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[HippyGiJoe]

greghorvath wrote...

Immediately after the latest patch I noticed a disturbance in the force concerning damage dealt. I don't know if it is the damage gate malfunctioning, but I often have a situation where the enemies seem to not be taking damage:
I shoot a banshee (barrier already gone) with the widow. Armor bars stay the same. I shoot again: one bar. Next shot, nothing happens. I am a fairly good shot, so I assume its not that I miss. I guess it must be something with the damage gate, 'cause armorless/barrierless targets take damage just fine. It's enemies with any protection (even when that is gone) that produce this.

Banshees regenerate barrier really quickly, if you wait too long on gold, the little barrier she has regenerated would be enough to render a widow shot useless, it also depends on host, if your lagging banshees can be tricky since they teleport.

[SeijiTataki]

In a totally off-tangent kind of thing. This thread just made me instantly think of this song right here. >_>

[rgtm]

some non-instant skills also don't apply to enemies even if they hit right into enemy.
And if not... For example, when i launch incinerate to hit from the air, it can suddenly fly sideways, while the enemy didn't moved.
instant skills don't have that glitch.. i think devs just thought instant "glitches" would be too notificable.
So, i have a solution. Don't promote your classes and try to buy packs more rarely

Am i the only one who think they announce only "positive" balance changes?

Modifié par rgtm, 12 avril 2012 - 12:43 .

[greghorvath]

HippyGiJoe wrote...

Banshees regenerate barrier really quickly, if you wait too long on gold, the little barrier she has regenerated would be enough to render a widow shot useless, it also depends on host, if your lagging banshees can be tricky since they teleport.

well, I don't usually wait too long before shooting the same enemy for the second time...
I also suspected a lag issue, but I noticed it first when I was hosting. Is it possible to lag compared to yourself?

Modifié par greghorvath, 12 avril 2012 - 12:46 .

[Dark Dajin]

Another thing that reinforces my belief in N7 totals affecting the difficulty is this:

With a 1500 + 900 + 400 + 300 we beat Unknown/Unknown/Gold easily, with 2/3 phantom spawns (they respawn, but only 2/3 max on map).

Then someone had to leave and we got a replacement from our list so it became:

1600 + 1500 + 900 + 300. Now suddenly we started getting 4/5 phantom spawns and had to start using missiles to get out of being surrounded by them...

Modifié par Dark Dajin, 12 avril 2012 - 12:43 .

[Yajuu Omoi]

SeijiTataki wrote...

In a totally off-tangent kind of thing. This thread just made me instantly think of this song right here. >_>

umm...good song...but uh...wow...at least you're not bein a pervy like someone earlier...lol

[Twisted Mind]

I can confirm that difficulty has been raised. Geth have been buffed for sure. Probably because of farming. I can't talk actual numbers, but it looks like there are more primes and hunters. And hunters are also much faster. They are sometimes just running right for you with cloak on. Not always though. I don't remember that groups of 3 hunters at 2 different spawn points before patch. Farming used to take arround 20 mins and it is now arround 27. And it is not about the team. I am playing with friends mostly. The only difference is better weapons.
Cerberus seems different too. More phantoms, but less atlases and guardians. Had a cerberus run last night and we had barely any guardians. No double atlas either (meening, no 2 of them together one behind the other), but phantoms were runing all arround.
Didn't notice anything big with reapers.

All enemies are more agressive. Reaction time is much faster. Aside rockets coming through walls, they are shooting as soon as i am in their field of vision.
Oh, and decoy has been nerfed. Not sure if it has less shields or what, but it gets destroyed almost every time now, and it used to just last whole duration.

Modifié par Twisted Mind, 12 avril 2012 - 12:54 .

[humes spork]

Twisted Mind wrote...

All enemies are more agressive. Reaction time is much faster. Aside rockets coming through walls, they are shooting as soon as i am in their field of vision.

If this is indeed a difficulty buff (no confirmation, so just covering my bases by disclosing potential for error) it's a much welcome one. I was in a hydra/random lobby last night on silver that felt like we were playing gold plus. It was actually great fun since we had to chat, communicate and coordinate.

[Acidrain92]

I dont know. If bioware hasnt said anything about it then its probably just a case of "I usually play better" syndrome =P

[Yajuu Omoi]

humes spork wrote...

Twisted Mind wrote...

All enemies are more agressive. Reaction time is much faster. Aside rockets coming through walls, they are shooting as soon as i am in their field of vision.

If this is indeed a difficulty buff (no confirmation, so just covering my bases by disclosing potential for error) it's a much welcome one. I was in a hydra/random lobby last night on silver that felt like we were playing gold plus. It was actually great fun since we had to chat, communicate and coordinate.

True, when people work together and communicate well, the game is EPIC, but if i wanted to lvl up my lower level classes on gold...i wouldn't put it on silver or bronze.

Modifié par Yajuu Omoi, 12 avril 2012 - 01:22 .

[lil_lene]

I knida noticed it also. Not on Gold, that is always a challenge but sometimes I play silver to relax a bit and I noticed it was more difficult than it was before I updated..

[D4rk50ul808]

Wish they would just make a Platinum difficulty for us so they don't punish the players who prefer bronze/silver. So far none of their buffs have made Gold a real test with a decent team. Scale down the Damage/health and throw more enemies at us... playing a game you get one shotted in takes away the chaotic feel of battle.

