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[Jeffro0050]

I liked the cone increase :/ I found it hit dudes out of my peripheral vision.

[Sakanade]

Jeffro0050 wrote...

I was able to run around with blade armor and a revenant and simply wreck with this guy using the exploding blades on silver... No real strategy just testing out his toughness/ damage potential. Even specced as a mid/ close range brawler I was nigh unstoppable- so I can imagine speccing into recharge speed and using a heavy shotgun as was intended would be quite destructive

The thing is that Batarians are meant to use snipers or shotguns (because of the extra ammo capacity and the % weight bonus)

I use the "sniper" shotgun, the N7 Crusader and it works like a charm.

I literally eat enemies like a vaccuum cleaner

Close range brawler is more meant for the Krogans, Batarians aren't really supposed to do that, and you will go down fast in Gold matches.

Remember, batarians have same health / shields as Turians, not Krogans.

Modifié par Sakanade, 12 avril 2012 - 07:37 .

[Jeffro0050]

That was my point- even specced for non-optimal combat, I still found blades to be awesome. Using a shotgun and speccing for recharge would obviously be the gold-setup. Still though- great class

[Sakanade]

Jeffro0050 wrote...

That was my point- even specced for non-optimal combat, I still found blades to be awesome. Using a shotgun and speccing for recharge would obviously be the gold-setup. Still though- great class

It is, I'm getting used to playing as this class because it's very reliable.

[Sakanade]

bump for lightning boards.

[TwelvGaugeApostl]

My most fun class on bronze/sliver.
Ballistic blades? Yes, you want them. Exploding? Yes you want that too since the dot will be negated by either you or teammembers killing (for a solo-run, I can see it being viable). The stagger from the explosion is golden and will give you time to set up for the next shot if they survive the blast. Yes, that is right, the explosion has a blast radius with AOE effect. Just try standing next to it as it goes off.

Blade Armor? Yes, that too since you will be competing with your other bat-soldier friends to get that heavy melee in on the Brute and the canniballz/cerberus will try to melee you.

Spec out of inf-nades (don't need them) and have the heavy melee give you that 20 sec increase ot weapon damage. This is like a mini-adrush and on AOE-weapons (Falcon/Stryker) it works absolute wonders.

Equip Falcon (Cryo for absolute lulzfest) and enjoy that incredibly hoarse voice.

[hector000]

Batarians are scum

[Tangster]

hector000 wrote...

Batarians are scum

You Krogan are all racist.

[Sakanade]

TwelvGaugeApostl wrote...

My most fun class on bronze/sliver.
Ballistic blades? Yes, you want them. Exploding? Yes you want that too since the dot will be negated by either you or teammembers killing (for a solo-run, I can see it being viable). The stagger from the explosion is golden and will give you time to set up for the next shot if they survive the blast. Yes, that is right, the explosion has a blast radius with AOE effect. Just try standing next to it as it goes off.

Blade Armor? Yes, that too since you will be competing with your other bat-soldier friends to get that heavy melee in on the Brute and the canniballz/cerberus will try to melee you.

Spec out of inf-nades (don't need them) and have the heavy melee give you that 20 sec increase ot weapon damage. This is like a mini-adrush and on AOE-weapons (Falcon/Stryker) it works absolute wonders.

Equip Falcon (Cryo for absolute lulzfest) and enjoy that incredibly hoarse voice.

This specc will not work on gold, melee a "boss" on gold? in your dreams.

Batarians have the shields of a Turian, not a krogan, they are not made for heavy melee out in the open.

combined with the fact that their heavy melee takes twice as long as other heavy melee makes your "specc heavy melee" skill on Gold absolutely useless.

Modifié par Sakanade, 12 avril 2012 - 08:00 .

[iLuvSayuki]

good stuff, i might just promote and go with damage and bleed. Cuz first time i went with cone and explosion. I use the m-300 claymore with it and the blades pretty much gives me free headshots cuz of the stagger

[Sakanade]

iLuvSayuki wrote...

good stuff, i might just promote and go with damage and bleed. Cuz first time i went with cone and explosion. I use the m-300 claymore with it and the blades pretty much gives me free headshots cuz of the stagger

with the bleed specc you wont even need to fire a shotgun

[IPraetoriaNI]

Do the bleed work on Geth and on "armor only" enemies?

[Sakanade]

IPraetoriaNI wrote...

Do the bleed work on Geth and on "armor only" enemies?

I can confirm they do.

Works on Geth (including pyro's) and Atlasses.

Modifié par Sakanade, 12 avril 2012 - 08:13 .

[IPraetoriaNI]

Sakanade wrote...

IPraetoriaNI wrote...

