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[niko20]

I have reset powers on her three times and tried different combos, using Bubble with damage to enemy, using Bubble for ally health max regen, etc, and it just isn't worth it.

The Biotic bubble just is too hard to place to make it worth using. And the other powers are pull and Reave. Reave works pretty darn good, but you can't cause a biotic explosion with it along with pull on shielded enemies until you remove their barrier or armor. And the justicar does not have anything to make the easy to do. I guess you could use an appropriate weapon.

For weapons I've tried using just a light pistol for 200% regen, didn't seem to work that much, I mean I could do bioitic combos faster but against shielded like Marauders you have to get their shields down first.

Using the biotic bubble for protection just doesn't work as good as you would think, because most people just run around the map a lot, the bubble requires them to sit still.

So I'm undecided whether damage or protection. It seems damage is probably more useful, since you really won't get much benefit of protection when everyone leaves the bubble all the time anyway. And with damage you can coax banshees to go into the bubble, and if you do, they fall FAST.


But really the Justicar seems a bit weak yet to me compared to an Asari Adept.

-niko

[Wynne]

I would've preferred for her to have Reave and Throw or something like that. It would've made her less like my drell adept, whom I've already played a lot.

[Apl_Juice]

Asari Justicar is a better Drell Adept.

They're best played when co-operating with others. Plus, on Gold, people bunker down a lot more than on Silver Bronze.

[MissMinaethiel]

If you don't want her, I'll take her o_o I want that class. That sphere saved my life today as a GI in a hacking objective

[Cuddlezarro]

Apl_J wrote...

Asari Justicar is a better Drell Adept.

They're best played when co-operating with others. Plus, on Gold, people bunker down a lot more than on Silver Bronze.

better? no different? yes

drell adept does a boat load more damage while the justicar is better at support

[GodlessPaladin]

Asari Justicar is one of the best classes in the game against reapers.  I am just coming out and saying that right now, early as it is. She utterly trounces the poor bastards.  Nothing gets through her, and it's hilarious watching banshees staggerlock and die the instant they try to cross the bubble.

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Apl_J wrote...

Asari Justicar is a better Drell Adept.

They're best played when co-operating with others. Plus, on Gold, people bunker down a lot more than on Silver Bronze.

better? no different? yes

drell adept does a boat load more damage while the justicar is better at support

A boat load more damage? Try aggressive use of offensive bubble and watch banshees staggerlock for the entire rest of their life.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 12 avril 2012 - 02:32 .

[AxeloftheKey]

I like her so far. The Bubble works best for a Sniper adept. I've made an effective teammate.

[Kimori]

Justicar doesn't cater well to the 'lone wolf' playstyle that's prevalent in bronze/silver. If people actually COOPERATE with her, she's a great teammate to have. Whenever I see one in a game I fetch my human sentinel and we blow up ALL the things together.

[GodlessPaladin]

Justicar actually DOES do well as a lone wolf, too.  She is very capable of soloing or carrying teams.  She is just EVEN BETTER with teammates. 

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 12 avril 2012 - 02:30 .

[Drummernate]

Tried it for one match with only bubble maxed towards shield regen bonuses.

Didn't even notice a difference. :/

But Reave is great, so maybe I will respec for that.

[GodlessPaladin]

Drummernate wrote...

Tried it for one match with only bubble maxed towards shield regen bonuses.

Didn't even notice a difference. :/

But Reave is great, so maybe I will respec for that.

Try using offensive bubble aggressively in combination with reave.  Forego pull.

[Malanek]

She isn't as good as the Asari Adept or Human Sentinel but that's not a bad thing. Those two can dish out damage a little too easily.

Of course in combination with another Adept/Sentinel she becomes pretty deadly.

Modifié par Malanek999, 12 avril 2012 - 02:37 .

[evileat]

It's not fair to compare the Justicar to the Adept. They're meant to play very differently.

The Adept is all about blowing through your enemies with biotic detonations with stasis thrown in for some CC. The Justicar requires more controlled play. Don't expect to top the scoring charts because you won't be blowing everything apart with detonations. She's meant more for support than anything else.

Sphere and Reave can both be specced to soften up your enemies while at the same time making you and your teammates tougher. Pull is nice for setting up biotic explosions, but I personally don't use it. The Asari Justicar passive T6 has the option to make ARs 30% lighter. I take it and strap on a Revenant to lay down some support fire or if I'm in the mood, a Saber to pop some heads.

Being a support oriented class, the Justicar helps to maximize the potential of your squad members. So she'll shine brightest if you're playing with decent people on your team or with mates who can know how to make best use of your abilities.

[kww75]

I dunno, seeing a banshee not touch a team cause of that bubble, make the justicar look actually quite awesome in my books. And that's coming from a sniper at heart.

[veramis]

The +10% dmg reduction and faster shield regen can be really good if teammates bunker down. But 80% of public games on any difficulty, people are too dumb to do it. I use to think defensive bubble was better, but if you play mainly public, I think offensive makes a lot more sense, even though it takes a lot of planning to use right.

I'd also add, maybe 40% of public gold games with other biotics, people don't try to team up with you for biotic explosions. It's often very hard for a justicar adept to do well on a team simply because most people on public are crazy, so you have to rely on offensive bubble to do your own biotic explosions on armored enemies.

