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[Shatterhand1701]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

Gankstah wrote...

Widow's are for noobs.

As are Biotic Bombs.  Spamming heat seeking auto targeted powers in tandem with another player that does obscene damage which far out weighs the effort involved is hard.

Really...

...it is.

No, its NOT hard to set up.

He was being sarcastic. Gankstah doesn't believe that BEs are hard to set up. In fact, he considers people who use BEs to be 'bads' and 'noobs.'

Uh-huh...i see people who can use them effectivly as smart...killing 5 or 6 ppl with one power is quite effective...using a missle on ONE brute, banshee, prime, or atlas on BRONZE...thats a noob...

Sorry, gotta disagree with you on that "noob" label.  If I see my teammates unloading their ARs, SMGs, or pistols at an Atlas and barely making a dent, rather than watch them get picked off because they don't fall back to a safe distance to cast more effective attacks, I'm damn well gonna nuke them with a missile.  I can understand wanting to whittle away at the boss target's powers and wear them down, but there are times when you just have to bring out the big guns.

Last night I was on Firestation Hydra and we were in the midst of a big Geth push.   People were dropping left and right because they were trying to just riddle a Prime with enough holes to bring it down, and it wasn't working.  We were getting pinned because we had pyros coming from one end, hunters and troopers from another, so finally I just said "Aw, f*ck this", pulled my missile launcher and BLAM!  No more Prime.  We were finally able to break from our cover position and finish off the wave with no more dropped teammates.

Strategy is great when you have the means and opportunity to execute it, but sometimes you have to go with the "use the big gun to kill the bad guy" maneuver.

[Mysteryman2000]

I find it really funny when somone uses pull then as a vanguard I use stasis and snipe them with my new Kishock Harpoon gun. XD

[Horacio Zhao]

yeah, I understand that, since the two of my favorite classes are adept and infiltrator, so when I'm a sniper.I don't target things that people prepare to detonate

[InfamousResult]

It shouldn't be hard to IGNORE the glowing / floating enemy in a sea of NOT-glowing, NOT-floating enemies. In fact, it should be easy to actively ignore them; you can just see the one enemy that stands out and think to yourself, "Okay, just don't shoot THAT guy."

And to whoever keeps saying things like "by the time you detonate, I've decimated 1/2 the enemy forces, nyuk nyuk"- the truth is, a full team of biotics is much more efficient / deals much more damage over a wide area than a team of snipers. All the time. If you're wanting to talk about who deals with enemies faster, and what's more "useful" in the long run, you'd be better off joining your Adept and helping them spam biotic explosions.

That's not me telling you what to play, of course. You can play whatever the Hell you want. You can pretend that sniping in this game is hard ( which anybody who's played a sniper in any OTHER game would be able to tell you, no, it isn't ) and that you're some sort of sicknasty MLG pro if you want. Just don't try to say "I'm such a good sniper I'm faster at killing enemies than if we had a whole team of biotics, a hurr durr". Because it's just not true. It just isn't.

[Byriok]

When I play adept(drell), I can detonate without issues and immediately after pull w/reave, even with snipers present.
So unless your cooldown is massive...you should be able to detonate even with snipers. As a sentinel I can biotic detonation my way to 3~4x the score of everyone else on the team, know where your team is, who they are, and how to score even with them present is key. A few waves in should be able to tell you how skilled they are at their class, so adjust your play accordingly too. When my team is uber awesome, I'll use pull in support roles by taking enemies out of cover so the rest of the team can kill it quickly. This is team based multiplayer after all, you take what you can get and make the best of it depending on the situation.

You still get assist points for the pull, and if you're that hard pressed on detonating for kills, go hunt down enemies away from the sniper's range.

And if you're teamed up with infiltrators, headshots are to be expected, it's not that big a deal, so long as everyone makes it through the game by the end. A wave finished is better than group wipe, and if you're taking that long to set up detonations, you might want to check your specs and weapons to see if you can make it faster.

Modifié par Byriok, 12 avril 2012 - 03:07 .

[FataliTensei]

Buddha840 wrote...

It's just you gettin' bad snipers. I get trash adepts, too...Ones that instead of focusing on groups and dealin' with them they go for the Prime, meanwhile the Pyros wipe the group.

