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[frozngecko]

Do you know if Reave has an denotative effect? I can never tell.

I did get to try the offensive build...and I love it.

[GodlessPaladin]

frozngecko wrote...

Do you know if Reave has an denotative effect? I can never tell.

I did get to try the offensive build...and I love it.

It both sets up and detonates combos.  In an area.  You can also chain several biotic combos off of only one bubble in a short period of time if you set things up right, because you get a new biotic exlosion every time an enemy enters the bubble (also note that the bubble itself is a detonator when first placed).

Oh yeah, and the bubble can hit things through walls, which you'll see me doing several times in the videos.

[frozngecko]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

frozngecko wrote...

Do you know if Reave has an denotative effect? I can never tell.

I did get to try the offensive build...and I love it.

It both sets up and detonates combos.  In an area.  You can also chain several biotic combos off of only one bubble in a short period of time if you set things up right, because you get a new biotic exlosion every time an enemy enters the bubble (also note that the bubble itself is a detonator when first placed).

Oh yeah, and the bubble can hit things through walls, which you'll see me doing several times in the videos.

Cool....I guess the next most obvious question is...if you reave Reave....can you cause an explosion?

[GodlessPaladin]

frozngecko wrote...

GodlessPaladin wrote...

frozngecko wrote...

Do you know if Reave has an denotative effect? I can never tell.

I did get to try the offensive build...and I love it.

It both sets up and detonates combos.  In an area.  You can also chain several biotic combos off of only one bubble in a short period of time if you set things up right, because you get a new biotic exlosion every time an enemy enters the bubble (also note that the bubble itself is a detonator when first placed).

Oh yeah, and the bubble can hit things through walls, which you'll see me doing several times in the videos.

Cool....I guess the next most obvious question is...if you reave Reave....can you cause an explosion?

No.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 13 avril 2012 - 06:27 .

[KalilKareem]

Was playing offensive justicar all night yesterday. My observations;

1) Warp effect seems buggy or has internal CD of some kind. I have a 50/50 chance of getting warps at all. Obviously this nullifies the banshee tanking option... Are you not having this problem GodlessPaladin? I find it very noticable and sometimes downright fatal. Also; the warp from bubble never gives any "biotic glow", so I will constantly have to guess if it actually warped anything or not.
2) On small maps with well defined choke points the justicar is completely dominant. On Condor, not so much
3) On large maps I am just a pair of legs for my GPS. Not that this is a bad thing to be really, but other classes does this better.
4) Shielded enemies are a pain to deal with, and I really miss my statsis in particular when facing cerberus.

All in all it is a powerful but situational character. I would really like to team up with a old-school asari adept for some reave-throw madness.

I like the vids (content, not quality). You are clearly a very good player, and I learned a fair bit by enduring the handy cam photage.

[GodlessPaladin]

KalilKareem wrote...

Was playing offensive justicar all night yesterday. My observations;

1) Warp effect seems buggy or has internal CD of some kind. I have a 50/50 chance of getting warps at all. Obviously this nullifies the banshee tanking option... Are you not having this problem GodlessPaladin? I find it very noticable and sometimes downright fatal. Also; the warp from bubble never gives any "biotic glow", so I will constantly have to guess if it actually warped anything or not.

  I have experienced no such problem.

4) Shielded enemies are a pain to deal with, and I really miss my statsis in particular when facing cerberus.

  Different classes are better in differen situations.  *Shrug.*  The Justicar is at its best against reapers in confined spaces.

I like the vids (content, not quality). You are clearly a very good player, and I learned a fair bit by enduring the handy cam photage.

Thanks!

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 13 avril 2012 - 08:10 .

[ati3141]

Yubz wrote...

ati3141 wrote...

first the salarian infiltrator was the most overpowered class, now it is the justicar. The bubble gives you waaay to many points then what you deserve.I say this despite the fact I usually play as a SI and when I unlock them I will probably enjoy the krogan vanguard and justicar too.

The bubble gives you ZERO points unless it has Warp...

"
 unless it has Warp... " khm yes, tell me more about getting zero points reave, pull and the bubble combined is what gives you the upper hand. Also it is pretty difficult to aim while the constant biotic explosions shock 
everything. Its like a drell adept with the cluster grenades as a rechargable ability.

Modifié par ati3141, 13 avril 2012 - 07:50 .

[GodlessPaladin]

It's like the tank / support nova version of the Drell Adept, and the Drell Adept was already awesome.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 15 avril 2012 - 12:12 .

