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#101
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Also I'd like to submit another letter: 

Dear Vanguards:
Please stop needlessly detonating my warped mooks when there are many other enemies about. My detonations will make a much bigger boom as I've actually chosen the detonation enhancement upgrades. It's getting really old. Keep being obnoxious and I might "forget" to rescue you.

Thank you,
Chromako <3

Modifié par Chromako, 12 avril 2012 - 06:20 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Kill whatever I Stasis.

I know other Asari Adepts may disagree, but if they want to do biotic explosions, they ought to be using Warp -> Throw.


This.

I like to combo things, even in stasis, but go ahead and kill them. I usually don't expect to combo anything in stasis at this point, and it doesn't bother me.

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NewStrings wrote...

I rarely see an adept detonating. I'm N7 150 and I've been in less than a dozen games where pulled enemies have been detonated. Usually what happens is they're left to tumble harmlessly to the floor before getting back up and shooting you in the back. Until I know I've got one of the rare adepts who know how to detonate, I shoot anything that moves.



 Or you are lying, or you have a serious bad luck playing with randons. All adept I met that use a loadout focused in cooldown (almost everyone) make explosions.

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The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...




Dear Adepts,

Get the **** out of the way.

Sincerely,

Infiltrators

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Chromako wrote...

Also I'd like to submit another letter: 

Dear Vanguards:
Please stop needlessly detonating my warped mooks when there are many other enemies about. My detonations will make a much bigger boom as I've actually chosen the detonation enhancement upgrades. It's getting really old. Keep being obnoxious and I might "forget" to rescue you.

Thank you,
Chromako <3



 my warped enemies they can detonate, actually I will be warping clo to them, so they can detonate. With help, I can make more explsions, and they will have a nova finishing any enemy that didn't died. So pls vanguards, keep charging warped enemies,,,

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BellaStrega wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Kill whatever I Stasis.

I know other Asari Adepts may disagree, but if they want to do biotic explosions, they ought to be using Warp -> Throw.


This.

I like to combo things, even in stasis, but go ahead and kill them. I usually don't expect to combo anything in stasis at this point, and it doesn't bother me.


It depends... i've had infiltrators specifically follow me to only shoot what i did warp or pull. And when I moved, they moved.  That gets lame instantly as you are not getting any kills whatsoever while theirs are rocketing up. + there is no good for the team either as 2 people constantly are focussing on the same crap.

While on the other hand if stuff gets harder I just spam around to give snipers a good shot to survive.

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Reshir wrote...

Dear Adepts, Sentinels, and Vanguards,

Please stop shaking my screen. You're preventing me from shooting your biotic explosion setups in the face. :)

Cordially,
Me


dear you

 learn how to hit the target even with the shaking screen. If I can do that, you can do as well..

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Chromako wrote...

Keep being obnoxious and I might "forget" to rescue you.


I never understand that attitude :huh:

I mean serously ,I played with BE-fanatics adepts, that really makes aiming at anything a chore.......yet I never tried to screw them up for the hell of it
Y'know, on silver and gold there is a sh!tload of ennemies to shoot at; just stay roughly 10 meters away from a Vanguard or shoot the ennemies coming from some other directions, there's cannon fodder from everyone

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FataliTensei wrote...

Dear Snipers:bandit:,

        I appreciate what you bring to the team, I really do. Your ability to take out a significant portion of health, armor, shields with one bullet, it's great it really is, but please, please, please stop shooting the enemies I have pulled. I grow weary of taking down a Maurader's shields and pulling him the middle of group of cannibals and as I about to detonate my pull, you with all you long range abilities decide to take out my pulled enemy. Please, he will die regardless, let me detonate him so that the other enemies around him will be injured. Please shoot enemies that I'm not about to explode, it's not about the score, it's just about common sense and working together.

Thanks for your consideration,
An Adept:wizard:


No problem, just stop pulling what I want to shoot ;)

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that makes me wonder, how does an Asari adept work if you equip a heavy hitter sniper rifle *u know Widow, Black Widow and Javelin*?

ive never tried but i would like to know...