I don't know about others, but I see someone with blue flames it means to me they're bein' dealt with, I'll nab the straggling Hunter no one seems to see comin' in the back door.

And I love you for taking out that hunter that would have killed my squishy adept

[Biotic_Warlock]

Okay i admit... today when witnessing people flying around with biotics... i was tempted to pull the javelin trigger and execute that gorgeous double kill... *fiendish pleasure*

[DirtySHISN0]

Dear non long range class,
please stop standing directly in front of and/or moving in front of me constantly. I use the bullet pen mod to shoot through you, not walls. If i cant see through my scope i cant see if the target has any effects on it.

I get what op means, annoys me when people steal setups when there are plenty of targets available.

[wolf99000]

DirtySHISN0 wrote...

Dear non long range class,
please stop standing directly in front of and/or moving in front of me constantly. I use the bullet pen mod to shoot through you, not walls. If i cant see through my scope i cant see if the target has any effects on it.

I get what op means, annoys me when people steal setups when there are plenty of targets available.

i second this while my friend dont do it if you leave a slot open you get guys who see you looking in the scope and just stand in front so you cannot see and nick your kill as you point out it works both ways

[happy_daiz]

The same could be said for when people snipe an enemy you were all set up to grab. *sigh*

Of course, I've been guilty of this myself.

Modifié par happy_daiz, 12 avril 2012 - 05:45 .

[Bob Garbage]

Ahh there's a difference between a player who does something once or twice, and someone who just doesn't get the point and ****s around the whole match.

[gilgamesh v9]

As a sniper I can get beind this. However, as a sniper i also ask that others do not shoot a gaurdian in the sheild.... it makes them flinch and i cant hit them through their mail slot... sincerely, A sniper

[Bob Garbage]

You should probably be able to pull of a kill shot once they stagger.

[wolf99000]

happy_daiz wrote...

The same could be said for when people snipe an enemy you were all set up to grab. *sigh*

Of course, I've been guilty of this myself.

there is also the times when you are going for a melee kill and someone shoots the guy dead just as you are about to hit him the last time to kill him

[Viper371]

AartB wrote...

this is not a problem. i got a better one for you:

dear vangaurds. STOP DOING ANYTHING! seriously all they do is get theirself and the team killed. i applaud a good vangaurd but they are extremely rare and a bad vangaurd pulls down everyone with him because every idiot tries to revive the vangaurd no matter what is trampling over his body they simply charge after him yelling "MUST REVIVE!!!!" okay maybe thats a tad to much but dear god i hate having to clean up after a vangaurd only to see his score is the best in the end of the round. at the expense of everyone else

Vanguards and Krogan soldiers tend to be problematic.  Just because they are tough characters, some people translate that as invicible. Seriously, In the only 2 games I could play in 2 days, I had to revived a soldier a dozen times in each game.  You revive him, and immediatly he tries to heavy mellee everything.

Goddam it soldiers and vanguards, use a weapon!  Use the Mattock assault rifle, shoot targets from far away, fire grenades or carnage, then move in for the kill.   A Krogan soldier can't stand toe to toe with a Banshee or a Brute.  And it won't stand against an Atlas until you're in rage mode.  And even then, an Atlas at full strenght is more than a match.

[Demonhoopa]

FataliTensei wrote...

Dear Snipers:bandit:,

        I appreciate what you bring to the team, I really do. Your ability to take out a significant portion of health, armor, shields with one bullet, it's great it really is, but please, please, please stop shooting the enemies I have pulled. I grow weary of taking down a Maurader's shields and pulling him the middle of group of cannibals and as I about to detonate my pull, you with all you long range abilities decide to take out my pulled enemy. Please, he will die regardless, let me detonate him so that the other enemies around him will be injured. Please shoot enemies that I'm not about to explode, it's not about the score, it's just about common sense and working together.

Thanks for your consideration,
An Adept:wizard:

"You stole my kill!" 

A Call of Duty mentality in my opinion. This is why I avoid public games if at all possible. Prefer to work as a team where we only care about getting through all 11 waves. 

To each his own. 

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 12 avril 2012 - 06:11 .

