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[Getorex]

slyguy200 wrote...

xconceptualx wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

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That's strange, because nearly all of the choices I've made in the Mass Effect series, including Mass Effect 3, have had an impact on the game. If half my crew dies on the suicide mission, they aren't in Mass Effect 3. Have a love interest in ME1 or ME2? You see additional scenes and hear new dialogue in ME3. Side with geth? Tali kills herself. Guess what? That's your choice having an impact in the game. I'm actually having a hard time thinking of choice you make that doesn't effect the game in anyway.

Impact on the ending of the game?

The ending is itself a choice. The only reason that Shepard even gets to that point, is because of the choices she has made thus far. Moreover, we already saw the consequences of choices made numerous times throughout the series, two of which I mentioned in the previous post. Why do those choices need to have an additional effect on the way the final events play out? That's not the way the world works. I think it's far more unrealistic that Shepard even has the benefit of three options to choose from in the end, rather than just one.

No direct impact though, so no it is not impacted by choices. We were told that the choices we made would cause real variations in the ending of the game not just throughout the game. And that sure as heck would have been much more rewarding than just a "pick your color" ending.

Name a few parts of ME that have been realistic and not just sci-fi.

Easy (with qualifications...not "realistic" but also NOT really sci-fi either): biotics.  Not sci-fi.  Biotics (ie, "magic") is actually fantasy, the ugly cousin of sci-fi.  The mass effect itself is sci-fi-y but biotics (adepts, et al) are absolutely NO different from wizards/sorcerors/witches/warlocks/what have you in silly midieval fantasy games.  Instead of making incantations and wearing leather/chain mail/plate armor/flowing robes they wear space armor or slinky dresses...or bikini tops and leather pants (Jack).  Fantasy all the way.

The non-sex "sex" that the asari have (mystical soul connection instead of the good stuff) is kindof a bastard daughter between sci-fi and fantasy.  All magicky but with an attempt (weak though it is) at a "sciencey" explanation. 

As for "realistic"...hmmm.  The fact that humans in the game can mate with humans.  That's realistic.  All the other mix-and-match stuff is not realistic and is pure sci-fi/fantasy.  After expending some real effort, however, that is the only "realistic" part in the entire series that I can put forth.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 mai 2012 - 04:29 .

[Persephone]

Definitely. Moreso than ME2. *Shrugs* 

But I know, the popular answer is "Nooooooooooo..............".

[Getorex]

slyguy200 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

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Easy (with qualifications...not "realistic" but also NOT really sci-fi either): biotics.  Not sci-fi.  Biotics (ie, "magic") is actually fantasy, the ugly cousin of sci-fi.  The mass effect itself is sci-fi-y but biotics (adepts, et al) are absolutely NO different from wizards/sorcerors/witches/warlocks/what have you in silly midieval fantasy games.  Instead of making incantations and wearing leather/chain mail/plate armor/flowing robes they wear space armor or slinky dresses...or bikini tops and leather pants (Jack).  Fantasy all the way.

The non-sex "sex" that the asari have (mystical soul connection instead of the good stuff) is kindof a bastard daughter between sci-fi and fantasy.  All magicky but with an attempt (weak though it is) at a "sciencey" explanation. 

As for "realistic"...hmmm.  The fact that humans in the game can mate with humans.  That's realistic.  All the other mix-and-match stuff is not realistic and is pure sci-fi/fantasy.  After expending some real effort, however, that is the only "realistic" part in the entire series that I can put forth.

Only 1 thing, i figured as much.

Barely even that really.  I thought when I started typing I would be able to come up with a couple or three things but I got almost nothing.  Humans mating wth humans is the best I can do but it isn't very good because it is wrecked by everyone being able to mix and match across species and entirely independent evolutionary histories.  Pyrrhic at best.

[xconceptualx]

Getorex wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

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Easy (with qualifications...not "realistic" but also NOT really sci-fi either): biotics.  Not sci-fi.  Biotics (ie, "magic") is actually fantasy, the ugly cousin of sci-fi.  The mass effect itself is sci-fi-y but biotics (adepts, et al) are absolutely NO different from wizards/sorcerors/witches/warlocks/what have you in silly midieval fantasy games.  Instead of making incantations and wearing leather/chain mail/plate armor/flowing robes they wear space armor or slinky dresses...or bikini tops and leather pants (Jack).  Fantasy all the way.

