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[CroGamer002]

fle6isnow wrote...

lockdown51 wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

Don't we all become Borg in Synthesis ending?

See?! The Borg do win! The starchild said it is the final evolution of life! (I can't believe I'm using him as positive proof. I feel so dirty.)

You WILL be assimilated!

I just laughed hard.

[Bizbag]

It's unlikely the Reapers would fight theBorg in their prime; they'd have harvested the races that comprise the Borg before they were sufficiently advanced. Direct energy weapons seem to be effective against the Reapers, do the Borg might very well stand a good chance in straight combat. However, the Reapers would likely indoctrinate them; it's shown they can interfere with hive minds - the Rachni - and usurp control of drones. The war would likely be decided by whether the Reapers could indoctrinate enough agents before the war even began.

[Leozilla]

Byronic-Knight wrote...

They would team up.

"You will be assimilated." "Resistance is futile."

(Catalyst) "We helped them ascend." "Your extinction is inevitable." (Sovereign)

Their ideology and goals are identical. They only differ in form.

they have a lot of crossovers in their ideologies so I think they might just merge

[rma2110]

I think the Borg would get indoctronated pretty quickly. That Cerberus trooper with Reaper tech reminds me of a Borg.

Edit: if the Borg were being lead by Locutus, then the reapers will be assimilated or destroyed.

Modifié par rma2110, 12 avril 2012 - 08:44 .

[An English Gamer]

Filanwizard wrote...

Real problem for the Reapers would be the borg adapting to their red laser of doom.

Problem for the Borg after whupping the Reapers, the rest of the ME races use Kinetic weapons. a concept totally unknown to the borg. And then Tali or EDI would just Hack the collective the make the cubes explode while Shepard lays down covering fire with Garrus.

The reapers weapons are not lazers remember? They're closer to giant water guns.. Only with a magnetic superheated liquid that solidifies into millions of armour piercing shards when fired.

[Ad_Hoc]

Reapers would win.

I dont know much about star trek I think warp speed in ST means how much faster compared to the speed of light the ship goes. (correct me if im wrong). Borg are faster than fed. ships but their speeds are comparable.

Ships in ME travel at 12ly/day. reapers can go faster (again correct me if im wrong). So basically reapers can just avoid battles they dont want and engage when they feel like it.

Additionally if reapers can control Geth they can probably control Borg, tough this is beyond the point, it would be just a bonus.

[ninjawannabe]

lockdown51 wrote...

Borg. They adapt, the Reapers don't.

the reapers have no need to adapt because they already have.  According to Sovereign, they are the pinnacle of evolution.  For all we know, they could have destroyed a thousand foes like them or much stronger.  Not to mention that they have unprecidented hacking abilities and electronic warfare suites that could likely screw with there ability to adapt to there attacks.

I also believe that the borg would have very little, if any success adapting there sheilds to the reaper's particle beam, because their not dealing with a garden variety directed energy weapons like the phasers and disruptors.  It's channeling liquid iron uranium tungsten alloy up through a mass effect field that is both shaping the alloy into armor piercing progectiles and launching them very fast.  The way I see it the borg would be overwhelmed trying to comprehend what this unknown energy is (the mass effect field that is likely disrupting their shields and allowing the molten alloy to pass through them) on top of fighting off both the cyber warefare assault and attacks from the various mutated abominations that are aboard all the sovereign class reapers and harbinger.

[KieranW]

Not even that. The Feds can fire torps at high warp. Just do torp drive bys all day every day.

And yes, anyone using a ballistic weapon would quickly kick the Borgs collective ass, but the Reapers seem to like giant lasers so I have to give it to the Borg.

I doubt the Borg could adapt to the Reapers weapon. Despite appearing to be a 'laser' it is in fact a highly efficient Mass Accelerator. It accelerates an incredibly hot beam of superheated metal at the target. And what it cannot destroy, it can literally bury beneath tons of molten superheated metal which will, invariably, cool.

So unless the Borg are able to adapt to that, then, well... They're boned. Also! If they can be Indoctrinated, that would be a severe kick in the crotch. Or even turned into Husks. I mean, they're already pretty close. But hey! Could be possible.

[Necrotya]

None of those would win, Q would come and make them hug each other and make up Q FTW^^

[Zkyire]

Funkdrspot wrote...

The Reapers and it's not even remotely close. The Reapers are just as advanced but there's WAAAAAAAAY more of them than the Borg.

The Reapers are nowhere near as advanced.

Starfleet fires torpedoes that hit in the multi-megaton range, easily (and the Borg are more advanced than them).

Mass Effect weapons hit in the kiloton range. Star Trek weapons hit in the megaton range.

Not only that but the Collective vastly outnumbers them.

Fewer numbers and considerably worse technology = every single Reaper dead.

Modifié par Zkyire, 19 novembre 2012 - 01:42 .

[Alexraptor1]

I think the Borg would take a heavy pounding at first being caught off guard by kinetic weapons.
But if theres one thing the Borg do best it is Adapt.

