in the earlier rounds where enemies are not as plentiful or dangerous and I can almost never get off a detonation.

#93
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Apocsapel91 wrote...

Yes, for the love of whatever deity you may or may not believe in, stop shooting warped, stasised, and lifted targets!  If you can detonate them, then do that, just don't shoot them.


Depends with regards to stasis. If used as CC, then yeah, they should be picking off the targets inside it.

#94
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Kill whatever I Stasis.

I know other Asari Adepts may disagree, but if they want to do biotic explosions, they ought to be using Warp -> Throw.

#95
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I give the Adept a couple opportunities to detonate, but if Wave 3 hits and the Biotic Explosions haven't been happening I start firing at will. Evidently, many players don't know about Biotic Explosions. I'm continually paired with Adepts that fail to setup explosions and rely almost entirely on weapons. Its frustrating because, had I known they were going to play the Biotic class like the Sniping class, I would have swapped over to my Adept. Instead, I spend most of the game reviving them and fleeing from groups of enemies that BEs would tear apart.

Conversely, on my Adept, if an Infiltrator is just Sniping everything it can, I lay off the BEs and focus on Throw spamming the health targets.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Kill whatever I Stasis.

I know other Asari Adepts may disagree, but if they want to do biotic explosions, they ought to be using Warp -> Throw.


+1

Don't waste your recharge time going for the Stasis combo's if it's not convinient. I can Warp/Throw 3 Geth in the time it takes me to Stasis/Warp one.

#97
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I have noticed this being a problem in the multiplayer on PC. Can't say for sure about the Console Peasants as I'm part of the Master Gaming Race (Yahtzee said it, that makes it true dammit).

What I have noticed is that snipers are only in two flavors in pick-up games, expert marksmen that always put down whatever falls into their sights or they're about as accurate as a Quarian firing a Revenant I on full-auto with no mods - and thus rely on other people stunning enemies before they can -dare- fire off a shot.

I'm not sure how, sniping feels... extremely easy in this game (considering how much I suck at Call of Field 3 : Black Ops of the Modern Warfare it's surprising to me) so I don't get the big problem with firing off a headshot with pretty much any of the sniper rifles (except the Javelin, but that's only because I'm horrible with judging the delay :D).

Basic subtext of this thread is:
"Dear Bioware,

Remove the other players from the multiplayer - they get me killed WAY more often than the enemy does.

Thank you,
The Players"

#98
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FataliTensei wrote...

Dear Snipers:bandit:,
 I grow weary of taking down a Maurader's shields and pulling him the middle of group of cannibals and as I about to detonate my pull, you with all you long range abilities decide to take out my pulled enemy.


Dear Adepts :ph34r:,
I grow weary of you spending AGES to take down a shielded mob's shields, then pulling him INTO A GROUP OF UNSHIELDED MOOKS and trying to detonate. As a class with all my long range abilities, please know that we WILL target the greatest threats..
Next time, please think a bit and USE [PULL] ON [CANNIBAL]. Then, detonate THAT. do NOT waste 20 seconds bringing down Marauder Shields when you have much better, faster primers right next to it! Leave the enemies you are useless against to your long-range sniper buddies. By the time you detonate your cannibal, the marauder will also be dead/nearly dead.
Love, Salarian Infiltrator.
xoxo <3

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There is a lot of cross-class griping going on in general. I play all the classes, so I have been on every side of the table here, but every class seems to do something that others hate. As an infiltrator, I try not to snipe warped targets, but ones in a stasis bubble? I shoot at them freely IF there is nothing armored around. However, as the infiltrator, I would ask that you please, please not stand RIGHT NEXT TO ME and spam Shockwave. It's hard to aim with my screen shaking.

Vanguards are another example. They hate it when Infiltrators snipe targets they could charge and regain shields from, and having been there, I understand that. But the infiltrator has no way of knowing what it is you plan to charge next (and the way some Vanguards spam charge, eventually some of us infiltrators cease to care because you guys seem to magically appear EVERYWHERE we aim). On the reverse side, especially in early waves, Infiltrators find it very frustrating to see the enemy and line up a headshot, only to have a Vanguard charge in and then Nova, guaranteeing that they knock our target out of our sights.

So basically my point is, every side does something that annoys the others. I think we ALL need to just be a bit more understanding. It's a team game, and what's important is that we, as a team, finish each wave, no matter who shoots, explodes, snipes or charges what. Right? Just try not to purposely kill what your teammates are setting up, and hopefully they show you the same courtesy.

But to ALL players on Bronze or Silver (where I play for exp rather than credits), I ask this: If I run up to some cover with an enemy on the other side and crouch to go for a grab, please don't throw/charge/snipe/pull/singularity the guy on the other side of it. This seems to happen to me WAY too much, even if there are five other enemies in the same area to target instead. All I want is my 5 grabs to net the team some bonus points.

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FataliTensei wrote...

Xerorei wrote...

Dear Adept,

Detonate Faster.

Love,
Sniper.


How about you shoot enemies that aren't primed, sounds alot easier to me.


Who the hell cares, I mean REALLY you're going to antagonize over this?
A Dead Enemy Can Kill No One.
Those seconds you take to set off another ability can cost a team member their life, ESPECIALLY on Gold Difficulty.
Stop being a selfish jerk, the game is not all about you and your biotic warp fetish.
Stop trying to warp the small fry and concentrate on the big ones, the banshees, the atlases, the brutes, the ravagers, Biotic Detonation is a weakness for those enemies.

Besides if you REALLY wanted to biotic explosion something, Warp + Throw, takes under 2 seconds and nobody can interrupt you if you do it right and have 180%+ regen.

You REALLY want to go warp crazy, phalanx and then go warp your Eezo cored little heart out.

Until then, I'll do my job, killing the enemy, making sure my teammates survive, and getting to EVAC.

Sniper, Out.