The non-sex "sex" that the asari have (mystical soul connection instead of the good stuff) is kindof a bastard daughter between sci-fi and fantasy.  All magicky but with an attempt (weak though it is) at a "sciencey" explanation. 

As for "realistic"...hmmm.  The fact that humans in the game can mate with humans.  That's realistic.  All the other mix-and-match stuff is not realistic and is pure sci-fi/fantasy.  After expending some real effort, however, that is the only "realistic" part in the entire series that I can put forth.

Only 1 thing, i figured as much.

Barely even that really.  I thought when I started typing I would be able to come up with a couple or three things but I got almost nothing.  Humans mating wth humans is the best I can do but it isn't very good because it is wrecked by everyone being able to mix and match across species and entirely independent evolutionary histories.  Pyrrhic at best.

The only mixing and matching going on between species (in terms of actual reproduction) occurs with the Asari. Interspecies sex is certainly occuring, but no interspecies offspring are being produced. Why is that unrealistic?

As far as adepts being fantasy and not sci-fi, I suppose you could make that case. But it's not like Bioware simply presents us with adepts without attempting to give us a science (however unrealistic it may be) behind their capacities. And if that is indeed the case, you cannot call Star Trek or Star Wars science fiction either. Vulcan mind melding, Di-Lithium crystal hyperdrives, and the Force are all just as "fantastic" as adepts manipulating dark energy with brain implants.

Modifié par xconceptualx, 24 mai 2012 - 05:13 .

[Getorex]

xconceptualx wrote...

Getorex wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

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Easy (with qualifications...not "realistic" but also NOT really sci-fi either): biotics.  Not sci-fi.  Biotics (ie, "magic") is actually fantasy, the ugly cousin of sci-fi.  The mass effect itself is sci-fi-y but biotics (adepts, et al) are absolutely NO different from wizards/sorcerors/witches/warlocks/what have you in silly midieval fantasy games.  Instead of making incantations and wearing leather/chain mail/plate armor/flowing robes they wear space armor or slinky dresses...or bikini tops and leather pants (Jack).  Fantasy all the way.

The non-sex "sex" that the asari have (mystical soul connection instead of the good stuff) is kindof a bastard daughter between sci-fi and fantasy.  All magicky but with an attempt (weak though it is) at a "sciencey" explanation. 

As for "realistic"...hmmm.  The fact that humans in the game can mate with humans.  That's realistic.  All the other mix-and-match stuff is not realistic and is pure sci-fi/fantasy.  After expending some real effort, however, that is the only "realistic" part in the entire series that I can put forth.

Only 1 thing, i figured as much.

Barely even that really.  I thought when I started typing I would be able to come up with a couple or three things but I got almost nothing.  Humans mating wth humans is the best I can do but it isn't very good because it is wrecked by everyone being able to mix and match across species and entirely independent evolutionary histories.  Pyrrhic at best.

The only mixing and matching going on between species (in terms of actually reproduction) occurs with the Asari. Interspecies sex is certainly occuring, but no interspecies offspring are being produced. Why is that unrealistic?

As far as adepts being fantasy and not sci-fi, I suppose you could make that case. But it's not like Bioware simply presents us with adepts without attempting to give us a science (however unrealistic it may be) behind their capacities. And if that is indeed the case, you cannot call Star Trek or Star Wars science fiction either. Vulcan mind melding, Di-Lithium crystal hyperdrives, and the Force are all just as "fantastic" as adepts manipulating dark energy with brain implants.

Really?  That's easy.  Let's go with spiders and dogs.  Let's assume some genetic manipulation (for some bizarre reason) so that we have a BIG spider (about the max theoretical size possible at around the size of a chihuahua).  Let's also assume an actual chihuahua so that the two different species (but from the same planet and who both actually share a common ancestor...though WAY back about 500 million years or so) around the same size.  Can the dog and spider have "sex"?  NO!  Totally different sexual organs, totally different method of having sex.  That's pesky evolution for you.  Aliens will be MORE divergent than even a spider vs a dog!  

