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[mrcanada]

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

to be honest Pull ruins the Asari Justicar, if it had throw instead i would use it more often,

Even on gold, it is easy to strip shields with your Carnifex or find enemies shredded by teammates to pull.  All that is in between reaving anything in sight.  Throw would be better yes, but pull works.

[sonogi]

yeah i still dont quite get how youd get on top of the enemy to light them up with the bubble. seems very situational, but i respecced to test it myself.

[Unnamed_Shadow]

mrcanada wrote...

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

to be honest Pull ruins the Asari Justicar, if it had throw instead i would use it more often,

Even on gold, it is easy to strip shields with your Carnifex or find enemies shredded by teammates to pull.  All that is in between reaving anything in sight.  Throw would be better yes, but pull works.

i have gotten used to the Asari adept killing Guardians with a mail shot with my Paladin, so i do find pull rather useless, if pull actually worked on swarmers i would use it though, i hate those little bastards.

[mrcanada]

A Justicar, vanilla Asari Adept combo is unstoppable.

[Cuddlezarro]

mrcanada wrote...

Cuddlezarro wrote...

Apl_J wrote...

Asari Justicar is a better Drell Adept.

They're best played when co-operating with others. Plus, on Gold, people bunker down a lot more than on Silver Bronze.

better? no different? yes

drell adept does a boat load more damage while the justicar is better at support

Exactly how does the Drell do more damage?  You don't spec grenades, so your abilities are exactly the same. Drell is absolutely useless now with the Justicar in place, unless you specifically spec grenades in a team of regulars you usually play with.  They're the same, but sphere is more useful.  Both Drell's have no reason to be used anymore.

if you arnt taking cluster grenades on drell then of coarse its gonna be useless

but cluster grenades+area reave even on gold is pretty much a mini on demand nuke that does a boatload of damage

and if for some reason you need more than 3 grenades per round you can just use the ammo restore packs since 1 refills all your grenades

Modifié par Cuddlezarro, 12 avril 2012 - 06:08 .

[Crimson-Engage]

I would have preferred if the shield actually stopped bullets.

[HolyAvenger]

Throw+Reave+Bubble would JA overpowered. A tank-cannon.

[Unnamed_Shadow]

Crimson-Engage wrote...

I would have preferred if the shield actually stopped bullets.

that would be asking to much, but a good idea would be that the more Justicars you have on a match the stronger the Bubble is....

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just use the bubble and snipe from it. I would probably use pull with sniping, since sniper rifles can do the same type of damage as reave.

As a teammate the only time it was useful for me was when we had hacking.

[Aaperture]

Is it possible to put bubbles on top of each other and have double protection?

[Yev001]

Aaperture wrote...

Is it possible to put bubbles on top of each other and have double protection?

Yes i was tanking gold yesterday. 2 primes shooting at you... Was fun.

A few of points

1. Bubble can setoff a BE just by casting it again
2. Warp evolution seems to have an internal CD of about 5 sec. This makes it worthless
3. Reave spamming stacks and will put you top of the score board if you have someone detonating
4. Fitness shield regen with bubble shield regen will give you back shields in under 2 Secs. This also stacks and 2 bubbles will give you back shields in about 1 Sec.
5. Placing bubbles on infiltrators is pointless because they do.t get a damage boost and nothing is shooting at a good infiltrator.

[godlike13]

Yev001 wrote...
1. Bubble can setoff a BE just by casting it again

I think more people need to under stand this. Casting Bubble will detonate biotics with or with out the warp evolution.
I just got done playing a match with my Asari Justicar and 2 other Asari Justicars in my party, and they did not seem to get this. Or that Reave on Reave does not cause Biotic Explosions. 

Modifié par godlike13, 12 avril 2012 - 07:16 .

[Andibandit]

sonogi wrote...

yeah i still dont quite get how youd get on top of the enemy to light them up with the bubble. seems very situational, but i respecced to test it myself.

easy:

Run towards enemy
Survival pack
Survival pack
bubble
run back
medi gel
medi gel
medi gel
medi gel
medi gel
Revived by teammate
leave downed teammate, run for cover
Evil Laugh as enemies are stunlocked/killed in your bubble.

rinse and repeat

Modifié par Andibandit, 12 avril 2012 - 09:09 .

[Crimson-Engage]

Juromaro wrote...

Unnamed_Shadow wrote...

Crimson-Engage wrote...

I would have preferred if the shield actually stopped bullets.

that would be asking to much, but a good idea would be that the more Justicars you have on a match the stronger the Bubble is....