Also I think the Borg have an edge over the reapers due to the extensive use of particle beam weapons, while defensive technology in the ME universe pretty much consits of "Kinetic Barriers"

Its concievable that in such a scenario the Borg might just take and dice up their cubes, from being huge juice targets into smaller ships and utilize swarm tactics to carve up the reapers.

And if a reaper were to be boarded it would be game over, as the Borg would inject nanoprobes to assimilate them, and ive seen no evidence of the Reapers having anything that could defeat nanoprobes in their arsenal.
Once assimilated a reaper would immensly add to the Borg's arsenal, as they would assimilate the technology for the reapers powerful Kinetic Barriers and adapt them to the rest of their ships, and greatly enhance assimilated reapers with Borg technology.

RESISTANCE IS FUTILE!

[Zaalbar]

It really depends, Next Generations Borg I think would put up a good fight but Voyager's Borg were so retarded they couldn't even take on 1 little ship.

Still, its one fight I'd buy tickets to see unless of cause it all ends with the Borg Queen making out with the Catalyst.

Modifié par zaalbar76, 19 novembre 2012 - 03:15 .

[Ironhandjustice]

The Borg are Catachild solution.

So, the reapers will venerate the borg as the solution, will obliterate any other race, and became friends. Eventually the borg will assimilate the reapers or they will became a reaper themselves.

Or, they will assimilate the reapers and then become a reaper.

[shodiswe]

I don't think the catalyst would consider the borg to be perfect example of synthesis, they would be seen as defects.
The Catalysts vision entails beings of freewill with the strengths of both organic and synthetic life. The Borg becommes hivemind thralls... Therefor the unfortunate effect of an overly agressive AI, the very thing the Catalyst is built to prevent.

[dorktainian]

anything that flies around in a huge cube deserves indoctrination.

[AgentStark]

Alright. Let's take this into scope. Shall we?

The Star Trek universe, by standard, has more and larger ships than the Mass Effect universe. In fact, a Reaper ship could be eradicated by a Galaxy class cruiser after a decent battle. The photon torpedoes alone would do the trick.

Also, with what we know about indoctrination, the Borg would have to be in close proximity to a Reaper ship for an extended period of time in order to be successfully indoctrinated. By that time, the Reaper ship would already have been eradicated or assimilated.

Now let's review Borg weaponry:

Borg Cutting Beam: Cuts through all known material
Gravemetric Torpedo: One of these has the capability to obliterate an Alliance Dreadnought and more.
Borg Tractor Beam: Yes. This is a weapon. It drains the shields of the target.

Defenses:
Electromagnetic Field: I really don't know the science behind this, but it's essentially a shield that defends against any attacks. This also has the ability to block out signals from outside sources. Chances are, this will also block out the Reaper's signals, so indoctrination is immediately useless.
Regeneration: The allocation of Borg drones within the ship to repair systems.

As you can see, the Borg already have the ability to destroy the Reapers using spacial warfare. There is no need to bring in drones.

However...

Borg Drones would definitly have a harder time with ground forces, but in the end, with Cubes and Spheres having superior firepower, the Reapers would be toast.

[SinerAthin]

I believe the Reapers would win.

The borg will assimilate their enemy and grow in a war of attrition, but to assimilate your enemy; you first have to survive the first attack.

The Reapers would just walk over them in the first hours, and the rest would just be a cleanup. There would be no oppertunity to assimilate anything.

Modifié par SinerAthin, 19 mars 2013 - 03:10 .

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[justafan]

Really depends. Who can travel faster for instance? Reapers can cross the galaxy in 20 years minimum, and I know that Trek vessels are significantly slower (IIRC the trip for voyager was supposed to be something like 70 years between quadrants). So reapers could just outrun anything the Borg could throw at them while creating indoctrinated servants to help them wittle down the Borg.

Not to mention Reaper kinetic weapons (even the red laser of doom is just fast superheated metal) would catch the Borg offguard and unawares.

[WarGriffin]

Byronic-Knight wrote...

They would team up.

"You will be assimilated." "Resistance is futile."

(Catalyst) "We helped them ascend." "Your extinction is inevitable." (Sovereign)

Their ideology and goals are identical. They only differ in form.

The Cybermen tried that with the Daleks... didn't work out that well

[NeonFlux117]

The Flood would own them all..........Hard.

But I'd say the Reapers would merk up the borg. Take a while tho. Borg are incredibly resilient and really have no fear. I'd say at least 10 year war. But Harby and Co. would defeat them.

[ofarrell]

Reapers have untold hacking abilities. Borg units can be hacked.

[Bill Casey]

Locutus: Why do you resist us? We only wish to raise quality of life for all species.

Worf: I like my species the way it is.

Locutus: A narrow vision. You will become one with the borg.

[Jukaga]

howieloader wrote...

I believe the Reapers would see the Borg as little more than the Geth to some degree... The Reapers would definitely win, the Borg are not unbeatable through conventional means (although I always wondered "why don't they just send like 50 cubes to Earth?")...

The answer is Q.

[in it for the lolz]

How about this:

The Reapers Vs The Tyranids.

Who would win?