majinbuu1307 wrote...
"This story arc is coming to an end with this game."
Remember this line from Casey Hudson.
When you finish Mass effect 3, however you may feel about it, it is the end, this can not be argued.
You can not use the upcoming DLC in your argument because it STILL is the end, just further clarified; details and scenes added to make you understand better what happened to everything you cared about. They did NOT know this backlash would happen, they made that clear, meaning the ending, is really the ending. Remember this fact.
Actually they make it clear that it is not over. In the I.T. it...IS...just further clarified that its the IT. The scenes after are shepard thinking he has won but instead the crucible maybe a weapon for the reapers to destroy all the relays as a last effort. Shepard being indoctrinated WILL see things differently like Saren in thinking he is doing control/synthesis/destroy.
majinbuu1307 wrote...
"It’s more like there are some really obvious things that are different and then lots and lots of smaller things,"
This is what he meant by 16 different endings. 3 main ones with obvious differences, colors aside, with lots of smaller differences, but important onces. Such as; If you don't have enough EMS, not enough good scientists working on the Crucible, most likely not fine tuned, and when it fires, it burns the earth to a crisp basically. We'll just consider that - Bad ending #4 Other things like forces getting wiped out, that whole last battle is part of the ending.
Now, on to the meat. The main agreed upon part of the theory, is that Shepard does not make it to the Citadel at all, but wakes up after the beam hits(or missed but the shockwave still knocks him out, clearly he cannot get hit head on.)
If this is true. There is one simple, simple problem, at the very START of the theory. That means, If you choose the Destroy ending(being in your head, breaking the Indoctrination) and have a high enough EMS, You see the Shep_Alive ending, theorists believing he is in the rubble in london. Lets just believe for a minute that this is true.
(Remember first quotations by Casey)
The Reapers, the problem since game one, are still around. He cannot shut them down, in his head. You cannot argue around this. The Reapers are still there. They will destroy everything. They cannot be defeated by conventional means.
Your forgetting that if it is the I.T. then we have YET to know what the crucible does(or who its for). We have YET to know what to find on the citadel...we could even find Vigil (from ME1) after the O.S.D. file was put on the citadel in ME1. There are too many unknowns.
majinbuu1307 wrote...
This means the game is unfinished, what happens after Shep wakes up? Does he try to go to the Citadel for real this time? Seems a bit redundant. Why show what happens after he breaks control?(the Crucible firing, relays disabled, etc etc) Seems weird for him to dream that too, if he already broke control eh? Re-read this part, more than once, and the previous paragraph, again and again, before you think of a counter argument.
Like I said If he is indoctrinated then he (and you the player) are ONLY going to see what the reapers want you to see. Remember that this is also about the player (the person or you) being "indoctrinated" (tricked).
majinbuu1307 wrote...
Now, with that said, dismissing indoctrination theory, the other theory, is that Shepard survived reentry, and lands in London rubble. I won't even argue this. It's too rediculous.
Finally, the most logical answer out of the three possibilities most have presented. Shepard is ACTUALLY on the Citadel, those events happened, and this is closure, however you may feel about the ending. Shepard chooses Destroy, blows up the tube/device, gets covered by an explosion(which we have seen people survive worse, game one, Shepard had a Reaper leg fall on him pretty much, game two, didn't incinerate during reentry)
The rest is off screen, we have no idea what happens, we have no idea if Shepard was just covered in the explosion but made it out and start running, he did have a sudden burst of confidence and energy and was no longer limping as he walked and shot the tube. It is very possible he came out of that small burst and ran to an exit, possibly one created by the Catalyst once again.
Still following? Hope so. Now, if he found an exit off that platform, we have some hope, but the ending scene shows some explosions around where shepard is supposed to be, but we do not, I repeat, we DO NOT see it the ring break to peices, or even break at all, suggesting much of it is very much intact on the inside. The arms then come apart, and it is still in orbit last we see.
This means he could very well be alive, and in CITADEL rubble, not LONDON rubble. I'll leave the silly argument about what the rubble and cords looks like to the nitpickers. Fact is it is too close a shot to see for certain. Even Jessica M. states her belief(while not GOD) is that Shep is on the Citadel. And she has seen content that none of us have, so she is alittle more in the loop than we are. (oh dear I brought her up, so now thats all you will talk about and ignore the rest of my thread, go ahead children.).
To point a few things out I will start with the fact that shepards in space with no helmet and seems to NOT question the catalyst...almost as if it was a dream(because things make sense in dreams).
2) You can clearly hear male/female shepard's voice in the back ground of the catalyst's OWN voice! You have to hear it with headphones...The right ear pice is male shep and the left ear pice is female shep and when you hear them together you cant make it out at all. Why is this?
3) If they were never going to do a "Explanation DLC" then they were never going to explain the reason the catalyst is the little boy! Or the many plot holes they they had time to see.
4) shepard is having dreams all throught the game and the last 10 minutes of a great game feels really really off (out of place) of the rest of the series...Why? There is a really really good chance that he IS dreaming since the last 10 min feels that way on purpose.
5) If you go back and look at the rubble on London it is gray brincks on the sides as your running for the beam...the citadel is NOT made with brincks. BTW Shepard is now taking a breath in a broken citadel with no power in the vaccume of space?
majinbuu1307 wrote...
To sum up, Destroy ending is by far the best ending, and the further Extended Cut will let us know other details, possibly how Shep can meet up with crew and LI, or if rebuilding of the Relays is possible.
Anddddd...thats a wrap. Have a blast.
You have been indoctrinated by BioWare!
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