Nerfing a Decoy/Sabotage/etc because players found a sure fire strategy using it is dumb. Its not a competitive game so who cares if they want to sit on White all day shooting at Geth. Don't ruin the ability for those of us who play the game normally. If you really want to punish that just have a random hunter spawn in the back every once in awhile.

[Twisted Mind]

humes spork wrote...

Twisted Mind wrote...

All enemies are more agressive. Reaction time is much faster. Aside rockets coming through walls, they are shooting as soon as i am in their field of vision.

If this is indeed a difficulty buff (no confirmation, so just covering my bases by disclosing potential for error) it's a much welcome one. I was in a hydra/random lobby last night on silver that felt like we were playing gold plus. It was actually great fun since we had to chat, communicate and coordinate.

I agry, but just partially
One one hand, players are becoming better and need higher difficulty to make it more fun, but on the other, players are getting same reward for more work. What BW should have done is to create platinum difficulty (and later diamond) and give us better rewards.
This is the samse as if your boss came and said that you have to start working 10 hours a day instead of previous 8, but you will be paid same as before.
So, yeah, i agree that we need harder challenge, but it should not be mandatory for everyone. And i certainly don't aprove od bioware doing this without informing us and also lying to us that they didn't patch multiplayer

[fixit6]

Somethings different...certainly seems that way. All enemies races hit noticably harder on silver, especially Geth and that's for sure.

Also having major issues with getting abilities to hit enemies: tends to go through them or it does look like it lands but does nothing. Add in fact enemies are dodging more ie. had a simple trooper dodge three warps in a row. Hmm...

It's getting aggravating to cast 4+ times just to get projectile abilities connect with a mob. Warp, incins, throw, carnage, etc etc.

Can't be lag b/c it happens every game. I can play infiltrator np and rack up head shots yet getting one flippin projectile ability to land on a trash mob is becoming mission impossible. Insto abilities seem uneffected, though.... /stumped

Somethings up, def undocumented changes.

Modifié par fixit6, 12 avril 2012 - 01:45 .

[humes spork]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

True, when people work together and communicate well, the game is EPIC, but if i wanted to lvl up my lower level classes on gold...i wouldn't put it on silver or bronze.

Nah, I say ramp bronze up a bit, too. Bronze just doesn't develop the skillset players need to do well on higher difficulties as it is/was. Hell, if anything it promotes bad playing habits. Bronze doesn't need to be more difficult per se (that is to say, enemies don't need to be higher-ranked, smarter, or more numerous), but it does need to punish poor play more to get people in the right mindset for silver/gold and to promote teamwork.

I think the way it's playing right now is a really happy medium. Smart play and teamwork are at a premium, poor play is punished swiftly and terribly, and for good players and cohesive teams it's not really much more effort than it was before. Make it any harder and then I'll start raising an eyebrow, but right now it's very nice and I'm loving the hell out of it.

Modifié par humes spork, 12 avril 2012 - 01:33 .

[Yajuu Omoi]

Personally, i'd love a platinum challenge. but i want the bronze back where it was where you can take a group of lvl 1 chars and work your ass off to BARELY make it to wave 10...with the way it is lvl 10s are having a hard time living through round 6...

[Archheretic666]

I soloed bronze yesterday with my lvl 16 batarian soldier, was the easiest solo I've done so I doubt it has been buffed.
Didn't gel once.

Modifié par Archheretic666, 12 avril 2012 - 01:47 .

[lastofthefive0s]

The Geth on Bronze are a lot more aggressive than they were just last week. A buddy and I used to make it to extraction 7 out of 10 matches on bronze, just playing for fun..and now we get wiped out between waves 3 and 7 and yesterday I think we only made it to extraction once or twice the whole day. Something is definately up with the AI and glad we weren't the only ones to notice it.

Modifié par lastofthefive0s, 12 avril 2012 - 02:12 .

[digby69]

Awesome Tree wrote...

I haven't noticed, but that's good! If I wanted something really easy, I'd just play the single player.

hahaha

[Yajuu Omoi]

Archheretic666 wrote...

I soloed bronze yesterday with my lvl 16 batarian soldier, was the easiest solo I've done so I doubt it has been buffed.
Didn't gel once.

just cuz i'm curious to see if the theory mentioned earlier is correct...wats ur n7 lvl?

[LunaRobin]

I noticed this too.

I'm a strictly bronze player and can almost always extract fine, but yesterday I experienced three fails on wave 3 and two fails on wave 6 or 7.

I'm sure it spikes somehow.

[Baerdface]

Yea, noticed that on Geth Rocket Troopers taking out my Krogan Sentinel's shields extremely quickly.

[Kingofthebonggo]

Yajuu Omoi wrote...

 http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615759-mass-effect-3/62469168

Seriously, the MP has been getting more and more difficult.
Its really discouraging when i'm on Bronze, with a lvl 20 Krogan Sentinal, tech armor is spec to protect from dmg, so is rage...and i'm getting downed by ASSAULT TROOPERS ON WAVE 6!!!!

WTF BioWare? why are you spiking the difficulties???

>.> I just soloed Bronze last night with my Krogan Vanguard lvl 20 and Batarian Sentinel lvl 15...both got evac :innocent:

[Dillon79]

nope ur wrong

[prymet1me]

Bronze is the same to me, silver....lol, well if you can find a lobby to actually start a game silver is harder. I dont do gold because I dont feel like it.