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Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

that makes me wonder, how does an Asari adept work if you equip a heavy hitter sniper rifle *u know Widow, Black Widow and Javelin*?

ive never tried but i would like to know...


It works awesome!

So long as you don't mind being able to stasis every 30 seconds or so.

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Xerorei wrote...

Who the hell cares, I mean REALLY you're going to antagonize over this?
A Dead Enemy Can Kill No One.
Those seconds you take to set off another ability can cost a team member their life, ESPECIALLY on Gold Difficulty.
Stop being a selfish jerk, the game is not all about you and your biotic warp fetish.
Stop trying to warp the small fry and concentrate on the big ones, the banshees, the atlases, the brutes, the ravagers, Biotic Detonation is a weakness for those enemies.

Besides if you REALLY wanted to biotic explosion something, Warp + Throw, takes under 2 seconds and nobody can interrupt you if you do it right and have 180%+ regen.

You REALLY want to go warp crazy, phalanx and then go warp your Eezo cored little heart out.

Until then, I'll do my job, killing the enemy, making sure my teammates survive, and getting to EVAC.

Sniper, Out.


When you kill the cannibal I've Warped, you've killed one cannibal. When I use a Biotic Detonation to kill that cannibal, the husks and cannibals around it also die and a nearby marauder might loses his shields. In fact, if you had shot that marauder instead of that cannibal, it might have died as well.

My 4 dead enemies > Your 1 dead enemy.

Yes, if there's a something like a brute, atlas, or banshee nearby, I'll focus on that. After all, those can't dodge my powers, and the BEs will hopefully kill whatever is nearby.

People can kill an enemy after I've hit them with Warp but before I can apply Throw. I find it hard to believe that you don't know this if you play on gold.

The lowest CD for Warp is 2.2 seconds at +200% recharge with the level 6 skill that increases Warp recharge by 35%. At +180% recharge (Carnifex X) without that skill, it's 3.53 seconds.

I'm not complaining about you killing something that's standing by its lonesome. I'm not complaining about you killing something in a group, when that's all that's left. Nor does this bother me that you do this on occasion. On occasion, I step in front of you instead of behind you. On occasion, I stand too close when you're trying to cap a node and draw the attention of a ravager.

The complaint is that some snipers consistently target things that have been primed for a biotic explosion.

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

that makes me wonder, how does an Asari adept work if you equip a heavy hitter sniper rifle *u know Widow, Black Widow and Javelin*?

ive never tried but i would like to know...

Some people do fine by it. I think they'd be better off playing an infultrator though.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 12 avril 2012 - 07:50 .


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Gankstah wrote...

The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...


It usually takes under four seconds to set up and detonate combos. That should just about cover your reload time after firing your widow.

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Dear adept
I have a bubble for that problem if I don't die setting it up.

A Justicar.

#115
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FataliTensei wrote...

NewStrings wrote...

I rarely see an adept detonating. I'm N7 150 and I've been in less than a dozen games where pulled enemies have been detonated. Usually what happens is they're left to tumble harmlessly to the floor before getting back up and shooting you in the back. Until I know I've got one of the rare adepts who know how to detonate, I shoot anything that moves.


I don't know what kind adepts you play with but mosty I play with detonate their pulled enemies, I would say give your adept a chance before you start taking away their detonations.


I played with three adepts...one of each race...in one game...i rarely heard a BE...and i wasn't targeting their "fuses"

I totally understand where you guys are coming from...but at the same time...STOP PULLING AN ENEMY I'M ABOUT TO GET A GRAB ON!!!! :police:

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BellaStrega wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...


It usually takes under four seconds to set up and detonate combos. That should just about cover your reload time after firing your widow.


Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.

Modifié par Gankstah, 12 avril 2012 - 07:50 .


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KennyAshes wrote...

It depends... i've had infiltrators specifically follow me to only shoot what i did warp or pull. And when I moved, they moved.  That gets lame instantly as you are not getting any kills whatsoever while theirs are rocketing up. + there is no good for the team either as 2 people constantly are focussing on the same crap.

