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[FluffyScarf]

DA2: Strike 1
TOR: Strike 2
ME3: Strike 3

Maybe when the next BW game doesn't have MP, Kinect, Allers and other pointless additions, they'll be worth buying from. Notice how Bethesda didn't include MP? Or completely worthless characters? Notice how they fully support and encourage player mods?

Modifié par FluffyScarf, 12 avril 2012 - 08:07 .

[CG Drum]

Well I'll certainly not pre-order one of their games again - my trust in them has gone. I bought DA2 and ME3 pre-order, DA2 I returned (didn't like at all!) and ME3 although good has flaws.
But if customer reviews were good on new games perhaps I might buy when the price drops,

[chester013]

I'd be wary, the last 3 games failed to deliver (though to be fair, most of ME3 was damned good) so I'd hang fire until I knew it was good.

I used to be able to trust that a bioware game would be awesome, that is no longer the case and I can't say I'm happy about it.

[Flytricks]

on the fence still... This must be what it feels like to be in an abusive relationship. It's just to hard to make a clean break. Perhaps one more late night booty call. Maybe even breakfast. but if i get hurt again that's it I'm gone for good.

[chester013]

FluffyScarf wrote...

DA2: Strike 1
TOR: Strike 2
ME3: Strike 3

Maybe when the next BW game doesn't have MP, Kinect, Allers and other pointless additions, they'll be worth buying from. Notice how Bethesda didn't include MP? Or completely worthless characters? Notice how they fully support and encourage player mods?

Bethesda is a (mostly) great example of how it's done. I've seen cynical analysts say "you can't give in to customer demands! It will lead to long development times! Surely you want new games faster you grubby little bedroom dweller!" 

Well nobody minded the long development time of Skyrim, sure it didn't actually work when it came out but it's one hell of a game. Player modding has built longevity into the game and a rabidly devoted fan base. There's also a sense that the fans have some ownership over the game too, which the total opposite of the message we have from BW following the ending debacle. Skyrim is a game you play for years, ME3 feels like another throwaway title right now.

Modifié par chester013, 12 avril 2012 - 08:27 .

[Lolomlas]

I don't think that this was the last game I bought, but that is certain, I won't preorder another game.

[CDRSkyShepard]

I wasn't planning on buying DA3 (I never got into DA, anyway), and I usually buy games based on their own merits, not based on what company makes them. We'll have to see. It'll be on a case-by-case basis, as it has always been.

I think the next game I might buy is Halo 4. At least Microsoft gives their people time to properly finish and polish their games without a rushed schedule.

[chester013]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I wasn't planning on buying DA3 (I never got into DA, anyway), and I usually buy games based on their own merits, not based on what company makes them. We'll have to see. It'll be on a case-by-case basis, as it has always been.

I think the next game I might buy is Halo 4. At least Microsoft gives their people time to properly finish and polish their games without a rushed schedule.

The key difference is financial, EA are treading water so need to keep products coming thick and fast. Microsoft are sitting on vast amounts of cash.

[HooblaDGN]

Yes, as of now... this was my last BW purchase

I'm really sad to say that. Never thought it would come to that.

But... my gods, I remember how excited my family was when we picked up that game at midnight...

And now we can hardly stand to touch the single-player campaign. It really sucks to see family finish the game after you, too. Should you have warned them? I don't know. I tried to hint a little. I don't think it really helped that blunt slap in the face.

The rest of the game has massive, glaring problems, yes... The whole Rachnii queen deal highlights this well: regardless of previous decisions, your game largely plays the same. This is not what Mass Effect should be, and it's certainly not what was marketed to me. But I overlooked that in hope that there would be a fantastic finale... lol

The multiplayer is, at best, a silly distraction that gets stale quickly, even with friends...

Sigh. I'm going to stop analyzing there before I get sad again.

EVEN IF BW fixes this whole thing by putting in free, NEW, varied endings... I'm still going to be very cautious of buying their products in the future I know that removes all monetary incentive for them to fix the ending, but, well... there it is. They can still fix it for the purpose of creating GOOD art. Because this is not it.

Modifié par HooblaDGN, 12 avril 2012 - 08:32 .

[Spanky Magoo]

As it stands now? maybe, Im just not going to be hyped for anything they make like I used to. Ill wait until it comes out and see what other people say like I do with other games. Bioware isnt on my bad list they simply moved from the good list to no list lol.

[Maugrim]

I'm still good for buying things from the Dragon Age team. Loved both DA games and both had their flaws, at least DAII could honestly claim that time/funding was the chief cause of the things I disliked. Plus in general I just like the way the DA team operates better, always have even before the ME3 ending debacle. That just reinforced my feelings. Basically I am just wary of buying things where Casey Hudson is the Exec Producer/Final word and Mac Walters is Lead Writer. They can be part of the team but unless the ending is changed and fixed I'd prefer them not to be the ones signing off on big decisions.

[CDRSkyShepard]

chester013 wrote...

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I wasn't planning on buying DA3 (I never got into DA, anyway), and I usually buy games based on their own merits, not based on what company makes them. We'll have to see. It'll be on a case-by-case basis, as it has always been.

I think the next game I might buy is Halo 4. At least Microsoft gives their people time to properly finish and polish their games without a rushed schedule.

The key difference is financial, EA are treading water so need to keep products coming thick and fast. Microsoft are sitting on vast amounts of cash.

