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[JMCatrow]

And what's with all the people I see ducking in some corner and just sitting there? Not even dying most of the time, but sometimes they do. I know the people aren't just using the bathroom or something cause whenever they can I see them "grab" and kill an enemy... but otherwise do nothing.

[BaKaNoOB]

Aaperture wrote...

I look at what weapons they have on what class they chose at what level their class is.

Then I look at their weapon mods.
Then I look at their equipment, if any.
Then I look at their N7 rank.

If they have a Vindicator IV and a Graal II on a level 13 Drell Adept, their N7 rank is irrelevant, it's going to be a disaster.

Also, sometimes their username can alter judgements towards that player.

xX_Shadow_KiLLer666_Xx   is probably going to be a bad player compared to a nice, simple username, like Nindroid, Whingle or UnderageThinking ect.

I Agree from the first part but judging username is inapropriate 
How will You judge if you encounter my usernsme : BaKaNoOB 
I play mostly silver matches with Infiltrator (cause i play infiltrator since ME 1) since the releace n7 ~350 doesn't promote except for operations
Played few golds if tho of your teamates don't run rambo and die on the other side of the map its ok...
When i decide to go on Gold i only look on equipment and charakter level ^12

JMCatrow wrote...

And what's with all the people I see ducking in some corner and just sitting there? Not even dying most of the time, but sometimes they do. I know the people aren't just using the bathroom or something cause whenever they can I see them "grab" and kill an enemy... but otherwise do nothing.

 


If you are sniper on some maps there are spots that cover most of the map and do not require you to move except when for hacking or boosters objectives

PS. Bad English sorry

Modifié par BaKaNoOB, 13 avril 2012 - 10:55 .

[Twisted Mind]

There are players that never won a single gold match and have n7 over 500. When i play silver to level my charavters i see really bad players with high n7 levels. My guess is they are sticking to silver and constantly promoting.
I have recently set a rule to myself not to play with players with n7 rating under 120. I am not elitist, there is a simple logic behind that rule. If you are under 120 it means that you haven't leveled all your classes which means you haven't played them as much as you should have to understand them. I don't care how good you are with that one class you stick to and i don't care that you can solo bronze or silver. Gold challenge needs team play and if you don't understand how my class works than we can't play together. I am not that much of perfectionist to rage over ruined stasis by energy drain or canceled biotic combo and i don't care about time. But i can't forgive asari adept using warp on all enemies when they are already warped by turian sentinel. I can't stay calm when i see a krogan rushing for small hack objective if there is perfectly capable infiltrator in the team.

As far as i am concernd, if you are under 120, you don't know anything about my character and you can't complement my character the way you should.

[Miwenskee]

I personally try not to judge from N7 Rankings and I've been lucky enough not to be judged either. On the contrary, I was rank 36 when I tried my first gold and people didn't mind. Two guys had mikes, me and the forth didn't. At wave 8 on firebase red everyone died (did at least 5-6 revives that round, but still) and in the end it was me against 2 Atlases, 2 phantoms and a couple of centourions/nemesi (all on full health). I played a salarian infiltrator with nothing but a Mantis VI (no secondary weapon and all rockets were used earlier). Took me 20+ mins, but I eventually took them out and not only did the others not give up on me (which surprised me, at first I thought they had left), but the guys with the mikes encouraged me and gave me moral support (+ warning me if a phantom was too near in case I didn't see her) the whole time.

Right now I'm still a low rank (72 I think) and so far I haven't been kicked from any game I've joined and I only vote for kicking if the majority does it, never on my own initiative (in my experience in most cases we kick a guy for being idle and not clicking the Ready button, not because of ranking).

You people take the game too seriously. So what if you lose the game because of some guy. Instead of being "safe than sorry", give the guy a chance, prepare yourself for a loss (because after all it's just a game) and get double the satisfaction if you happen to win.

Modifié par Miwenskee, 13 avril 2012 - 11:17 .

[JMCatrow]

BaKaNoOB wrote...