[Demonhoopa]

NewStrings wrote...

I rarely see an adept detonating. I'm N7 150 and I've been in less than a dozen games where pulled enemies have been detonated. Usually what happens is they're left to tumble harmlessly to the floor before getting back up and shooting you in the back. Until I know I've got one of the rare adepts who know how to detonate, I shoot anything that moves.

You're playing with the wrong people.

If you're on Xbox 360, look for me if you want to see explosions all over the place.

Gamertag: Demonhoopa

[YuenglingDragon]

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

As a sniper I can get beind this. However, as a sniper i also ask that others do not shoot a gaurdian in the sheild.... it makes them flinch and i cant hit them through their mail slot... sincerely, A sniper

This is harder to do.  I have no way of telling when you are and are not aiming at a Guardian.  At what point does it become ok for me to toss Throw at him and Carnifex his face?  10 meters?  5?

Not killing my HA or AA's fuse is easy.  For the Human adept: "If it's flyin', it's dyin'!" is the thing to remember.  For the AA, just remember "If its glown', its blowin'!"

You can tell what I'm going to kill.  Their clearly evident state is clearly evident.  I understand if you do it a couple times early in the game.  You don't know me, I don't know you.  But take a moment to watch my dedication to esplodifying dudes.  I am dedicated.  It is how my AA does her thing.  I won't leave you hanging.  I'll kill the thing.  Let it happen.  Shhhhhh.  Just let it happen...

Demonhoopa wrote...

"You stole my kill!" 

A Call of Duty mentality in my opinion. This is why I avoid public games if at all possible. Prefer to work as a team where we only care about getting through all 11 waves. 

To each his own. 

 
You have missed the point.  This is not about score.  I don't care about the score.  This is about allowing me to do my thing, my niche.  You know when you're sniping and someone does a shockwave next to your head and screen shake makes you miss and you think the shockwave guy is a total douche?  That's how I feel when you kill my fuse.  I Warped him because I'm going to Throw him in 2 seconds, not so that you can get the bonus damage from the pierce evolution.

Modifié par YuenglingDragon, 12 avril 2012 - 06:08 .

[DirtySHISN0]

YuenglingDragon wrote...

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

As a sniper I can get beind this. However, as a sniper i also ask that others do not shoot a gaurdian in the sheild.... it makes them flinch and i cant hit them through their mail slot... sincerely, A sniper

This is harder to do.  I have no way of telling when you are and are not aiming at a Guardian.  At what point does it become ok for me to toss Throw at him and Carnifex his face?  10 meters?  5?

Not killing my HA or AA's fuse is easy.  For the Human adept: "If it's flyin', it's dyin'!" is the thing to remember.  For the AA, just remember "If its glown', its blowin'!"

You can tell what I'm going to kill.  Their clearly evident state is clearly evident.  I understand if you do it a couple times early in the game.  You don't know me, I don't know you.  But take a moment to watch my dedication to esplodifying dudes.  I am dedicated.  It is how my AA does her thing.  I won't leave you hanging.  I'll kill the thing.  Let it happen.  Shhhhhh.  Just let it happen...

Bullet penetration mod, you dont need to aim for the slots then, just the facial region.

plus you can take out mutiple people as they line up.

Modifié par DirtySHISN0, 12 avril 2012 - 06:08 .

[Maria Caliban]

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

As a sniper I can get beind this. However, as a sniper i also ask that others do not shoot a gaurdian in the sheild.... it makes them flinch and i cant hit them through their mail slot... sincerely, A sniper

You're probably talking to the wrong group. Most adepts will stasis or pull a guardian.

[Demonhoopa]

YuenglingDragon wrote...

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

As a sniper I can get beind this. However, as a sniper i also ask that others do not shoot a gaurdian in the sheild.... it makes them flinch and i cant hit them through their mail slot... sincerely, A sniper

This is harder to do.  I have no way of telling when you are and are not aiming at a Guardian.  At what point does it become ok for me to toss Throw at him and Carnifex his face?  10 meters?  5?

Not killing my HA or AA's fuse is easy.  For the Human adept: "If it's flyin', it's dyin'!" is the thing to remember.  For the AA, just remember "If its glown', its blowin'!"