Modifié par veramis, 12 avril 2012 - 03:01 .

[WhooMovingTarget]

... and adept that can stop a Banshee from touching them?

Good god. Yes. YESSSSSSS.

[Kamuchi]

So far i like her (after 3 resets and new one underway) with defensive bubble and offensive reave

As her powers are pretty useless otherwise, i run with a mattock X with ammo/ap mod, the score isn`t that great, usually 2 or 3, but your buddies (if they have a spawn clue) will start hanging around you with the higher waves

Besides the ammo issue, the mattock dishes out some nice damage alongside the reave
Pull i find abit useless when using the radius reave to soften the lowers and if other biotics know what they are doing, they will just use throw on the stacking blue glowing mobs

Defensive bubble i use at the usual start/camping area`s and then just mainly for selfe defense when people just go running around, also works nice for during a revive, do a reave, take the enemy down, throw a bubble and you can revive with good odds and your team mate won`t die on the spot cause of a lack of shields

Modifié par Kamuchi, 12 avril 2012 - 03:05 .

[fixit6]

WhooMovingTarget wrote...

... and adept that can stop a Banshee from touching them?

Good god. Yes. YESSSSSSS.

I could play an AA instead, top the charts and kill that banshee 10x faster. Or. I could play AJ and make others look good and be dead last. Ah, choices.

[Assumedkilla]

I thought her sphere was going to be bulletproof, like a Halo bubble shield, so I thought she was kinda lame once seeing her in-game.

Stasis > Sphere
Warp > Reave
Throw > Pull

I might use her for fun on silver, but I like the AA better, especially on gold.

[Trakarg]

Reave sets up explosions.

Defensive bubble is godly. 40% mitigation and 25% faster shield recharge? yes please.

Throw a carnifex on top of that and you have a character that can support teams and score high.

[Trakarg]

Assumedkilla wrote...

I thought her sphere was going to be bulletproof, like a Halo bubble shield, so I thought she was kinda lame once seeing her in-game.

Stasis > Sphere
Warp > Reave
Throw > Pull

I might use her for fun on silver, but I like the AA better, especially on gold.

Warp is better than reave?  Wut?  AOE reave is amazing.  Not to mention my justicar can get 80% damage reduction with it.

[Kittstalkur]

niko20 wrote...

I have reset powers on her three times and tried different combos, using Bubble with damage to enemy, using Bubble for ally health max regen, etc, and it just isn't worth it.

You're kidding, right? Please tell me you're kidding.

The Biotic bubble just is too hard to place to make it worth using.

Not really. It's a godsend for any objective, find a spot of cover and throw it down, enjoy being as tough as a enraged Krogan sentinel between it and the Reave damage reduction.

And the other powers are pull and Reave. Reave works pretty darn good, but you can't cause a biotic explosion with it along with pull on shielded enemies until you remove their barrier or armor. And the justicar does not have anything to make the easy to do. I guess you could use an appropriate weapon.

The Justicar has a weight reduction on assault rifles, instead of heavy pistols. Not ideal, but they're great at stripping shields. Reave spam in combination with ANY class that has a detonation spec'd warp is also -amazing-, especially when combined with the bubble for massive amounts of damage reduction.

For weapons I've tried using just a light pistol for 200% regen, didn't seem to work that much, I mean I could do bioitic combos faster but against shielded like Marauders you have to get their shields down first.

You could always pick up an Avenger or Phaeston and keep 200% with the weight reduction.

Using the biotic bubble for protection just doesn't work as good as you would think, because most people just run around the map a lot, the bubble requires them to sit still.

Sure, on Bronze or Silver where it's easy enough to run around the map a lot. A lot of gold games have a few ideal-to-hold locations, and the bubble can work wonders on those.

But really the Justicar seems a bit weak yet to me compared to an Asari Adept.

Pretty much all of the adepts are more a support class, or work in tandem with other biotics. The Asari Adept is the only one who can really work well on her own. But one person with Reave and one person with Warp can clear rooms incredibly quickly. Easiest WhiteGethGold I ever did was me on the AJ, a friend on a Human Sentinel, a Salarian Infiltrator sniping and a Salarian Engineer. Dropping bubbles on hack objectives made them an absolute joke. In two games, we only used one missile, if I recall correctly.

[Assumedkilla]

Trakarg wrote...

Assumedkilla wrote...

I thought her sphere was going to be bulletproof, like a Halo bubble shield, so I thought she was kinda lame once seeing her in-game.

Stasis > Sphere
Warp > Reave
Throw > Pull

I might use her for fun on silver, but I like the AA better, especially on gold.

Warp is better than reave?  Wut?  AOE reave is amazing.  Not to mention my justicar can get 80% damage reduction with it.

I'd rather do warp + throw versus an atlas, other armor, geth, etc.

[fixit6]

Ah well if there was a class that did absolutely nothing and could not even carry a gun, there will be 12 videos up youtube showing them soloing gold with it and saying it's fine. Special snowflakes or something....mumble mumble.

[BraveLToaster]

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of Reave killing everything everywhere.