If you are sniper on some maps there are spots that cover most of the map and do not require you to move except when for hacking or boosters objectives

PS. Bad English sorry

I don't think that's it. The person I played with this morning that was doing it was in the pick-up/drop-off area of Giant. And the second one I saw doing it was on the high ground in the Palaven map, but not on either side where you can snipe from... just dead center in the top part. They both just sat there in cover with enemies swarmed all over them all game long. The guy on the Palaven map never went down once despite multiple geth pyros blowing flame all over him constantly and geth Primes going at him too. That guy never moved, never did any grabs either that I saw, and never went down, let alone die. But the guy on Giant this morning did die twice and was grabbing people.

[IGoosI]

Teilean wrote...

I hear it all the time that N7 Rating Means nothing....I'm sorry but it means alot when I'm gaming with complete strangers.


A Higher N7 rating means that you have played more, I'm sorry if you are n7 120 and dont promote but compared to a person who is 400n7 I see the 400 as more experience seeing as I DONT KNOW YOU.

I'm sorry but you couldn't be any more wrong. N7 above 120 doesn't mean you have played longer, doesn't mean you have more experience and DEFINATLY does not mean you are any better. All it means is you have promoted more times. Nothing more nothing less.

Also once you reach 120 you have all the experience you require. If a person is crap at that point they could well be just as crap by the time they hit 500. As proven by plenty of people I have played with at 300, 400, 500 and beyond who have been useless.

Strangers or not the N7 rating does indeed mean absolutely nothing.

[Simocrates]

I promote my characters because I don't mind leveling them up again and I enjoy the war assets they provide. I am fairly certain each promotion is 75 assets not 10. That being said I will not enter a Silver game unless my character is above 15 and I will not enter a Gold game unless my character is 20.

Modifié par Zanza86, 13 avril 2012 - 11:20 .

[humes spork]

Teilean wrote...

You really are trying hard at this, the n7 ranking is unreliable yes I said it eariler but its our only way to gauge a person that join in a random pug...instead of wasting 10 mins finding out if the rank 80 person is actually good.

There are TONS and TONS of different examples and snowflakes that "I played with this rank 50 guy who was number 1" and "I played with this rank 3000 guy who was a complete noob"  but when all the **** is clear.......

HOW DO YOU GAUGE A PERSON WHEN YOU ARE IN A RANDOM PUG? 

Loadouts are a good one but I'm sure I can snipe just as good and probably better with a Mantis X then that guy with a Widow X. GPS X? Easy Mode Gun doesn't=skill or knowhow. 

Higher N7 Rating>Time Played>A Greater Understanding of the Game

Dont overthink this, when it comes to a random group of people, strangers you know nothing about N7 Rating has an impact.


I'm coming to belive that the only people who think the "n7 rating means nothing" are people who have a low N7 rating and have had there epeen's hurt because people think they are "newbies" because of the low rating so they have to defend this point as if it proves something.....

No, not trying terribly hard. I believe I've made my point.

Look, just a couple days ago I promoted my engineer class. I followed that up with two bronze games to get my character level to a reasonable level before stepping the difficulty to silver. In those bronze games I played salarian engineer and I carried a valiant.

I didn't make a thread about how low level characters ought to do a bronze game or two to pad their character level before moving up, nor did I make a thread about how the "200% CDR" rule isn't absolute. The reason I didn't was because I paid to play just like everyone else and have the prerogative to play how I see fit, mediated by the need to play to my own strengths and be a productive teammate. I'm also confident enough in my knowledge and skills as a player, and the decisions stemming from that knowledge base, to not seek community validation. There's no need; whether I'm successful on an individual level in a match, and whether my team succeeded as a partial result of that personal performance, speaks for itself.

Because really, this is what this thread boils down to, without beating around the bush. You're trying to justify your own choices as a player to the community. Frankly, the buck stops (or rather, should stop) at "I paid to play and I have a right to vet random teammates". We all play on the internet, and we all know there are bads of every class, level, N7 rank, and weapon distribution; you could find the most idiotproof setup possible in the game and the internet will not fail to produce a better idiot.

You're spending time you probably could spend actually playing the game defending the method you've chosen to vet players, in the face of numerous counterexamples both theoretical and experiential (typically a red flag on the soundness of a given assertion, but I digress), and for what end? You're obviously not interested in or intending to glean a greater understanding of how player knowledge and experience impacts given information in lobbies, especially granting every counterargument produced against your assertion that N7 rank matters while simultaneously refusing to admit that perhaps, N7 rank may not actually be a solid determinor of player skill, and appealing against the speak in the process.

