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#126
Yajuu Omoi

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Gankstah wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

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Gankstah wrote...

The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...


It usually takes under four seconds to set up and detonate combos. That should just about cover your reload time after firing your widow.


Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.


No, its NOT hard to set up.



WOOOOOOOSH!


Uh...? did you just "throw" my text away?

^ see wat i did just there?

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Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.

No, its NOT hard to set up.

He was being sarcastic. Gankstah doesn't believe that BEs are hard to set up. In fact, he considers people who use BEs to be 'bads' and 'noobs.'

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 12 avril 2012 - 08:17 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.

No, its NOT hard to set up.

He was being sarcastic. Gankstah doesn't believe that BEs are hard to set up. In fact, he considers people who use BEs to be 'bads' and 'noobs.'


Uh-huh...i see people who can use them effectivly as smart...killing 5 or 6 ppl with one power is quite effective...using a missle on ONE brute, banshee, prime, or atlas on BRONZE...thats a noob...

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Atrocity wrote...

Not half as bad, believe me. Hunter vision is awesome, a reason why I'm getting a headset, so I can tell people what mobs are in the next room etc, because it sees through walls. No more running into a Ravager party, yay!

The problem is, it sees through walls painting everything RED. It also puts a layer of cell-pattern on every mob within your sight, so you can imagine it is really hard to see even whether the mob is warped, let alone reaved etc.

// tried to make RED, red, didn't work, thus caps lock.

Can you still see a stasis bubble? What about cloaked hunters? What about the orange glow of a hacked geth?

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Gankstah wrote...

The time it takes you to set up a Biotic Bomb I've already decimated 1/2 the opposing forces. So...




Dear Adepts,

Get the **** out of the way.

Sincerely,

Infiltrators


Honestly...you just made infils look bad...:blink:

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Not half as bad, believe me. Hunter vision is awesome, a reason why I'm getting a headset, so I can tell people what mobs are in the next room etc, because it sees through walls. No more running into a Ravager party, yay!

The problem is, it sees through walls painting everything RED. It also puts a layer of cell-pattern on every mob within your sight, so you can imagine it is really hard to see even whether the mob is warped, let alone reaved etc.

// tried to make RED, red, didn't work, thus caps lock.

Can you still see a stasis bubble? What about cloaked hunters? What about the orange glow of a hacked geth?


I don't have a geth myself...but all my friends so... T.T

They can see cloaked hunters piece of cake, dunno about the hacked glow...i don;t think they would be able to since red is damn close to orange...but they can see bubble...those aren't directly on an enemy...

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 12 avril 2012 - 08:24 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Atrocity wrote...

Not half as bad, believe me. Hunter vision is awesome, a reason why I'm getting a headset, so I can tell people what mobs are in the next room etc, because it sees through walls. No more running into a Ravager party, yay!

The problem is, it sees through walls painting everything RED. It also puts a layer of cell-pattern on every mob within your sight, so you can imagine it is really hard to see even whether the mob is warped, let alone reaved etc.

// tried to make RED, red, didn't work, thus caps lock.

Can you still see a stasis bubble? What about cloaked hunters? What about the orange glow of a hacked geth?

Stasis buble yes, a bit harder than without vision turned on, but the fact the mobs freeze is kind of a give away Image IPB

Orange glow turns into a somewhat white-ish glow, really hard to see, not impossible, but on harder levels I usually don't have time to look that hard whether it's there or not (other might have the time, I'm not that good yet).

Cloaked target looks the same as non-cloaked, I have shot countless geth just to realize after they stagger that they were hunters, phantoms are visible and so on. One of the better sides of the vision, you can tell your team where those buggers are.

The downside to this skill, apart from shield reduction, is the fact it has been made in a way it really narrows your vision. And if one plays inf as I do, tunnel-vision is chronical disease as it is. There's literally this hologrammic sh*t on your screen, covering ~50% of it, things look slightly out of focus, and it's really, really, really hard to tell where the shots that hit you are coming from. I get why it was made this way, kinda OP otherwise with movement and fire-rate buff, but that's something people should keep in mind when playing with geths.

// tl;dr Geth do not infiltrate on purpose, they just can't see where they're going.

Modifié par Atrocity, 12 avril 2012 - 08:38 .


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if it constantly happens i tell them once to stop, then i just leave. Handle all the reaper waves with 3 and no adept if you like.

Modifié par Vipala, 12 avril 2012 - 08:43 .


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I must say i like playing Asari Adept and Asari Justicar, don't like the Drell much really..but with a (good) Vanguard. Last time i had a few rounds with a Vanguard detonating everything i touched with my Justicar + bubble on the big guys, we basicly took out everything together the sniper didn't have a chance to aim the other guy quit cause he had nothing to do :P

This was imo awesome in a way, i wonder if this would be possible on silver/gold also. Doing objectives was really easy with bubbles up on the good spots.