[zhk3r]

Oh . GP, I really wish you played on the PC. We could have had so much fun together :3

[Lexa_D]

Thanks for the guide, just unlocked AJ today and offensive was tons of fun. Noticed that could not place it with enemies around - is this a requirement?

[GodlessPaladin]

Lexa_D wrote...

Thanks for the guide, just unlocked AJ today and offensive was tons of fun. Noticed that could not place it with enemies around - is this a requirement?

I think it's a bug.  I seem to be able to solve it 95% of the time by just taking advantage of the animation delay and running into the enemies while doing that.  Also, the bug only seems to occur with things like Atlasses.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 15 avril 2012 - 06:46 .

[Shepard Wins]

Man dat SONG is pure, 100% AWESOME!!! xD Haven't heard it before XD You made my day!

[Lexa_D]

GodlessPaladin wrote...

Lexa_D wrote...

Thanks for the guide, just unlocked AJ today and offensive was tons of fun. Noticed that could not place it with enemies around - is this a requirement?

I think it's a bug.  I seem to be able to solve it 95% of the time by just taking advantage of the animation delay and running into the enemies while doing that.  Also, the bug only seems to occur with things like Atlasses.

True, repeatedly failed with single Atlas on Hydra, but could not dismissed it was on the bugged bridge. Happened couple times against reapers on Glacier though.

[Fake-XM]

I was very happy when I unlocked my Justicar today because I've been wanting to try this. Well, turns out I'm doing something wrong cause it doesn't work at all for me.

The DoT from Reave+Warp+25%Bonus sounds really really nice. There's just this tiny (huge) problem that nothing stays in the bubble for longer than 1 second, except slow big units.
I haven't played against Reapers with her yet, I guess Banshees and Ravagers, maybe Brutes, will die very quickly. But the small stuff?
Most matches were against Cerberus (Silver) and I scored quite poorly in all of them. There just has to be something I'm missing because I'm not a bad player.

I think the biggest problem is that all the "mobile" enemies get pushed out of the bubble when you place it. So what use is 25% damage bonus that only works against slow guys, right?
What am I missing? Help please =(
Or is it really only useful against Reapers?

I'll take a reliable 20% damage bonus (proxy mine) over a risky, unreliable one like this every time. And an Asari Adept's biotic explosions are twice as powerful (+50% from Warp, +50% Throw). Actually, if I remember correctly, Cryo Blast also gives +25%, I'll look that up though.

So any more tips?
But if I can't get it to work for me I'll just reskill for defense and put some points in Pull.

[Lexa_D]

Tested some more - you can move in and then initiate the bubble fast, and this will stagger enemies into outside, if possible - not if they are against a wall, for example.

Also, in this vid () at 00:32 you can see AJ custing bubble nect to Banshee. So the issue is resolved.

Modifié par Lexa_D, 16 avril 2012 - 05:52 .

[Fake-XM]

Reskilled for pure defense, not a fan of that one either. Meh, I guess I'll stick to the normal Asari Adept if I feel like using biotics.
It's bugging me though, cause it's clearly something I'm missing.

[GodlessPaladin]

zhk3r wrote...

Oh . GP, I really wish you played on the PC. We could have had so much fun together :3

Yeah, I kinda wish I did too.  I am getting really tired of randoms x_x

Fake-XM wrote...

The DoT from Reave+Warp+25%Bonus sounds really really nice. There's just this tiny (huge) problem that nothing stays in the bubble for longer than 1 second, except slow big units.

  If you're doing it right, things will die within about a second of entering that bubble (and if they didn't, they would be staggerring).

Most matches were against Cerberus (Silver) and I scored quite poorly in all of them. There just has to be something I'm missing because I'm not a bad player.

  It's kind of hard for me to specifically identify what you're doing wrong since I can't see you play.  Try watching the vid  I made though, and see what I'm doing different from you. 

Here are a few things to remember...
-Reave stacks with Reave.
-Area Reave with a huge duration is pretty sweet.
-Used properly, you get TWO biotic explosions off of THREE power uses with the biotic bubble, and potentially three off of four, et cetera.   The bubble itself is a biotic explosion trigger, and the warp effect is a biotic explosion setup which will be done multiple times (once for each enemy entering the bubble).
-Good weapons are nice, espeically since you're dealing 25% extra damage AND weakening armor by 25%.
-Specced offensively, your bubble still has 20% damage reduction.
-Asari dodges are sweet.