[Renew81]

I dont think it means more experience my rating at the moment is around 550
I do like to level my characters and the n7 rating is addicting i like to level it..

sure i have played alot of games and i think iam doing oke , however i have NEVER
played a gold match before so in that my experience is zero , zip nadaa and i may suck
i dont know until ive tryed it.

[Gillityr The Original]

coinop25 wrote...

That's cool, I guess. Personally, I'd rather not play with people who are so insecure about their ability that they kick others out of fear of losing.

(Signed, guy with N7 left at 360 because I'm playing on Xbox and it struck me as funny.)

When I am hosting games, please feel free to join me.  I have an apreciation for common sense and decency.

[Teilean]

IGoosI wrote...

I'm sorry but you couldn't be any more wrong. N7 above 120 doesn't mean you have played longer, doesn't mean you have more experience and DEFINATLY does not mean you are any better. All it means is you have promoted more times. Nothing more nothing less.

Also once you reach 120 you have all the experience you require. If a person is crap at that point they could well be just as crap by the time they hit 500. As proven by plenty of people I have played with at 300, 400, 500 and beyond who have been useless.

Strangers or not the N7 rating does indeed mean absolutely nothing.

You are assuming that the guy who is rank 120 has been playing for a while just as well as everyone in this thread assumes that people with high rankings are leechers and noobs, again I will point out my talk of epeen in another page.


You see someone with 120 Rating what does that tell you? The guy hasn't promoted a character, thats fine I dont mind or care from that point I take a look at his loadout good? Ok lets roll, Bad? he must be new do I have time for one of these matches today?

Its simple higher rating>played more>more knowhow about the game, yes there are people who only play bronze but there are also alot of people like me who take a level 1 guy into a gold match get topscore and level back up to 20 in 5 matches and when playing with randoms having a N7 Rating of 900+ and Rare Weapon X I wont get kicked.

Modifié par Teilean, 13 avril 2012 - 03:08 .

[DAMPANDAX99]

Has anyone ever noticed their N7 level get stuck for a while...only to shoot up [slightly] later on?

[zKris with a K]

Rofl, I'm hanging out level 220 and not planning on going anywhere. Just because I don't feel like promoting 239874892398423 characters doesn't mean I'm bad. It actually makes me a smarter player than all those fools that are level 1000. Why start over? I'd rather just use my level 20 and wreck gold as many times as humanly possible. N7 means nothing except a cry for attention if you have a high rank. Just my opinion.

-Kris with a K

[samb]

You're right, N7 does mean something.  It means you have a lot of time on your hands that you can start from scratch all the time.  It means that you are either a student, single (ie no kids) or have a trust fund where you can afford to play the game for hours on end everyday.  As opposed to other people who can only play 1-2 hours a day (if that much) and have to get up for work the next day, have bills to pay, children to feed etc
Lord forbid, other people want to play at a high level and not spend time redoing things just for bragging rights.  If your got some kind of gameplay perk in MP for promoting your toons then N7 would mean something.  But it doesn't.  All it shows is how little responsibility and how much free time you have.
You choose to be elitist about N7 score to justify your lack of responsibilty.

Modifié par samb, 14 avril 2012 - 02:19 .

[samb]

Teilean wrote...

You are assuming that the guy who is rank 120 has been playing for a while

And you are assuming the opposite.

but there are also alot of people like me who take a level 1 guy into a gold match get topscore and level back up to 20 in 5 matches and when playing with randoms having a N7 Rating of 900+ and Rare Weapon X I wont get kicked.

I played games with my SI with a black widow II, came out on top and was kicked out after we cleared.  This is after I personally revived each one of them at least once and they kicked me anyway.  Your arguement that good gear high N7 score and whatever else holds little wieght.  People will kick you for whatever reason they think of. 

[1337Floctender]

It's the same thing as a Gamerscore, just in one game rather then all of them.

[keginkc]

I'm N7 300+ but that doesn't mean anything. I play well if I'm...