While on the other hand if stuff gets harder I just spam around to give snipers a good shot to survive.


Oh, that sort of thing - I've had it happen to me too, and that's not the same thing. Take Firebase White with that long ledge. When I stasis the first enemies to come around the corner, they often get sniped rapidly.Or just about anywhere in Firebase Dagger. That's not really a problem. When someone follows you around just to kill anything you tag, that's just really annoying.

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Abram730 wrote...

Dear adept
I have a bubble for that problem if I don't die setting it up.

A Justicar.

Sadly, I've yet to unlock or play with a Justicar, so I don't get the reference.

#119
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Gankstah wrote...

Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage for the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.


You're still not going to be killing entire crowds in the time it takes to set up a combo. Whatever you use to make your shots.

Anyway, I don't recall anyone claiming that biotic bombs are hard. It's generally accepted wisdom that biotic classes tend to score high because of the spammed AoE.

Your statements in the first post I replied to and this one make no sense. It's almost like you're snarking yourself.

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I was going to make a comment how with geth hunter mode you can't tell whether the enemy is painted for KABOOM or not, but I see you are upset about shooting pulled mobs, so my point is invalid Image IPB
(why would anyone shoot pulled mobs is beyond me anyhow)

IMHO, the best general strategy, which of course should be varied if need be, is for snipers to pick the fringe mobs, not the center one. With obvious exclusion to ravagers, phantoms, atlas etc elite mobs, when the powerful rifle should be focused on them until they go down.

PS, please keep husks away from me when I'm taking down Ravagers before they get within their range, you'll thank me later.

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Atrocity wrote...

I was going to make a comment how with geth hunter mode you can't tell whether the enemy is painted for KABOOM or not...

This is good to know.

I believe that Krogan Battle Rage is the same?

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BellaStrega wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage for the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.


You're still not going to be killing entire crowds in the time it takes to set up a combo.


I hear this a lot.  Mostly from bads.  Followed shortly after with, "Hax", "Cheater" or any variation thereof.  I know it's difficult to believe but there are people out there who are actually, you know, good at FPS games and don't need the crutch of auto targetted abilities to get them through a match.

Shocking, I know.

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Gankstah wrote...

BellaStrega wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...


It usually takes under four seconds to set up and detonate combos. That should just about cover your reload time after firing your widow.


Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.


No, its NOT hard to set up.

Its called correct equip and ability growth.

Lightweight pistol plus quick rechard of warp and instant recharge after detonation with throw, you'll get a BE every 2.5## seconds.
A good sniper can take out just as many enemies in the same amount of time if they know what they're doing.

I admit, i've had some a-hole players with me before, while i was and adept and/or human sent. but i learned their pattern, and eailly outmanuvered them by using my powers effectivly...throwing enemies accross the map tends to throw off a snipers aim...so does shockwave...and lift. all powers that can disrupt a snipers precision.

Trust me...i LOVE my sniper...and when people start following me around and throwing EVERYTHING...i want to turn my gun on them...and pull the trigger.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 12 avril 2012 - 08:13 .


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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

BellaStrega wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...


It usually takes under four seconds to set up and detonate combos. That should just about cover your reload time after firing your widow.


Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.


No, its NOT hard to set up.



WOOOOOOOSH!

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

I was going to make a comment how with geth hunter mode you can't tell whether the enemy is painted for KABOOM or not...

This is good to know.

I believe that Krogan Battle Rage is the same?

Not half as bad, believe me. Hunter vision is awesome, a reason why I'm getting a headset, so I can tell people what mobs are in the next room etc, because it sees through walls. No more running into a Ravager party, yay!

The problem is, it sees through walls painting everything RED. It also puts a layer of cell-pattern on every mob within your sight, so you can imagine it is really hard to see even whether the mob is warped, let alone reaved etc.

// tried to make RED, red, didn't work, thus caps lock.

Modifié par Atrocity, 12 avril 2012 - 08:16 .