Let's get closer still: a chihuahua and a big rat.  Can they have sex?  NO!  They wouldn't even be interested in each other (though you can cheat and smear female-in-heat scent on the female in the pair from the opposite species so that the MALE of the pair has an 'interest' - the female, not at all).  They might go through the motions but the equipment doesn't mesh.  Totally different evolutionary history and even with a very similar physical body plan it still can't work. 

Aliens from an entirely separate planet with an entirely independent evolutionary history HAVE to be incompatibly different in that department.  It cannot work.  You cannot expect a quarian to have a conveniently located (and physically compatible) vagina that will happily accomodate a human male penis.  That woudn't even happen between turians and quarians...merely being "dextro" doesn't have anything to do with sex organ layout and mechanics.  There can be no sex between aliens.  There cannot even be sexual ATTRACTION except by those extreme minorities that are deviant/dysfunctional and get into cross-species "liasons" as it is (sorry, but it is NOT acceptable to be a human interested in sex with dogs, goats, horses, whatever.   That is NOT discriminatory and prejudicial, that is just universal and proper.  It would NOT change the issue if dogs had intelligence similar to humans - it would simply be deviant and dysfunctional and unacceptable for a human to boink a dog, regardless of the intelligence of either).  

We're talking "realistic" here, not what is "acceptable" trope in sci-fi.  Star Trek goes there all the time but then all aliens that are potential sex interests are ALWAYS exceedingly human and never really "alien".  Not realistic at all.

Oh, and the same critique I have for ME (biotics ARE magic and thus fantasy, NOT sci-fi) goes for Star Wars (the "force" IS magic.  Period) and to a lessor extent, Star Trek (mind melds, telepathy, are magic).  Magic is fantasy, not sci-fi.  You can toss magic into sci-fi but it isn't then purely sci-fi is it?  it is science fantasy at that point.  Thus ME and Star Wars is science fantasy in a BIG way and Star Trek is sci-fi with fantasy elements.  Personally, I'd be happy with a sci-fi game, movie, series that totally dispensed with ANY magic and simply stuck with the science part of the sci-fi equation.  For ME that would mean you could keep the magic-LIKE tech stuff (the combat drone stuff, electroshock stuff, all from the multitool thingy) but dump the magicky biotic stuff.  You can get to a rough equivalent of the biotic magic without actually having it work like magic - via types of tech that follow very circumscribed rules.  Not a huge leap needed but better than just having people being able to magically move sh*t with a thought.  Ugh.  You get a lot of good tech that does the job in Deus Ex: Human Revolution but it is all TECH, none of it is magicky.  You get a LOT more realism in that game than in any ME game, especially since they started wtih real tech and real planned tech and extrapolated rather than making sh*t up from nothing.

Modifié par Getorex, 24 mai 2012 - 05:42 .

[xconceptualx]

Getorex wrote...

xconceptualx wrote...

Getorex wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

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Easy (with qualifications...not "realistic" but also NOT really sci-fi either): biotics.  Not sci-fi.  Biotics (ie, "magic") is actually fantasy, the ugly cousin of sci-fi.  The mass effect itself is sci-fi-y but biotics (adepts, et al) are absolutely NO different from wizards/sorcerors/witches/warlocks/what have you in silly midieval fantasy games.  Instead of making incantations and wearing leather/chain mail/plate armor/flowing robes they wear space armor or slinky dresses...or bikini tops and leather pants (Jack).  Fantasy all the way.

The non-sex "sex" that the asari have (mystical soul connection instead of the good stuff) is kindof a bastard daughter between sci-fi and fantasy.  All magicky but with an attempt (weak though it is) at a "sciencey" explanation. 

As for "realistic"...hmmm.  The fact that humans in the game can mate with humans.  That's realistic.  All the other mix-and-match stuff is not realistic and is pure sci-fi/fantasy.  After expending some real effort, however, that is the only "realistic" part in the entire series that I can put forth.

