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[hussey 92]

I was reading an article writen back in August about DA3.  I got excited when I read you will be able to eqiup different armour to companions, but then I read that it's still only companion specific and it won't change how the companions look.  
In what way is this an improvement from Origins, which let you equip pretty much any armour you wanted to on a companion.

It's an RPG, so shouldn't some of the game look the way we want it to?

http://www.eurogamer...gon-age-3-plans


note:  The article also said "BioWare also expressed an interest in not reusing environments as in Dragon Age 2".....So they were thinking about reusing environments again!?

[John Epler]

hussey 92 wrote...

Filament wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Considering Bioware thinks DA2 is the greatest thing that ever happened, I don't see them leaning toward my side

I hope you're not still reading dev quotes from a year ago to come to this conclusion. They've admitted DA2 has plenty of faults. I'm sure they'll say they're still proud of what they did with it anyway, and maybe they don't agree with you about all the faults you think it has, but they are well aware it could have been better.

They say they have no interest in making DA3 like they did Origins cause they already did that, yet their eager to carry the DA2 story over into the next sequal.  Things like that brought me to this conclusion. 

That would be because the DAO story was carried into DA2. And the DA2 story will carry into future projects.

I'd like to see this mystical quote that keeps being referenced where we say that DA2 is the greatest thing ever. It had flaws - we're proud of what we accomplished, but that's a far cry from 'IT'S PERFECT AND FLAWLESS AND A MASTERPIECE'.

[John Epler]

hussey 92 wrote...

John Epler wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Filament wrote...

hussey 92 wrote...

Considering Bioware thinks DA2 is the greatest thing that ever happened, I don't see them leaning toward my side

I hope you're not still reading dev quotes from a year ago to come to this conclusion. They've admitted DA2 has plenty of faults. I'm sure they'll say they're still proud of what they did with it anyway, and maybe they don't agree with you about all the faults you think it has, but they are well aware it could have been better.

They say they have no interest in making DA3 like they did Origins cause they already did that, yet their eager to carry the DA2 story over into the next sequal.  Things like that brought me to this conclusion. 

That would be because the DAO story was carried into DA2. And the DA2 story will carry into future projects.

I'd like to see this mystical quote that keeps being referenced where we say that DA2 is the greatest thing ever. It had flaws - we're proud of what we accomplished, but that's a far cry from 'IT'S PERFECT AND FLAWLESS AND A MASTERPIECE'.

The DAO story was just metioned in the backround, and I never quoted anyone

The DAO story progressed the world state (and, really, provided the impetus for Hawke's flight from Lothering). As did the DA2 story.

And when you suggest that we said something that we, in fact, never did - you're setting up a massive strawman. Strawmen don't really do much to help with a constructive and positive discussion environment. It's a disingenuous way of making your point stronger.

[John Epler]

Maria Caliban wrote...

John Epler wrote...

'IT'S PERFECT AND FLAWLESS AND A MASTERPIECE'.

There we go folks. John says it's perfect, flawless, and a masterpiece, and he speaks for BioWare we he does so.

Clever girl.

[John Epler]

Cryocore wrote...

John Epler wrote...
It had flaws - we're proud of what we accomplished, but that's a far cry from 'IT'S PERFECT AND FLAWLESS AND A MASTERPIECE'.

and what did you accomplish? You made a demonstrably inferior game (Sales, critical receptions, fan reception).
You alienated a vast number of long time fans, and STILL fail to own up to the fact that its a worse game made for non core fans.
I fully expect biowEAr to slip in to the mire of the various formerly brilliant developers that were homogonised and bean counted in to failure and eventual closure.
BioWare was the greatest developer in the RPG space for a long time imo. This new entity is just another develop by numbers studio being run in to the ground by a controlling interest that has no interest in anything more than mass appeal and sale figures.

DAII is a comparitively awful game compared to EVERY RPG previously made by BioWare.

So what exactly did you accomplish with DA2?

imo everybody involved in making DA2 should apologise to the lon time fans as you obviously have no interest in making rich and deep RPGs anymore. Pandering to non RPG gamers and sacrificing core RPG mechanics is no accomplishment. 

Rather than blindly defending it maybe, just maybe somebody should just admit the faults and stop deflecting. If you really are interested in regaining lost trust... try some actual honesty. 

No, we're not going to apologize to you. The most you'll get is 'we're sorry you didn't enjoy the game', and as soon as I say that someone's going to take it and say 'LOOK, BIOWARE BLAMES US FOR NOT LIKING IT! HOW OUT OF TOUCH ARE THEY!'

Dragon Age 2 accomplished some things that we wanted it to accomplish, and failed to accomplish others. That's unfortunate, and obviously we'd rather it had accomplished everything we wanted, but it didn't. We'll look at it, look at what went well and what didn't, adjust and try to ensure that the next one falls more heavily into the former category than the latter. We'd love it if all of our fans enjoy our games - but that's not going to happen.

If you're expecting anything more than this, well, you're going to continue to be disappointed. We've acknowledged it has flaws, we've discussed (in as great of detail as we can at this stage) how we're planning to address them, and we've tried our best to remain in contact with the fans.