I just put reave on everything i saw, if something was hiding i used pull and placed the bubble on the busy spots.. it was a continues wave of BE sounds every round :).

Sure on some maps this is not really doable due to the spread and snipers will be killing some of the prepped mobs, but still if everyone does their jobs it should be fine, it's the same with Sabotage... when i use that it's the first 1 to go...

But yes sometimes the one outweighs the other and a BE in a group of 5 is better then that 1 headshot.

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Xerorei wrote...

Dear Adept,

Detonate Faster.

Love,
Sniper.


Dear Adept,

Don't warp/shockwave/pull things that are directly in front of me. Chances are, I'm trying to shoot them. If you pull something that I was targeting anyway, you bet your bluesplosion-happy butt I will shoot it.

Thanks,

Sniper

:whistle:

Dear everyone,

I play with good friends who are Adepts, sometimes we all mess each other up. Let's just get over it and kill all the things, 'kay?

Love,

Me

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TLK Spires wrote...

dear everybody who isn't a sniper,

20 HEADSHOTS

eternally yours,

a sniper

56 headshots in one game.

On my level BSN.

Modifié par Reptilian Rob, 12 avril 2012 - 09:28 .


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Reptilian Rob wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

dear everybody who isn't a sniper,

20 HEADSHOTS

eternally yours,

a sniper

56 headshots in one game.

On my level BSN.


But you missed the extraction. NOOB!

Lol.

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'Dear Adept stop taking my kills' infiltrator
Dear infiltrator, stop killing, biotic combo triggers', Adept

Lol @ that. Especially on gold. Have you people forgotten about communication? Is the greed for highest score so high? Are you guys to lazy for a tiny little bit of strategy? Cause on maps that aren't firebase white, you'll need strategy.

I don't care if you kill lonely enemies nearby. I don't care if you shoot statis'ed targets (just make sure you actually kill it, and not make it drop on ground, cause if it's a geth infiltrator, he might as wel kill you right after, because you failed to kill it). If we are doing fine, or salarian engineer manages to draw all agro from every single enemy with decoy (i've seen it happen, had 3 prime distracted haha), then i don't care since we should be able to kill them, no matter how. However if you SEE we are getting overrun... Damn you snipers for killing the biotic trigger, when there's 10+ more enemies nearby. If it's a mistake, no problme i'll setup again. But if you keep doing this, and then everyone dies... Bleh...

Same goes for adepts. If you see a sniper target a particular enemy, look for others, if possible.

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FataliTensei wrote...

 Your ability to take out a significant portion of health, armor, shields with one bullet, it's great it really is, but please, please, please stop shooting the enemies I have pulled. I grow weary of taking down a Maurader's shields and pulling him the middle of group of cannibals and as I about to detonate my pull, you with all you long range abilities decide to take out my pulled enemy. 


^This. It is better to leave hacked/warped/pulled/[all colored targets] alone. Bioexplotions can kill off a buttload of enemies in a blink of an eye. But than again, the adept is stealing your kill... :ph34r:

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I rarely see an adept detonating. I'm N7 150 and I've been in less than a dozen games where pulled enemies have been detonated. Usually what happens is they're left to tumble harmlessly to the floor before getting back up and shooting you in the back. Until I know I've got one of the rare adepts who know how to detonate, I shoot anything that moves.


Stop playing with bad people if you see an asari adept with revenant and claymour find another lobby

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Gankstah wrote...

I hear this a lot.  Mostly from bads.  Followed shortly after with, "Hax", "Cheater" or any variation thereof.  I know it's difficult to believe but there are people out there who are actually, you know, good at FPS games and don't need the crutch of auto targetted abilities to get them through a match.

Shocking, I know.


Even with a Black Widow, you're sort of limited in how many kills you can make in a given period of time. No matter which sniper rifle you're using, you're still going to be dealing with a bottleneck due to having a small magazine and reload times. Do I believe you can kill lots of enemies? Yes. Do I believe you're killing as fast as you insist? No. You either have an unrealistic idea of how long it takes to set up biotic detonations or an unrealistic idea of your actual skill level. Or both.

It's simple math.  Sort of like no matter how hard you try to rearrange it, 1+1 will always equal 2, sniper rifles will always have an upper limit on killing speed.

Modifié par BellaStrega, 12 avril 2012 - 10:39 .


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I can't believe people honestly complain about kill stealing in a co-op game. It's in the best interest for the team to allow an adept to set off biotic explosions when enemies are clustered.