Do the bleed work on Geth and on "armor only" enemies?

I can confirm they do.

Works on Geth (including pyro's) and Atlasses.

Now that's odd, but good I guess. (until they fix it). What about Ravagers, Brutes and Banshees?

[adec1223]

ive actually melee'd bosses to death on gold. you seem to count out every thing that doesnt help you solo. i personally love the exploding ones mainly because as they are exploding, im firing a second one into their face and end up getting way more damage out of it then the bleed would. i also have blade armor with the penalty reduction on 6 and can still fire it every 2.5 seconds. that means more burst damage, more melee damage and damage reduction. i also didnt put a thing into inferno grenades because i dont like relying on an ammo box to kill thing. ive used it on gold just fine.

[Aaperture]

Ryuji2 wrote...

@OP

I'm assuming you went with reduced weight and power damage mainly. What's the cooldown % for you?

[AgentWhite1416]

Sakanade wrote...

TwelvGaugeApostl wrote...

My most fun class on bronze/sliver.
Ballistic blades? Yes, you want them. Exploding? Yes you want that too since the dot will be negated by either you or teammembers killing (for a solo-run, I can see it being viable). The stagger from the explosion is golden and will give you time to set up for the next shot if they survive the blast. Yes, that is right, the explosion has a blast radius with AOE effect. Just try standing next to it as it goes off.

Blade Armor? Yes, that too since you will be competing with your other bat-soldier friends to get that heavy melee in on the Brute and the canniballz/cerberus will try to melee you.

Spec out of inf-nades (don't need them) and have the heavy melee give you that 20 sec increase ot weapon damage. This is like a mini-adrush and on AOE-weapons (Falcon/Stryker) it works absolute wonders.

Equip Falcon (Cryo for absolute lulzfest) and enjoy that incredibly hoarse voice.

This specc will not work on gold, melee a "boss" on gold? in your dreams.

Batarians have the shields of a Turian, not a krogan, they are not made for heavy melee out in the open.

combined with the fact that their heavy melee takes twice as long as other heavy melee makes your "specc heavy melee" skill on Gold absolutely useless.

In all fairness he said bronze/silver no need to put the man down.

[Zenning]

Sakanade wrote...

TwelvGaugeApostl wrote...

My most fun class on bronze/sliver.
Ballistic blades? Yes, you want them. Exploding? Yes you want that too since the dot will be negated by either you or teammembers killing (for a solo-run, I can see it being viable). The stagger from the explosion is golden and will give you time to set up for the next shot if they survive the blast. Yes, that is right, the explosion has a blast radius with AOE effect. Just try standing next to it as it goes off.

Blade Armor? Yes, that too since you will be competing with your other bat-soldier friends to get that heavy melee in on the Brute and the canniballz/cerberus will try to melee you.

Spec out of inf-nades (don't need them) and have the heavy melee give you that 20 sec increase ot weapon damage. This is like a mini-adrush and on AOE-weapons (Falcon/Stryker) it works absolute wonders.

Equip Falcon (Cryo for absolute lulzfest) and enjoy that incredibly hoarse voice.

This specc will not work on gold, melee a "boss" on gold? in your dreams.

Batarians have the shields of a Turian, not a krogan, they are not made for heavy melee out in the open.

combined with the fact that their heavy melee takes twice as long as other heavy melee makes your "specc heavy melee" skill on Gold absolutely useless.

Actually..  I use a very similar build on gold, and it works amazingly.  See, Batarians have the most powerful Melee move in the entire game, and can one hit Phantoms on gold if you spec it, and have a heavy melee in your belt already.  In fact, funny enough, it is possible using a melee specced Batarian, to Stun lock a Prime to death (Yes, I know. What the craP) by alternating between heavy melee and Blades+Explosions.  The trick is, you just have to hit an enemy with a Blade to stagger em before going in for the actual melee.  In fact, it works if you do it on multiple enemies even better.

Also, I personally believe that Blades should be more about controling the battlefield.  Having a dot in Gold is mostly completely pointless, since killing enemies as effectivly, and as fast as possible is what we really need to do, so if you go for the explosions instead, you're guarenteed to have more control of the battlefield, have two stuns on every enemy per shot, and it will prevent enemies from instakilling you (Well, really just Brutes and Phantom's.  Atlas's and Banshee's don't get stunned from it) if you melee them.  

The cool thing about new classes is, multiple builds will be played through, and played with, until an "optimal" build is found.  So until you've had a chance to see these builds in action, don't just write em off like thta.

[DJepic112]

I tested this on a gold run but died too much. I seemed to not be able to hit anything with the power if I was in cover in a crouching position. It worked decently if i was against a wall, but never while i was crouched down. Why?