Only 1 thing, i figured as much.

Barely even that really.  I thought when I started typing I would be able to come up with a couple or three things but I got almost nothing.  Humans mating wth humans is the best I can do but it isn't very good because it is wrecked by everyone being able to mix and match across species and entirely independent evolutionary histories.  Pyrrhic at best.

The only mixing and matching going on between species (in terms of actually reproduction) occurs with the Asari. Interspecies sex is certainly occuring, but no interspecies offspring are being produced. Why is that unrealistic?

As far as adepts being fantasy and not sci-fi, I suppose you could make that case. But it's not like Bioware simply presents us with adepts without attempting to give us a science (however unrealistic it may be) behind their capacities. And if that is indeed the case, you cannot call Star Trek or Star Wars science fiction either. Vulcan mind melding, Di-Lithium crystal hyperdrives, and the Force are all just as "fantastic" as adepts manipulating dark energy with brain implants.

Really?  That's easy.  Let's go with spiders and dogs.  Let's assume some genetic manipulation (for some bizarre reason) so that we have a BIG spider (about the max theoretical size possible at around the size of a chihuahua).  Let's also assume an actual chihuahua so that the two different species (but from the same planet and who both actually share a common ancestor...though WAY back about 500 million years or so) around the same size.  Can the dog and spider have "sex"?  NO!  Totally different sexual organs, totally different method of having sex.  That's pesky evolution for you.  Aliens will be MORE divergent than even a spider vs a dog!  

Let's get closer still: a chihuahua and a big rat.  Can they have sex?  NO!  They wouldn't even be interested in each other (though you can cheat and smear female-in-heat scent on the female in the pair from the opposite species so they have an 'interest').  They might go through the motions but the equipment doesn't mesh.  Totally different evolutionary history and even with a very similar physical body plan it still can't work. 

Aliens from an entirely separate planet with an entirely independent evolutionary history HAVE to be incompatibly different in that department.  It cannot work.  You cannot expect a quarian to have a conveniently located (and physically compatible) vagina that will happily accomodate a human male penis.  That woudn't even happen between turians and quarians...merely being "dextro" doesn't have anything to do with sex organ layout and mechanics.  There can be no sex between aliens.  There cannot even be sexual ATTRACTION except by those extreme minorities that are deviant/dysfunctional and get into cross-species "liasons" as it is (sorry, but it is NOT acceptable to be a human interested in sex with dogs, goats, horses, whatever.   That is NOT discriminatory and prejudicial, that is just universal and proper.  It would NOT change the issue if dogs had intelligence similar to humans - it would simply be deviant and dysfunctional and unacceptable for a human to boink a dog, regardless of the intelligence of either).  

We're talking "realistic" here, not what is "acceptable" trope in sci-fi.  Star Trek goes there all the time but then all aliens that are potential sex interests are ALWAYS exceedingly human and never really "alien".  Not realistic at all.

You assume that because two lifeforms evolve on seperate planets, in distinct environments, that the two must be "different in every department". This is not necessarily true, especially if the lifeforms are evolving in a similar environment, which most garden worlds seem to share. Just look at examples of covergent evolution on earth. Cacti in the deserts of North America and the cacti in Australia do not have a close ancestory, yet both look and possess strikingly similar traits. These similarities evolved independetly of each other.

Of course I'm not saying all or even most of alien life is going to be anthropomorphic. Mass Effect and every other Sci-fi enterprise is guilty. I agree with you on that point. But it's never going to change.

But the last point you make, that only the deviant members of a species would be attracted to members of other species, is completely absurd. Case in point: take a poll on how many members here would have a fling or a relationship with an Asari. You're going to get more "yes" than "no", that I can promise you.

Whether or not the Quarians or Asari have a vagina or something analagous to a vagina is not the point. It is irrelevant where the sexual organs "fit in" to the member of the other species, so long as the two are mature enough to give consent to engage in what may be deemed as "sexual behavior". Intelligence is the only thing that matters, not whether the two are meant for each other in a purely biological sense. It would follow from your reasoning that homosexuality between members of our own species is wrong and deviant behavior.