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Adam2190 wrote...

I can't believe people honestly complain about kill stealing in a co-op game. It's in the best interest for the team to allow an adept to set off biotic explosions when enemies are clustered.


I feel the same I even said to my friend who I play with sorry about taking that shot on a pryo and he said np I needed the help its not about kills its about beating the game and getting extracted also I have noted playing as a sniper at times that people nick my kills if I have took someones shields down I dont care about it one bit as long as it gets dead

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wolf99000 wrote...

Adam2190 wrote...

I can't believe people honestly complain about kill stealing in a co-op game. It's in the best interest for the team to allow an adept to set off biotic explosions when enemies are clustered.


I feel the same I even said to my friend who I play with sorry about taking that shot on a pryo and he said np I needed the help its not about kills its about beating the game and getting extracted also I have noted playing as a sniper at times that people nick my kills if I have took someones shields down I dont care about it one bit as long as it gets dead


Dear Adepts,
   I am a sniper.  I'm sorry for taking your kill, but
guy is dead, and I'm already targeting the rest of that mob with my N7
Valiant II.  It might have a 3 round clip, but I consider it a
bottomless clip.  So either target the weaker enemies, or assist me with
the larger ones.  I can't always pick out what you've targeted/hit when
I'm worried about killing the flood of enemies.  "I AM" more worried
about putting my shots on target, killing what is in my crosshairs, and
not getting flanked.  Sincerely,
ZerrecO50
Aka one of those infiltrating snipers.

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I'm totally with the sentiments of the OP, in fact snipers while useful tend to pick easy kills like those in stasis or an enemy as you're mid performing a heavy melee.

My attitude as a sniper is to give my squad mates covering fire and check they're not being taken down from behind etc.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

dear everybody who isn't a sniper,

20 HEADSHOTS

eternally yours,

a sniper

56 headshots in one game.

On my level BSN.


This. Kinda makes me wish the medal did not max out at 20, when I hit that by wave 3.

Also, I tend to leave the stasis targets alone. The exception is phantoms. I have never heard an adept complain when I send a restrained phantom's head in to two different zip codes.

So thank you adepts (and anyone else with stasis), for holding those pesky phantoms in place. We make a great team when we work together.

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Raptr569 wrote...

I'm totally with the sentiments of the OP, in fact snipers while useful tend to pick easy kills like those in stasis or an enemy as you're mid performing a heavy melee.

My attitude as a sniper is to give my squad mates covering fire and check they're not being taken down from behind etc.


thats more about the type of people you have played with who use sniper rifles I know me like you  I use my reveant with my krogan and I never go for stasis enemies what I do is help my friends by hitting brutes banshees and turrets and geth primes but dont get me wrong I am not saying I dont get my fair share of kills I do and when the extration zone gets swamped with enemies you are glad you have got a sniper on your side

but really its not all about who kills most its co op and the aim is beating lvl 10 and getting extracted

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But it looks so cool when a floating enemy gets blown away.

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SpiffyNova wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

TLK Spires wrote...

dear everybody who isn't a sniper,

20 HEADSHOTS

eternally yours,

a sniper

56 headshots in one game.

On my level BSN.


This. Kinda makes me wish the medal did not max out at 20, when I hit that by wave 3.

Also, I tend to leave the stasis targets alone. The exception is phantoms. I have never heard an adept complain when I send a restrained phantom's head in to two different zip codes.

So thank you adepts (and anyone else with stasis), for holding those pesky phantoms in place. We make a great team when we work together.


And thats what it's all about, working together. If I statis something like a phantom and a sniper take it out I don't care, thats good in my book. The problem comes when all these self-abosrbed snipers (Like the ones talking about how awesome they are, how adepts need to detonate faster, and how they'll just do whatever they want) just kill whatever is easiest or don't think when they shoot.

If I have an enemy pulled or painted with warp and I can detonate my own explosions it makes a hell of a alot more sense for you to shoot the shielded or armoured enemy thats close to my primed target so that it could potentially be killed by the biotic explosion. Or just shooting enemies that aren't in the explosion range, you're killing something that no one is currently working on and just helping out the team's overall kill ability.

But no some people have to care only about their score and try to boost their ego by sniping something in a videogame.

Modifié par FataliTensei, 12 avril 2012 - 02:15 .


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It's just you gettin' bad snipers. I get trash adepts, too...Ones that instead of focusing on groups and dealin' with them they go for the Prime, meanwhile the Pyros wipe the group.

I don't know about others, but I see someone with blue flames it means to me they're bein' dealt with, I'll nab the straggling Hunter no one seems to see comin' in the back door.