I think the biggest problem is that all the "mobile" enemies get pushed out of the bubble when you place it. So what use is 25% damage bonus that only works against slow guys, right?

  You don't really NEED a huge damage bonus for the mobile enemies.  They will die simply from the biotic explosion (or just reave and weapon fire on its own).  Also, if you're dropping it at choke points, you're getting free biotic explosions one after the other (since each new enemy that enters the bubble gives you a new biotic explosion, which helps you use smaller enemies like "fuel on the fire" for killing banshees very quickly).

The bubble is for clearing large groups or heavy enemies quickly.  I don't bother to use it often against individual mooks.

Also, keep in mind that the bubble's damage bonus is actually 25% from all sources PLUS weakening armor by 25%.

Or is it really only useful against Reapers?

I've had no problems killing Cerberus Gold with it.   Like its cousin the Drell Adept, however, it's better against Reapers.  However, unlike the Drell Adept it is a tank and thus doesn't mind the different weapons of non-reaper factions.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 20 avril 2012 - 01:26 .

[BaconBitz.KB]

What brand of Potato did you record that with dude? You should get your money back.

[GodlessPaladin]

BaconBitz.KB wrote...

What brand of Potato did you record that with dude? You should get your money back.

Yeah, and use it to get what instead, smart guy?  I'm not going to shell out the price of another console for a capture card.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 22 avril 2012 - 10:20 .

[Peer of the Empire]

Love the Justicar

2nd favorite class after Battlemaster

[HiGamerCAT]

GodlessPaladin I really enjoyed your tips and strategy regarding AJ playstyle, nice job there. I tried it and while I'm not nearly as good as you I did good (top score or 2nd top) - and I usually dont play biotics but it was fun (used phalanx X with AP and EB though over GPS... since i would rather stand there and wait for my biotics to detonate (ooo, big pretty explosion!) and forget to fire GPS... yeah...
But here is a question for you:

the other day i saw 2 AJ playing and they would double-bubble hack terminals and other area in need of protection (i guess they were specced for defense since i didnot see biotic explosions).

Would double-bubbling area provide twice ammount of protection or not or you're not sure?

Also if they (for argument sake) had a warp-bubble and defense-bubble - which one would take priority? (since technically enemy walk thru both - means its warped and also gettinge extra debuffs from defense bubble? - this made my brain hurt maybe you have more insight into this asari business
thank you in advance

[xtorma]

Good quality for being captured with a potato...hehe that comment was funny.

[GodlessPaladin]

HiGamerCAT wrote...

the other day i saw 2 AJ playing and they would double-bubble hack terminals and other area in need of protection (i guess they were specced for defense since i didnot see biotic explosions).

Would double-bubbling area provide twice ammount of protection or not or you're not sure?

  I'm pretty sure that they don't stack, no.

Also if they (for argument sake) had a warp-bubble and defense-bubble - which one would take priority? (since technically enemy walk thru both - means its warped and also gettinge extra debuffs from defense bubble? - this made my brain hurt maybe you have more insight into this asari business
thank you in advance

 Pretty sure you'd get the effects from both at the same time.  You'd get the higher defense and the enemy would get the worst debuff.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 23 avril 2012 - 03:08 .

[D4rk50ul808]

Interesting but I'm surprised you didn't take Pull for a utility skill. I run 6/6/4/4/6 with the GPS or Graal and AOE Pull is amazing for picking off distant unshield enemies, as well as staggering shielded ones further while you reload cancel with it. I play extremely offensive, more so than the videos show but I also play with a team of friends most of the time. Depending on the team makeup I switch to Disciple + Phalanx for 200% CD to better support other Biotics/Vanguards.

Nice vids.

[GodlessPaladin]

D4rk50ul808 wrote...

Interesting but I'm surprised you didn't take Pull for a utility skill.

What utility?  Reave will stagger just as well as Pull (with other effects besides), and if something's unshielded I might as well just shoot it in the face if I'm going to bother to take the time to aim at it (nevermind that with a good team all such weak enemies will be collateral damage of explosions).  I'd rather have the extra points in Asari Justicar or Fitness.  I just never have a situation where I really feel that Pull is worth the time to cast it.  Husks die to a single Reave, and Cannibals don't take much more than that... and neither are particularly plentiful on Gold.

Modifié par GodlessPaladin, 23 avril 2012 - 03:41 .