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[MatronAdena]

rachellouise wrote...

wait, he didn't say reaper tech, did he? He said synthetic life. Or am I remembering incorrectly?

he actually said " synthetic life" Writers said EDI survived because she is not " or not enough " reaper tech.

so take it for what you will, a case of mis-speaking, misunderstanding, retconing, or any number of things....
but at the end of the day the ghosling Harby JR said " all synthetic life" yet it's official that Edi survives the destroy ending, and the geth are still very similar to her if not sort of :lesser" to a degree.

which again is what made me to think the second I say EDI come out of the ship on my initial finish that the brat was lying, and that he tried to make destroy sound bad for a reason- self preservation.

[rachellouise]

DJBare wrote...

MentalKase wrote...

If all synthic isn't destroyed then why did the catalyst say that all synthic (any AI, VI, and cybernics, not just those with reaper tech) life would be destroyed.

Does anyone around here actually get the concept of a "lie"?, because amongst all the posts it's hard to see.

There is nothing to suggest he is lying, plus you don't get to find out if he was. So why should we assume?

[1490]

Jessica may just be speculating, sure, but on the topic of speculation: do you necessarily believe what the catalyst says? I personally thought it was B.S: the best way to convince someone to be evil is to give them a choice, but make the evil choice look way better. We didn't SEE any other synthetic life but the Reapers get destroyed, so unless they show that in the new DLC, I personally feel that the catalyst was lying to push you to favor the Reapers (control or synthesis).

[Clayless]

1490 wrote...

Jessica may just be speculating, sure, but on the topic of speculation: do you necessarily believe what the catalyst says? I personally thought it was B.S: the best way to convince someone to be evil is to give them a choice, but make the evil choice look way better. We didn't SEE any other synthetic life but the Reapers get destroyed, so unless they show that in the new DLC, I personally feel that the catalyst was lying to push you to favor the Reapers (control or synthesis).

Technically Shepard sees none of this.

[DarkShadow]

So, they saw people didn't like that part, so they're now saying they actually did not die.

Ok, now everyone sing along with me "...we making s**t up as we wish..."

[rachellouise]

I agree with other replies though... if destroy finishes everything nicely, what's the point of the other two 'choices'?..and making them require higher EMS at that?

[Chrillze]

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Proof?

If its true... then bioware can shove their "artistic" integrity up their arse, because it doesn't exist.

I know people wanted a happy ending, but why pick anything else other than destroy if that is the case? I know people want to feel validated in destroy because shepard lives, but it removes CHOICE at the end of the game when the choice is the only true choice that matters in the entire series.

At least right now we have 3 different choices all with their pros and cons, they do this and there is absolutely no reason to pick anything else other than destroy, which is a joke.

Because some people don't want a happy ending and will still pick the other options?

[Oldbones2]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

According to Jessica Merizan Twitter[*]The geth survive, it's just that their Reaper code is disabled.[*]EDI will not die because "Reaper Tech" functions are no longer avalaible
[*] Functions that were completely Reaper tech would be disabled, but human tech/synthetics should still be OK  I know shes just a Community Manager but still, she has to have some insight in the game, especially if she saying all these things, remember these were questions asked on Twitter and shes answering them.
So If this is true does this make Destroy the best ending and What does this mean to the Geth.
[*]Edit: I'm not 100% putting my trust that these are facts, Just putting up what she said. LOTS OF SPECULATION.........

She has no more information that any other player.
She is giving you her opinion, her interpretation.

[MJF JD]

if this speculation is true, which we wont know for some months...the only loss i see is that maybe the geth will lose their independence and the Quarians will have to suck it up and build their immunity over a long time like they had anticipated having to do.

[DJBare]

rachellouise wrote...
There is nothing to suggest he is lying, plus you don't get to find out if he was. So why should we assume?

Why would there be anything to suggest he is lying, would that not defeat the purpose of a lie?

This thing, being, starbrat, has been operating a plan for billions of years, it's now under threat, that's a real good reason to lie, if my survival were under threat and a lie can save me, then I will lie.

Everything suggest the same approach a confidence trickster would take, reduced threat 'child', tell the person what they want to hear, increase their confidence in your words, I've studied the con game and that's why I do not take things on face value, even if there is merit to their words.