Also, for the enemies to get close enough to me that I can use the spikes, they can kill me rather quickly (pyros for example). Should I not be using the Mattock?

[Archheretic666]

I specced my Brotarian for full melee + return melee dmg. He is a monster in bronze and silver, but doesn't really seem to cut it in gold. After all you can't really run around meleeing that much in Gold, and speccing full melee made him kinda fragile.
I ignored the grenade which perhaps was a bad choice?
The blades are good, but only in short range.

Modifié par Archheretic666, 12 avril 2012 - 09:48 .

[Shin Balgus]

I'll admit the blades are good for CC, basically a better stunning and wider spreading shockwave. At least this is a viable tactic and useful to the team in the right hands, but you definitely aren't killing as fast as other classes mostly because you have to be up pretty close to even have the blades work at all. Thing is any class with a falcon can pretty much do the same thing from any range though...

Also I just don't care much for DoTs, you'll just get kill stealed and not be appreciated because you didn't score high (by most players standards anyway). 

DoT's are like only good solo really.  If you have 4 people wailing on an atlas, your dots won't get to do **** and you'd contribute more with up front damage so overall just limited effectiveness.  Although I will say I would love to see either 2 or more batarian soldiers running this setup and just stacking blades everywhere, would be funny.

Modifié par Shin Balgus, 12 avril 2012 - 09:52 .

[Archheretic666]

How does the cone spread work? does it make things impossible to hit or is it a good combo with explosive blades?

[Stardusk]

Sakanade wrote...

Jeffro0050 wrote...

That was my point- even specced for non-optimal combat, I still found blades to be awesome. Using a shotgun and speccing for recharge would obviously be the gold-setup. Still though- great class

It is, I'm getting used to playing as this class because it's very reliable.

I agree that your build could work but I am doing very well with my melee Batarian Soldier. I was the last one standing last night and I literally shotted four pnantoms in a row; combination of Graal, Ballistic Blades and Heavy Melee. It's a very fun build and viable if used strategically, ignores Inferno Grenade.

[Stardusk]

Zenning wrote...

Sakanade wrote...

TwelvGaugeApostl wrote...

My most fun class on bronze/sliver.
Ballistic blades? Yes, you want them. Exploding? Yes you want that too since the dot will be negated by either you or teammembers killing (for a solo-run, I can see it being viable). The stagger from the explosion is golden and will give you time to set up for the next shot if they survive the blast. Yes, that is right, the explosion has a blast radius with AOE effect. Just try standing next to it as it goes off.

Blade Armor? Yes, that too since you will be competing with your other bat-soldier friends to get that heavy melee in on the Brute and the canniballz/cerberus will try to melee you.

Spec out of inf-nades (don't need them) and have the heavy melee give you that 20 sec increase ot weapon damage. This is like a mini-adrush and on AOE-weapons (Falcon/Stryker) it works absolute wonders.

Equip Falcon (Cryo for absolute lulzfest) and enjoy that incredibly hoarse voice.

This specc will not work on gold, melee a "boss" on gold? in your dreams.

Batarians have the shields of a Turian, not a krogan, they are not made for heavy melee out in the open.

combined with the fact that their heavy melee takes twice as long as other heavy melee makes your "specc heavy melee" skill on Gold absolutely useless.

Actually..  I use a very similar build on gold, and it works amazingly.  See, Batarians have the most powerful Melee move in the entire game, and can one hit Phantoms on gold if you spec it, and have a heavy melee in your belt already.  In fact, funny enough, it is possible using a melee specced Batarian, to Stun lock a Prime to death (Yes, I know. What the craP) by alternating between heavy melee and Blades+Explosions.  The trick is, you just have to hit an enemy with a Blade to stagger em before going in for the actual melee.  In fact, it works if you do it on multiple enemies even better.

Also, I personally believe that Blades should be more about controling the battlefield.  Having a dot in Gold is mostly completely pointless, since killing enemies as effectivly, and as fast as possible is what we really need to do, so if you go for the explosions instead, you're guarenteed to have more control of the battlefield, have two stuns on every enemy per shot, and it will prevent enemies from instakilling you (Well, really just Brutes and Phantom's.  Atlas's and Banshee's don't get stunned from it) if you melee them.  

The cool thing about new classes is, multiple builds will be played through, and played with, until an "optimal" build is found.  So until you've had a chance to see these builds in action, don't just write em off like thta.

I agree, Batarian melee gold is great! and super fun!

[StrawHatMoose]

Oh god imagine batarian with the net and blades and grenades. That's would just be ****ig amazing, with like the net at level 2.