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#51
aternak

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The Carnifex presents enough stopping power to kill vitrually any non-elite enemy in the game, on Gold, with 1-2 easy headshots

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Funny thing is, Carnifex is not very good to begin with.

You get better DPS with the 3 P's (Phalanx/Predator/Paladin)

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I think pistols in general should just have a damage drop off after a certain distance. Then give a small accuracy nerf to the carnifex and a buff to the arc pistol and the pistols will be pretty well balanced and we can move onto other weapons that suck/are op.

Modifié par cuzIMgood, 13 avril 2012 - 01:28 .


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Currylaksa wrote...

Funny thing is, Carnifex is not very good to begin with.

You get better DPS with the 3 P's (Phalanx/Predator/Paladin)


You also get way less damage to armor with the first 2, and about 12 total shots with the paladin (16 with extended capacity!)

It really doesn't make sense that SMG's shoot at the roof after 1/2 a sec of firing one while (as someone else said) a "hand cannon" has practically no knockback at all.

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Currylaksa wrote...

Funny thing is, Carnifex is not very good to begin with.

You get better DPS with the 3 P's (Phalanx/Predator/Paladin)

DPS only matters on weaker enemies. For the bigger things, whatever has the higher hitting power will give you the best results. Paladin would be the best if it didn't weigh a ton and have capacity issues. It's also hard to max. The Carnifex can be brought to X very easily.

Modifié par Foxtrot813, 13 avril 2012 - 01:33 .


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The Carnifex is probably a little too good for its weight, but it's far from being the only good power spammer gun.

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Currylaksa wrote...

Funny thing is, Carnifex is not very good to begin with.

You get better DPS with the 3 P's (Phalanx/Predator/Paladin)


In principle, yes.  In practice?  Not on Gold, you don't.  The Predator and Phalanx struggle to cope with armor on Gold.  The Paladin just weighs too much until it is leveled up.

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cuzIMgood wrote...

I think pistols in general should just have a damage drop off after a certain distance. Then give a small accuracy nerf to the carnifex and a buff to the arc pistol and the pistols will be pretty well balanced and we can move onto other weapons that suck/are op.


If I were to nerf pistols, I would take a big chunk out of their accuracy rating.  I'm fine with their power at medium to short range, but they shouldn't amount to one-handed sniper rifles.  It's kind of ridiculous.

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aternak wrote...

The Carnifex presents enough stopping power to kill vitrually any non-elite enemy in the game, on Gold, with 1-2 easy headshots

What


Talking about after shields are down, in most cases.

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Rodney Chongo wrote...

Syrus101 wrote...

LegacyOfTheAsh wrote...

Nerfing another weapon because it is viable is not a way to fix anything especially since the game is not competitive. The fact that anything has been nerfed, especially Ultra-Rares, is ridiculous.

GGW KillerTiger wrote...

Foxtrot813 wrote...

Or, they could just buff the trash guns in this game and make them worth the cooldown penalty.

Could not agree more


Absolutely 100% agree.


+1 to that definitely

I dont see why you need to nerf the Fex. its a great weapon yes but... try using that in close quarters? no thanks! I'd stick to another pistol or an AR/SMG/Shotgun. 

it DOES have downfalls. the fex is a med to long range pistol. handy for those that dont want the weight of a sniper rifle but still want to be able to snipe fairly effectively. the fex IS NOT a sniper... but its a good replacement for one. 


and +1 on the "nerf the nerfherders. its a COOP game NOT competitive.... if anything weapons and enemies should be "buffed" for balance not making them worse...


But it is a competitive game. Otherwise there would be no scores and no "I hates kill-stealers" whiny twits



I could care less about the scoring system. when the game ends all I do is look at the XP and credits I get. then go straight back to the menu to tweak loadouts/buy packs. 


I play to have fun. not compare some arbatary "point" system

Modifié par Syrus101, 13 avril 2012 - 01:34 .


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I agree with buffing some of the other weapons...they seem to be crap against anything. In the past 10 or so matches Ive barley seen anything other than high powered snipers or pistols..

SMGs and AR are like a distant memory.


But no nerfing...we have actually had some of that.

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I'm going to be honest.

I think 200% recharge is overrated.

I'd rather use a GPS or the Falcon on my caster classes. Hell anything that guarantees stagger I'd rather use.

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Bhatair wrote...

They already did.


THis.

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Foxtrot813

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Elecbender wrote...

I'm going to be honest.

I think 200% recharge is overrated.

I'd rather use a GPS or the Falcon on my caster classes. Hell anything that guarantees stagger I'd rather use.

I would agree with this if either worked well off-host or benefitted from headshot damage.

Modifié par Foxtrot813, 13 avril 2012 - 01:35 .


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Bhatair wrote...

They already did.



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Nothing should be nerfed. Other things should just be buffed.

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jamesfrom818 wrote...

Nothing should be nerfed. Other things should just be buffed.


This is a very poor way of balancing things. Sometimes things need nerfs, even if it's something people like.

Though in this case, the Carnifex doesn't need nerfing, imo.

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Carniflex is perfect. >:/

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also remove krogan melee and give them diapers
strip all classes from biotic powers
grenades are for whimps
remove the tactical cloak
delete the carnifex
delete all weapons

give everyone a bow and arrow and on the first wave release 35 banshees and 15 brutes
remove the consumables and missles and lenghten the game round to 100 waves
( thats on bronze of course ) gold should be 250

Yeah ! hardcore..

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Nerf this, nerf that. Let's just nerf everything until we're all running around with squirt guns-looks at javelin-um, I mean bb guns.

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anytime anything is good or slightly powerful in MP, people call for it to be nerfed. It's silly, it's not even a competitive game.

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Oh look everbody! Another thread calling for unneeded nerfs...

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Modifié par wolfstanus, 13 avril 2012 - 01:42 .


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Cyonan wrote...

jamesfrom818 wrote...

Nothing should be nerfed. Other things should just be buffed.


This is a very poor way of balancing things. Sometimes things need nerfs, even if it's something people like.

Though in this case, the Carnifex doesn't need nerfing, imo.


At least in my experience, It's a very great way of balancing things. At least then everything is usuable.

Would you prefer every weapon be turned into the Hurricane or the Phalanx? I know I'd sure as hell prefer the latter.

ALL my favorite weapons from ME2 suck HARD, to the point where it's not even worth using them, not to mention countless of other guns. Buffing is what this game needs most, and it's painfully obvious.

Modifié par scottster117, 13 avril 2012 - 01:59 .


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Father Alvito wrote...

Currylaksa wrote...

Funny thing is, Carnifex is not very good to begin with.

You get better DPS with the 3 P's (Phalanx/Predator/Paladin)


In principle, yes.  In practice?  Not on Gold, you don't.  The Predator and Phalanx struggle to cope with armor on Gold.  The Paladin just weighs too much until it is leveled up.

Armor in Gold doesn't take much away from Phalanx X, when you add a Piercing V.

Carnifex is really overrated.

Modifié par Currylaksa, 13 avril 2012 - 01:52 .


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Can someone at BioWare make me a Mod already so I can nuke threads like these that do nothing but incite the community to anguishing levels of frustration.