Modifié par DJBare, 12 avril 2012 - 12:57 .

[Balmung31]

Chrillze wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Proof?

If its true... then bioware can shove their "artistic" integrity up their arse, because it doesn't exist.

I know people wanted a happy ending, but why pick anything else other than destroy if that is the case? I know people want to feel validated in destroy because shepard lives, but it removes CHOICE at the end of the game when the choice is the only true choice that matters in the entire series.

At least right now we have 3 different choices all with their pros and cons, they do this and there is absolutely no reason to pick anything else other than destroy, which is a joke.

Because some people don't want a happy ending and will still pick the other options?

If ever there were sacrificial endings for Shepard, than Synthesis and Control is it.  Those people can stay satisfied. 

[CrutchCricket]

Balmung31 wrote...

Hepatitis P wrote...

War, war never Changes

(Old Snake from MGS4)

"...War has changed..."

This thread. You win it.

[Balmung31]

MJF JD wrote...

if this speculation is true, which we wont know for some months...the only loss i see is that maybe the geth will lose their independence and the Quarians will have to suck it up and build their immunity over a long time like they had anticipated having to do.

Yeah, that'd kinda suck, but I could live with it.  After all, Tali has adapted to Shepard anyway, so no worries there. 

Plus, they would still have the idea of what the Geth were doing to strengthen their immune systems, so they could possibly simulate it somehow.  Probably less effective, but still something. 

Modifié par Balmung31, 12 avril 2012 - 01:02 .

[Sgt.Catman]

This is exactly what happens when you make a crappy ending, and attempt to salvage it. It just turns into a giant mess.

[rachellouise]

Balmung31 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Proof?

If its true... then bioware can shove their "artistic" integrity up their arse, because it doesn't exist.

I know people wanted a happy ending, but why pick anything else other than destroy if that is the case? I know people want to feel validated in destroy because shepard lives, but it removes CHOICE at the end of the game when the choice is the only true choice that matters in the entire series.

At least right now we have 3 different choices all with their pros and cons, they do this and there is absolutely no reason to pick anything else other than destroy, which is a joke.

Because some people don't want a happy ending and will still pick the other options?

If ever there were sacrificial endings for Shepard, than Synthesis and Control is it.  Those people can stay satisfied. 

but I think most people chose to sacrifice shepard, so they wouldn't have to sacrifice the geth. :/

[wantedman dan]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

According to Jessica Merizan Twitter

[Chrillze]

rachellouise wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Proof?

If its true... then bioware can shove their "artistic" integrity up their arse, because it doesn't exist.

I know people wanted a happy ending, but why pick anything else other than destroy if that is the case? I know people want to feel validated in destroy because shepard lives, but it removes CHOICE at the end of the game when the choice is the only true choice that matters in the entire series.

At least right now we have 3 different choices all with their pros and cons, they do this and there is absolutely no reason to pick anything else other than destroy, which is a joke.

Because some people don't want a happy ending and will still pick the other options?

If ever there were sacrificial endings for Shepard, than Synthesis and Control is it.  Those people can stay satisfied. 

but I think most people chose to sacrifice shepard, so they wouldn't have to sacrifice the geth. :/

I chose to sacrifice one of my characters because I felt that it would fit that character. 

[rachellouise]

Imperium Alpha wrote...

DJBare wrote...

rachellouise wrote...
There is nothing to suggest he is lying, plus you don't get to find out if he was. So why should we assume?

Why would there be anything to suggest he is lying, would that not defeat the purpose of a lie?

This thing, being, starbrat, has been operating a plan for billions of years, it's now under threat, that's a real good reason to lie, if my survival were under threat and a lie can save me, then I will lie.

Everything suggest the same approach a confidence trickster would take, reduced threat 'child', tell the person what they want to hear, increase their confidence in your words, I've studied the con game and that's why I do not take things on face value, even if there is merit to their words.

WHEN SOMEONE LIE YOU NEED TO SHOW IT ELSE WE DON'T KNOW IF HE IS LYING!!! 

Like this clever thing whatever that is.