That would make all matches consist mostly of justicar, gotta have some heavy hitters in there or things will take forever to kill

They could balance it out like this.

1- In order to use the shield you have to stand still with your arms out and be standing in ONE spot. Movement will cause the shield to stop working. This limits the team to only 3 players able to actually fight. So no, there wouldn't be a lot of Justicars because if they all did that then they would be screwed as the enemies got closes and came into the shield.

2- The shield ONLY stops bullets. It can stop rockets, grenades and other things but if those objects hit the shield it drains the Justicar users barrier.



So it could work.

[marshalleck]

Wynne wrote...

I would've preferred for her to have Reave and Throw or something like that. It would've made her less like my drell adept, whom I've already played a lot.

Terrible idea. If they did this, they might as well delete the drell adept.

[powerph]

AJA + AA, have pull at 6 for the biotic detonations extra dmg, Use the shield defensively and just AoE spam Reave while the AA spams warp/throw to blow **** up, trust me everything will die. It's just so easy. I unlocked the AJA in my 2nd spectre pack after the patch and I'm just loving her.

Does require an adept who actually attacks the same targets that u reave (which is why I run with 200% cooldown reduction and reave spam everything)

[D4rk50ul808]

The class is perfect the way it is. I play on the xbox and regularly stomp random/random gold runs while using her. We don't camp much (maybe this is why) we just move around the map as a unit. I play very offensively and I'm often the only adept in the group.

The bubble is a +25% incoming damage warp machine and since warp/reave detonate each other it can be used to clear entire rooms. Throw in the Disciple X and a predator for backup/long range and a few ranks of pull for situational stuff and you are unstoppable.

The bubble is referred to the kill box as nothing ever leaves it alive with the +25% damage and -25% armor resistance it causes.

[niko20]

Im not seeing this grand 80% damage reduction. And yes i used pistold as an experiment. My main weapon on her was a Mattock X. I was playing mostly silver games.

Pull is just damn useless. Anyway yes aoe reave kicks butt even though the sound is craaaazy. But still i dont feel like the bubble is that grear. It's awesome for taking down banshees but that's about it. And if you have a geth engineer turret that is nice too.

But i never saw any super awesome shield regen times inside the bubble. Even specced for full damage reduction a ravager will still pwn u in two to three shots.

[Audard]

BraveLToaster wrote...

I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of Reave killing everything everywhere.

best post in this thread

[vGriMz]

Maxed Power Damage.
Maxed Sphere for Warp.
Maxed Reave for damage.

Set up sphere.
Biotic Explosions everywhere.

[DarkSNIPE-TH]

Justicar are most tough in Adept class. it suit to play defensive role more than offense unlike other adept, it biotic bubble are great when come to hold ground like hacking or revive team mate it make you survive from prime or ravager 3 shot. while it hard to do biotic combo since pull don't work on boss but you still can reave boss and keep run until it die (i already do that to banshee on gold when other player all dead.). max bubble armor bonus and max reave aoe would be great to handle multiple enemy.
but sometime my bubble doesn't effect enemy with warp even they are 1st one who enter my bubble. which i can't biotic combo,  warp effect still un-reliable.

Modifié par DarkSNIPE-TH, 12 avril 2012 - 10:41 .

[GGW KillerTiger]

 Biotic bubble hard to place? That made my day. :happy:

[niko20]

I still disagree.

Biotic bubble is still pretty much useless except for maybe some objectives.

The reasons are many fold;

For "Offensive bubble" you have to try and get it in a good spot. AND if you have played AJ at all you will see enemies DONT JUST WALK INTO IT. They actually hesitate and stand outside it for a while. Even *if* they walk into it, it takes a while for the warp to take hold. It doesn't work as well as it should.

For "Defensive bubble", the problem is not only that everyone runs out of it anyway, AND against troops like Cerberus or Reapers they will usually toss a grenade inside it, forcing you to leave the bubble anyway.

It's still my opinion: Reave is awesome. But the pull and biotic bubble? Not so much. I mean pull is ok if you make sure to keep an eye out for things that can be pulled and then exploded with Reave.

The biggest problem with the class is yes, they are *support*. So if your team sucks, you will die fast no matter what. Just the way it is....

AOE Reave though, very powerful. My issue is with the bubble. I don't feel it's really that effective. I think it should have actually stopped incoming projectiles for a short while.

-niko

Modifié par niko20, 12 avril 2012 - 10:52 .