[Mr. Gogeta34]

Is ME3 GOTY worthy? Not in my opinion... but with the Extended Cut, it's theirs to loose. Outside of Diablo 3, Halo 4, Assassin's Creed 3, and possibly GTA (big contender), I don't think it has any other competitors.

[Zeroth Angel]

No.
And just for the record not just because of the ending.

[CELL55]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
It seems too late to me to have the Extended Cut DLC just clarify. Maybe if it had been clear to begin with, everything would have been fine. But I think that it's too late for that, and 'clarity' won't be enough for a lot of people. If anyone can do it it's Bioware, but I'm really freaking skeptical.

[LuckySe7enty]

even if it was, (which it isnt) there are too many other games coming out closer to the awards season that people will remember better, i have a feeling that Assassins creed 3 or Halo 4 will wipe the floor. ME3 might get soundtrack, it was very good and maybe gamespots most dissapointing game 2012, lol.

[Getorex]

xconceptualx wrote...

Getorex wrote...

xconceptualx wrote...

Getorex wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

Getorex wrote...

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Easy (with qualifications...not "realistic" but also NOT really sci-fi either): biotics.  Not sci-fi.  Biotics (ie, "magic") is actually fantasy, the ugly cousin of sci-fi.  The mass effect itself is sci-fi-y but biotics (adepts, et al) are absolutely NO different from wizards/sorcerors/witches/warlocks/what have you in silly midieval fantasy games.  Instead of making incantations and wearing leather/chain mail/plate armor/flowing robes they wear space armor or slinky dresses...or bikini tops and leather pants (Jack).  Fantasy all the way.

The non-sex "sex" that the asari have (mystical soul connection instead of the good stuff) is kindof a bastard daughter between sci-fi and fantasy.  All magicky but with an attempt (weak though it is) at a "sciencey" explanation. 

As for "realistic"...hmmm.  The fact that humans in the game can mate with humans.  That's realistic.  All the other mix-and-match stuff is not realistic and is pure sci-fi/fantasy.  After expending some real effort, however, that is the only "realistic" part in the entire series that I can put forth.

Only 1 thing, i figured as much.

Barely even that really.  I thought when I started typing I would be able to come up with a couple or three things but I got almost nothing.  Humans mating wth humans is the best I can do but it isn't very good because it is wrecked by everyone being able to mix and match across species and entirely independent evolutionary histories.  Pyrrhic at best.

The only mixing and matching going on between species (in terms of actually reproduction) occurs with the Asari. Interspecies sex is certainly occuring, but no interspecies offspring are being produced. Why is that unrealistic?

As far as adepts being fantasy and not sci-fi, I suppose you could make that case. But it's not like Bioware simply presents us with adepts without attempting to give us a science (however unrealistic it may be) behind their capacities. And if that is indeed the case, you cannot call Star Trek or Star Wars science fiction either. Vulcan mind melding, Di-Lithium crystal hyperdrives, and the Force are all just as "fantastic" as adepts manipulating dark energy with brain implants.

Really?  That's easy.  Let's go with spiders and dogs.  Let's assume some genetic manipulation (for some bizarre reason) so that we have a BIG spider (about the max theoretical size possible at around the size of a chihuahua).  Let's also assume an actual chihuahua so that the two different species (but from the same planet and who both actually share a common ancestor...though WAY back about 500 million years or so) around the same size.  Can the dog and spider have "sex"?  NO!  Totally different sexual organs, totally different method of having sex.  That's pesky evolution for you.  Aliens will be MORE divergent than even a spider vs a dog!  

Let's get closer still: a chihuahua and a big rat.  Can they have sex?  NO!  They wouldn't even be interested in each other (though you can cheat and smear female-in-heat scent on the female in the pair from the opposite species so they have an 'interest').  They might go through the motions but the equipment doesn't mesh.  Totally different evolutionary history and even with a very similar physical body plan it still can't work. 