Again, why assume he's lying? We could assume as a being of light, he is unable to lie. 
We can assume anything.

[rachellouise]

Chrillze wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Proof?

If its true... then bioware can shove their "artistic" integrity up their arse, because it doesn't exist.

I know people wanted a happy ending, but why pick anything else other than destroy if that is the case? I know people want to feel validated in destroy because shepard lives, but it removes CHOICE at the end of the game when the choice is the only true choice that matters in the entire series.

At least right now we have 3 different choices all with their pros and cons, they do this and there is absolutely no reason to pick anything else other than destroy, which is a joke.

Because some people don't want a happy ending and will still pick the other options?

If ever there were sacrificial endings for Shepard, than Synthesis and Control is it.  Those people can stay satisfied. 

but I think most people chose to sacrifice shepard, so they wouldn't have to sacrifice the geth. :/

I chose to sacrifice one of my characters because I felt that it would fit that character. 

My shepard wouldn't sacrifice herself if there was no need to.

[Balmung31]

CrutchCricket wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

Hepatitis P wrote...

War, war never Changes

(Old Snake from MGS4)

"...War has changed..."

This thread. You win it.

Yay!

Seriously, though, I always found this extremly hilarious.  Two games about war with contradictory thoughts about war. 

I wonder if anyone has ever made a video about this. 

[FS3D]

Khajiit Jzargo wrote...

According to Jessica Merizan Twitter-

Which is unreliable as a source at the best of times, especially with such doozies as "Normandy crash-landed on Earth... Or was it Mars?".

[*]The geth survive, it's just that their Reaper code is disabled.

That's not exactly better. You take away the one thing that they were just granted... Individuality.

Might as well have wiped them out, as it's the same thing... Taking them back from individual self-awareness to having to be networked all over again in order to have more personality than a Varren.

[*]EDI will not die because "Reaper Tech" functions are no longer avalaible

That's debatable, but there are a lot of inconsistencies in the game as to this point. For one thing, in the Synthesis "ending", she steps out with Joker, despite earlier having stated that she exists primarily within the Normandy's AI core... After the Normandy had crashed, and presumably lost power.

[*] Functions that were completely Reaper tech would be disabled, but human tech/synthetics should still be OK

This is entirely speculative without a shred of supporting canonicity within the game itself.

I know shes just a Community Manager but still, she has to have some insight in the game, especially if she saying all these things, remember these were questions asked on Twitter and shes answering them.
So If this is true does this make Destroy the best ending and What does this mean to the Geth.

She has previously made several contradictory assertions on her Twitter feed regarding several key points in the game. Relying on anything she said to any degree more than a pinch of salt is a fruitless exercise.

I have nothing against her personally, and I was rather disgusted to see people making personal attacks on her Twitter feed, attacks that are completely unjustified, but while I would never tell her not to speculate on the ME universe, I would advise people not to get their hopes up or take too seriously any claims she makes.

[Alexius]

rachellouise wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

Balmung31 wrote...

Chrillze wrote...

Vigil_N7 wrote...

Proof?

If its true... then bioware can shove their "artistic" integrity up their arse, because it doesn't exist.

I know people wanted a happy ending, but why pick anything else other than destroy if that is the case? I know people want to feel validated in destroy because shepard lives, but it removes CHOICE at the end of the game when the choice is the only true choice that matters in the entire series.

At least right now we have 3 different choices all with their pros and cons, they do this and there is absolutely no reason to pick anything else other than destroy, which is a joke.

Because some people don't want a happy ending and will still pick the other options?

If ever there were sacrificial endings for Shepard, than Synthesis and Control is it.  Those people can stay satisfied. 

but I think most people chose to sacrifice shepard, so they wouldn't have to sacrifice the geth. :/

I chose to sacrifice one of my characters because I felt that it would fit that character. 

My shepard wouldn't sacrifice herself if there was no need to.

In DA:O many chose to sacrifice their Warden even though survival was one option. They thought it was a better ending to their story. I don't see why Destroy would be the default option to many just because they assume the geth and EDI can survive. You are still told the cycle will start all over again and peace won't last. And if you leave the geth hanging around, according to Starchild's logic there's a huge possibility that the cycle will start again sooner than later.