That approach doesn't seem to be doing well for them, though, in the long run.

[CrazyRah]

I'm not going to say that i will never buy another Bioware game again but i will be very skeptical and cautious with Bioware in the future

[AlanC9]

HooblaDGN wrote...
The rest of the game has massive, glaring problems, yes... The whole Rachnii queen deal highlights this well: regardless of previous decisions, your game largely plays the same. This is not what Mass Effect should be, and it's certainly not what was marketed to me. But I overlooked that in hope that there would be a fantastic finale... lol

One of the strange things about Mass Effect is how many fans, even long-time Bio fans, expected ME to do things that Bio games don't do. Bio's never believed in locking out content because of earlier player decisions, or thought that implementing alternate paths was worth the dev time.

From where I sit , ME3's a pretty typical Bio game, with the usual strengths and weaknesses. A somewhat less happy ending than typical, but that suits me fine. So yeah, I;ll probably buy the next thing they release, unless I find out something about that game that I don't like.

[Aslanasadi]

The Mass Effect 3 endings were the only thing I ever really disliked about a BioWare game. Besides that I enjoyed all the other games and because of that I will buy DA 3 and other games, besides maybe any future Mass Effect products.

Mass Effect 3 was a great game until the endings. These were absolute not my taste and when this is the route the Devs and Writers will follow in future Mass Effect games, than I rather won't play them.

[Darth Wraith]

I'll happily buy their RPGs, like Dragon Age 3 when it comes out. Not so interested in their Command & Conquer title, but that has more to do with my taste in gaming than any issues with BW's craftsmanship.

[Reptilian Rob]

CDRSkyShepard wrote...

I wasn't planning on buying DA3 (I never got into DA, anyway), and I usually buy games based on their own merits, not based on what company makes them. We'll have to see. It'll be on a case-by-case basis, as it has always been.

I think the next game I might buy is Halo 4. At least Microsoft gives their people time to properly finish and polish their games without a rushed schedule.

Will you be my co-op buddy?

[blu42]

Lolomlas wrote...

I don't think that this was the last game I bought, but that is certain, I won't preorder another game.

+1

[Dominator24]

All I can say for sure is that I will not preorder anymore from Bioware. DA3 will need to not only shine but have good reviews for pplI I trust before I even touch it with a 2m stick.

[Farbautisonn]

Unless DA3 is a combination of witcher and PS:T I likely wont buy it. And it wont be.

People wake up and smell the maple leaf cruch.

Bioware has taken the direction they chose. They now cater to the widest possible fanbase. That means a DA3 thats even more streamlined, more ****** and cameltoes and more pew pew.

How do I know that? Because thats been the "streamlining" path with all Bioware games since DA2. Despite the "debacles" that have been so plentyfull. Bioware went from communicating with its original fanbase to communicating TO its original fanbase.

Besides. Any new Bioware title will come under intense scrutiny from its original fanbase, trolls and malconents who remember DA2, the Bazaar debacle, Deception and now ME3. And all games have flaws. So those will be hammered upon. Especially since any new bioware RPG/storydriven title will be compared directly to Witcher, Wasteland2 and anything Bethesda and any number of Indies can cook up. The DA3 release will likely see the release of other RPGs. Because the marketing depts of other companies arent stupid. They know for full well that their own games will get a free ride compared to the scrutiny that Bioware will go under. And if their games are semi decent or even good they will shine even more compared to Biowares products.

Which leads me to the final Irony. EA bought Bioware to expand and enhance its storydriven/rpg profile. If Bioware cant deliver, then there really is no need for Bioware to exist as a label. And as things are now, the ME franchise and Bioware is more synonymous with getting EA the title "worst company of the US 2012" than with "great storytelling and staggering commercial success".


But No. I will likely not be buying another Bioware product. I allready "preordered" Wasteland2.

[MC P Pants]

I will never pre-order again, thats for sure - da2 was worse than the original, i pre-ordered that, big mistake. I was super pumped for me3, pre-ordered that, but since experiancing that i have no reason to be excited about anything this company does in the future. Mass effect could have been one of gamings most amazing achievements, but the whole thing collapsed on itself with a horrible ending and an embarrasing scramble to satiate fans after the fact. I feel embarrased to have been excited about something that honestly turned out to be complete garbage.
I have no idea how this game reviewed highly - unless you ignore how the whole thing actually ended, then it would be a fantastic game. But they chose to make it so there is no point to anything, nothing makes sense and replaying it yeilds nothing new. Way to go bioware - you guys are on fire. I will consider renting their games in the future, if people i know recommend it enough, but they will never get my money day 1 ever again.

[vertigo72]

nope

[Soulfirexp]

Most likely not due to DA3

[Maias227]

Nope indeed.

[Rudy Lis]

Farbautisonn wrote...

Bioware has taken the direction they chose. They now cater to the widest possible fanbase. That means a DA3 thats even more streamlined, more ****** and cameltoes and more pew pew.

What "pew-pew"? It's fantasy game. Of course there are old smoke powder muzzleloaders, but then it'll be pew>1 minute pause>pew>rinse-repeat. And lot of smoke particles after every shot!

Farbautisonn wrote...

But No. I will likely not be buying another Bioware product. I allready "preordered" Wasteland2.

Second that.

Modifié par Rudy Lis, 12 avril 2012 - 10:36 .