1) not falling asleep. which I often am
2) feel like playing well. which I often do not, hence playing on bronze
3) not getting lagged to death because of the host's connection

I'm sure there are people out there who, if they remembered my name at all, would think I'm terrible, and there might be one or two people out there who think I know which end of the gun I point at things. But either way, my N7 rank won't tell you much about me, and generally neither will my score after the match.

[Evrathiel]

I have met awful N7 100+ players as well as awful N7 500+ players.

I have met good N7 100+ players as well as good N7 500+ players.

It means nothing at all except if we're talking about N7 1. I've been in a game with someone with his N7 over 2000 and he was horrible.

Weapons, mods and even amps make for a better judgment of someone in a lobby than N7.

[HOUSE MDD]

Teilean wrote...

I hear it all the time that N7 Rating Means nothing....I'm sorry but it means alot when I'm gaming with complete strangers.


A Higher N7 rating means that you have played more, I'm sorry if you are n7 120 and dont promote but compared to a person who is 400n7 I see the 400 as more experience seeing as I DONT KNOW YOU.

Tonight for example was me and 2 friends, we would host and grab a 4th for some Gold matches.  A 80 N7 joins....I take a look at his weapon he is a lvl 18 HI with a Mantis X I'm like ok lets do this......sry to say he should of still been in silver.  I dont mind letting in that lower experienced guy for that phat credit when its me and some friends........but if I'm alone and all I got to go off of is your N7 Rating vs me wasting my time getting wiped on round 6 b/c you dont understand we need to get the devices and move as a team.....


---Now I understand some ppl are 120 or near so and dont promote which is why I check weapons if I see that BW4 or GPS X I give it a go.  Then again how do I even know if you bought it with credits or cash.

all it proves is how many chars you have got to 20 and promoted. My friend has been playing since release and his n7 is only  140 and it will never go above, as he keeps all his classes at 20. does that make him Sh*t ? hell no hes one of the best Infi's ive ever come accross.

[VVereVVulf]

N 32 carrying N 1k+ players through gold.

It's sad to see how incompetent players are. No matter how much time they've invested, they don't seem to learn at all.

Also I'm only playing gold in a group because soloing takes a long time and isn't half as fun.

Modifié par VVereVVulf, 14 avril 2012 - 02:44 .

[samb]

VVereVVulf wrote...

N 32 carrying N 1k+ players through gold.

It's sad to see how incompetent players are. No matter how much time they've invested, they don't seem to learn at all.

Well given how many character cards people get, it's very possible most people can breeze through the first 4-6 levels without starting from lvl 1.

[Ithas]

This is untrue.
I'm an N7 rank 98 and I've been in lobbies with N7 Rank 800 and I'm a better player than that. Simply put it's an e-peen meter to display how much you play the game.

[Edalborez]

I've seen people with N7 as low as 50ish do fantastic. I've seen people at N7 400+ blatantly ignore objectives and go for "sweet kills". I've seen 2 people with N7's at 1600 who, while not terrible, were not as good as rank would imply. I've seen people with the "best" guns and classes do terrible and people with the "worst" guns and classes do just fine.

Actual match skill > loadout > N7

I'm N7 450 for the time being, but I could probably be in the 600s if I promoted more. As is, N7 means nothing to me but a degree of playtime + promotion. If you have all classes at 20 (and N7 120 total), it gives you a better degree of understanding every other class. That's about all it matters.

Modifié par Edalborez, 14 avril 2012 - 02:45 .

[HOUSE MDD]

Ithas wrote...

This is untrue.
I'm an N7 rank 98 and I've been in lobbies with N7 Rank 800 and I'm a better player than that. Simply put it's an e-peen meter to display how much you play the game.

Exactly ive used this term many times and i think it best describes it. For some players . i myself are N 437  but unlike alot of people who get the power mad buzz out of the kick button, ill hapilly play with any rank on gold and have done successfully many times. I think the mp would be a more fun and friendly place if rather than kick everyone that dosent meet your standards, be friendly, offer advice, and help new people so they can get to a stage where you are, as we all started there but alot seem to forget it and treat newbies like crap. Fin .

[niko20]

Hm. Well I'm N7450 and I pretty much win every silver match I'm in, and am usually 1st if I'm using a Salarian Infiltrator..1st or 2nd with my new Asari Justicar..