LobselVith8 wrote...
So you're conflating people who have the right to pursue different lines of work, raise their own children, pursue romantic relationships with whomever they want to, travel to other regions, and who have the freedom to try to achieve different goals with Circle mages who lack those same rights?
Circle mages
can have all those rights bar having children.
True, some Circles don't allow
some of those things, but others do. What the Circles need to do is have a universal set of rules for all cirlces to follow, preferably those of Fereldan's.
This would allow all those freedoms, except children.
So much is denied to them,
So much is denied to everyone. Foruntately for mages significantly less is denied to them then what is denied to others.
And you think having food and living in a prison makes up for that? I don't understand that argument.
It's not only food and shelter, its
quality food and shelter, plus education, the ability to pursue the academic, the ability to wield immense power, the ability to find work, companionship, etc etc.
The common folk have little to no chance of having all this.
Really it's hardly a prison. As I've said before it's more or less a boarding school.
In real life, people have risked their lives to leave brutal dictatorships, even when they had nothing, and risked poverty.
To compare the general cirlce system to the living conditions of some of RL's most brutal dictatorships is laughable.
In these situations it's rarely the lack of excess liberty that drives these people away but rather poor living conditions, famine, war etc.
Given that mages have fled the Circle, and even fought in rebellions, I don't see how you can try to paint the Chantry controlled Circle as though it was some idyllic paradise, especially when there are characters who condemn the institution as slavery.
When I was younger I knew kids who would run away from school and claimed it was a prison.
Circles can be corrupt yes, but people can also be entitled whiny ****es.
LobselVith8 wrote...
Who is going to punish them?
Whoever would normally punish a murderer.
LobselVith8 wrote...
We know next to nothing about the hundreds of men, women, and children in the Circle of Kirkwall. We can't praise or condemn them when we are in a place of ignorance about them. Unless you propose that the many apostate antagonists, along the few Circle mages we actually met, should condemn the majority of mages we never actually meet?
The templars were cracking down hard because many of the mages were using blood magic.
Yes, some templars went about it the wrong way but something
had to be done.
LobselVith8 wrote...
They live under a monarchy, but the people have freedoms that virtually no Circle mage will ever know.
Likle what?
The freedom to starve? The freedom to sleep cold, alone and homeless? The freedom to be poor? The freedom to be mauled by the many monsters that plague the land? The freedom to be killed by bandits? The freedom to have no access to decent medical treatment?
Do I really need to go on? Yes, the life of a mage isn't the perfect paradise you seem to want it to be but but it's infinitely better then the hardships of the average commoner.
If my choices were Fereldan circle or life of the commoner, I'd pick Circle every time.
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