You can tell what I'm going to kill.  Their clearly evident state is clearly evident.  I understand if you do it a couple times early in the game.  You don't know me, I don't know you.  But take a moment to watch my dedication to esplodifying dudes.  I am dedicated.  It is how my AA does her thing.  I won't leave you hanging.  I'll kill the thing.  Let it happen.  Shhhhhh.  Just let it happen...

Demonhoopa wrote...

"You stole my kill!" 

A Call of Duty mentality in my opinion. This is why I avoid public games if at all possible. Prefer to work as a team where we only care about getting through all 11 waves. 

To each his own. 

 
You have missed the point.  This is not about score.  I don't care about the score.  This is about allowing me to do my thing, my niche.  You know when you're sniping and someone does a shockwave next to your head and screen shake makes you miss and you think the shockwave guy is a total douche?  That's how I feel when you kill my fuse.  I Warped him because I'm going to Throw him in 2 seconds, not so that you can get the bonus damage from the pierce evolution.

Of course I missed your point. I never read your post NOR did I REPLY to your post.

BTW, I play an adept and NEVER play a sniper. With +200 recharge time, the occasional sniping of a primed target barely gives me pause as I'm spamming detonations all over the field.

If my sniper has a shot that will drop 'em, I"m fine with them taking it. I'm already blowing up the next baddie, before that primed target is finsihed hitting the ground.

But I play with people that worked together so we don't care about these issues.

Modifié par Demonhoopa, 12 avril 2012 - 06:16 .

[Demonhoopa]

Maria Caliban wrote...

gilgamesh v9 wrote...

As a sniper I can get beind this. However, as a sniper i also ask that others do not shoot a gaurdian in the sheild.... it makes them flinch and i cant hit them through their mail slot... sincerely, A sniper

You're probably talking to the wrong group. Most adepts will stasis or pull a guardian.

I hit them with throw and head shot them with my Carnifex when their shield comes down.

[SpiffyNova]

YuenglingDragon wrote...

This is harder to do.  I have no way of telling when you are and are not aiming at a Guardian.  At what point does it become ok for me to toss Throw at him and Carnifex his face?  10 meters?  5?

I think that this is part of the problem. As a sniper, no one knows what I am targeting until I reduce it's head to a fine mist. Maybe if we had a laser sight like the nemesis for our team-mates sake.

EDIT: Maybe a green or blue laser so we don't get mixed up with the nemesis.

Modifié par SpiffyNova, 12 avril 2012 - 06:25 .

[Shahadem]

I can kill 3 easy mobs in the time it takes you to get your detonation off.

Instead of trying to detonate that lone Marauder you should have been bringing down the Banshee whose teleporting ability makes them a much harder target for snipers but melt like butter to Adepts.

[jalford1980]

Dear adepts,

We love your biotic explosions. Esp when you do them on the big enemies and kill all the smaller ones around them. But please, do it way the **** away from me. The constant screen shaking makes me want to hurt kittens.

Your friendly neighborhood sniper


But seriously, I play all the classes, and there are irritating things like this for every class. As a sniper, im constantly lining up head shots just to have them knocked around right as I fire, vanguards just barreling into everything(stop charging the damn guardians...I GOT IT), adepts pulling stuff, grenades going off everywhere, giant krogan and geth heads right in my scope sight line, ect. As an adept, you have people shooting your primed targets. Im constantly having to tell the sniper to leave the blue targets alone. CONSTANTLY. Or when i stasis a target, and am lining up my own pistol headshot, somebody chest shots them, causing the effect to end, and the head drops out of my ret just as I fire!! Drives me nuts. It happens on engineers trying to get techbursts, as well. And with the new classes, such as the justicar, im doing everything in my power to get the big targets to move into my bubble, and the damn vaguard is charging them keeping them in place. Nevermind the enormous damage bonus we could all be enjoying. You just charge right on in there and die. I could go on and on.

As long as we win, i really dont care. People are never going to stop, and we are all guilty of doing it to an extent. The only ones that I find almost unforgivable is the damn out of control vanguard, and the constant shooting of the blue target. Easily avoidable things. Vanguards can make such a difference to the match when played right, it drives me crazy to see the bad ones.