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[YuenglingDragon]

I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find that this was an intentional change. The cooldown time for Charge seemed to be about 1 second longer for the Krogan compared to a human.

[Trakarg]

Any word on this yet?

[GodlessPaladin]

Wow, this really needs to be fixed. I want to play a Rage build Krogan Vanguard right now and I want to be doing the damage it says I am supposed to be doing.

YuenglingDragon wrote...

I wouldn't be entirely surprised
to find that this was an intentional change. The cooldown time for
Charge seemed to be about 1 second longer for the Krogan compared to a
human.

...You think it's INTENTIONAL that Rage says it gives you a significant bonus to melee damage but actually doesn't?

What.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 15 avril 2012 - 07:01 .

[Eriseley]

Yeah, this definitely isn't an issue of different base melee damage from other Krogan or anything like that. In fact one does not need to bring a Krogan Sentinel into the testing. You can simply melee before Rage and during Rage, the damage is exactly the same.

This is with 3 levels in Rage, going to test 4-6 soon to see if later melee stuff works. Also will see if damage reduction works.

Modifié par Eriseley, 15 avril 2012 - 08:25 .

[Xaijin]

I can confirm this myself.

[Eriseley]

Okay, I suspect the Damage Reduction is also not functioning. This was a bit more difficult to test, but I basically went around eating Cerb grenades from full shielding with Rage active and inactive. Always took the same damage. Turned on Barrier to see what functional damage reduction would look like, and saw a consistent reduction in damage. It appears that Fitness only grants base buffs at this time.

Modifié par Eriseley, 15 avril 2012 - 09:13 .

[GodlessPaladin]

Eriseley wrote...

Okay, I suspect the Damage Reduction is also not functioning. This was a bit more difficult to test, but I basically went around eating Cerb grenades from full shielding with Rage active and inactive. Always took the same damage. Turned on Barrier to see what functional damage reduction would look like, and saw a consistent reduction in damage. It appears that Fitness only grants base buffs at this time.

What the hell.  Krogans need RAGE dammit.  Where is our rage?  The power description says we have rage!

[AldarionnEB]

This is quite strange. I was looking forward to doing a Krogan melee build when I eventually unlock my Vanguard (God knows when THAT will be) but until they fix it I'm not going to bother. Wonder if they will ever get around to it.

[GodlessPaladin]

AldarionnEB wrote...

This is quite strange. I was looking forward to doing a Krogan melee build when I eventually unlock my Vanguard (God knows when THAT will be) but until they fix it I'm not going to bother. Wonder if they will ever get around to it.

Yeah, I'm feeling pretty cheated in that department.  All the hype over a krogan vanguard... and then they don't even get bloodrage.  What?

[Star fury]

That sucks. I like playing melee builds, especially krogans. And glitch that lowers damage of one genuine melee class on gold is really bad.
Don't understand retarded people who say: "Krogans have shotgunz". "U can't melee enemies because of shields". Watch video first! It's about vanguard, essentially melee class.

Modifié par Star fury, 15 avril 2012 - 11:16 .

[GhaleonUnlimited]

Was super pissed to find a melee Krogan is purposefully made to be trash on Gold, and was excited the KroVan was going to make it viable. lol thanks for getting my hopes up Bioware. Can't believe how many glitches and bugs the multiplayer has.

[draconian139]

Bioware's fix: rename rage to fitness and remove references to rage mode for the krogan vanguard.

[ajburges]

I did notice that melee for my Vanguard was disappointing bump and +1 to have Bioware change power to match description. If you fix my Battle-master, I will re-spec my Krogan sentinel into a tank instead of a brawler.

[AremihcO]

Bump just to see if Bioware will ever respond...

[tvih]

Melee indeed feels a bit weak because of Rage bonus not working. Such a shame.

[Viquey]

Now that I finally have him, I can say for certain that yeah, this is fairly disappointing.

[TheLostGenius]

EchoBeam wrote...

  Get a clue:  melee attacks bypass the shield gate, newbie.  I one-shot nemesis on GOLD with a Krogan Sentinel (without tech armor on, even) and do not do so as a Krogan Vanguard.  This is
because it does not get the damage bonus from rage.

Also, you seem to have missed the part in the OP where I explicitly stated that I tested this with two characters, each with the same rage spec, on Gold.  They did not do the same damage, or even REMOTELY the same damage.

EDIT: I just tried again on gold and melee apparently does seem to go through it. Like I'd know, why would you ever melee on gold? The fact you aren't instantly kicked from any group amazes me.

Newbie. Apparently you haven't seen a Krogan Vanguard that is lightly equipped in action.

[chriseggroll]

That explains why I couldn't one-hit nemesis on bronze, and why a head butt did the same damage with/without rage on, hmm.

[InfamousResult]

This is pretty disappointing. I mean, my Kroguard isn't specced for Melee, but when I manage to get those 3 melees in during Gold, I'd sure be thankful for the damage reduction.

Fixplzbioware

[Tony208]

They'll get to it after they fix the Vanguard charge bug. You're in for a long wait.

[CryeTitan]

Very disapointed in this bug.. Tested it for myself and lo and behold rage dmg rst and melee didn't increase at all. 0 point to meleeing for this krogan

[Delta095]

About 1/1000000th of the people on this forum are helpful when it comes to anything, dude. You're better off PMing all this to a moderator and asking him to look into it.

[landylan]

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

 Ahhhhh!! Crummy Youtube video! TV screen recorded by a video camera! My eyes hurt now after 5 seconds of viewing. Owe! So what's the beef? The Krogan meant for cqc melee combat does less melee damage than ther other krogans when it coems to melee? Interesting. Oh and I also saw you call someone a newbie when in actuality melee does not pass shield gate. I have used a fully raged krogan sentinel to heavy melee gold difficulty cerberus sentinels and they had 1 shield bar left. 

ive been trying out a melee geth and melee does pass the shield gate

[landylan]

YuenglingDragon wrote...

I wouldn't be entirely surprised to find that this was an intentional change. The cooldown time for Charge seemed to be about 1 second longer for the Krogan compared to a human.

the recharge cannot go past 4.3 seconds i think without equipment. the human vanguard had less than 2.5 i think.  i was dissapointed bc if your human has maxed health and shield in fitness, hes regenerating almost the same number of shields if hes constantly charging unless your krogan doesnt have points in melee

[skiadopsendow]

This is why i've switched my melee kroguard to a tank kroguard build

Hope they'll fix it soon...