Aliens from an entirely separate planet with an entirely independent evolutionary history HAVE to be incompatibly different in that department.  It cannot work.  You cannot expect a quarian to have a conveniently located (and physically compatible) vagina that will happily accomodate a human male penis.  That woudn't even happen between turians and quarians...merely being "dextro" doesn't have anything to do with sex organ layout and mechanics.  There can be no sex between aliens.  There cannot even be sexual ATTRACTION except by those extreme minorities that are deviant/dysfunctional and get into cross-species "liasons" as it is (sorry, but it is NOT acceptable to be a human interested in sex with dogs, goats, horses, whatever.   That is NOT discriminatory and prejudicial, that is just universal and proper.  It would NOT change the issue if dogs had intelligence similar to humans - it would simply be deviant and dysfunctional and unacceptable for a human to boink a dog, regardless of the intelligence of either).  

We're talking "realistic" here, not what is "acceptable" trope in sci-fi.  Star Trek goes there all the time but then all aliens that are potential sex interests are ALWAYS exceedingly human and never really "alien".  Not realistic at all.

You assume that because two lifeforms evolve on seperate planets, in distinct environments, that the two must be "different in every department". This is not necessarily true, especially if the lifeforms are evolving in a similar environment, which most garden worlds seem to share. Just look at examples of covergent evolution on earth. Cacti in the deserts of North America and the cacti in Australia do not have a close ancestory, yet both look and possess strikingly similar traits. These similarities evolved independetly of each other.

Of course I'm not saying all or even most of alien life is going to be anthropomorphic. Mass Effect and every other Sci-fi enterprise is guilty. I agree with you on that point. But it's never going to change.

But the last point you make, that only the deviant members of a species would be attracted to members of other species, is completely absurd. Case in point: take a poll on how many members here would have a fling or a relationship with an Asari. You're going to get more "yes" than "no", that I can promise you.

Whether or not the Quarians or Asari have a vagina or something analagous to a vagina is not the point. It is irrelevant where the sexual organs "fit in" to the member of the other species, so long as the two are mature enough to give consent to engage in what may be deemed as "sexual behavior". Intelligence is the only thing that matters, not whether the two are meant for each other in a purely biological sense. It would follow from your reasoning that homosexuality between members of our own species is wrong and deviant behavior.

No.  Sexual attraction is required for sex to happen, NOT simply "brains".  If a chimp could have a conversation and tell jokes and go to university, etc, it would NEVER be sexually attractive to anyone but the sickest of humans (and vice versa).  It's a CHIMP regardless of its brains.  A hyper-intelligent dog is still a dog and NOT a subject for human sexual interaction REGARDLESS of brains.  You just don't go there.

Brains/social interaction are merely a part of sexual attraction, not the only thing necessary.  Sexual attraction is a physical/biological thing and in a NORMAL person doesn't extend beyond their own species.  

[Getorex]

LuckySe7enty wrote...

even if it was, (which it isnt) there are too many other games coming out closer to the awards season that people will remember better, i have a feeling that Assassins creed 3 or Halo 4 will wipe the floor. ME3 might get soundtrack, it was very good and maybe gamespots most dissapointing game 2012, lol.

Pretty much this too.  There are quite a few games yet to be released that could (will) easily leave a real, POSITIVE, impression upon players and public.  ME3 is NOT it.  Not by a long shot.

Not interested in console-only games (so Halo anything is out for GOTY).  Half-Life 2: Episode 3 could do a good job.  Talk about anticipated...anything Half-Life is highly anticipated (and it isn't restricted to a subset of consoles only either). 

The year is still young.  The REAL GOTY is yet to be released.

As you state, however, ME3 is a sure bet for most disappointing game of 2012.  Shoe-in.

[Getorex]

jreezy wrote...

Getorex wrote...
Half-Life 2: Episode 3 could do a good job. 

That game is just an urban legend.

Hah!  A decent "Duke Nukem' Forever" was an urban legend that has yet to be fulfilled.  Episode 3 is an announced game (October this year).  I will trust in Valve until I cannot trust in Valve.

[PluralAces]

No

[xconceptualx]

Getorex wrote...

No.  Sexual attraction is required for sex to happen, NOT simply "brains".  If a chimp could have a conversation and tell jokes and go to university, etc, it would NEVER be sexually attractive to anyone but the sickest of humans (and vice versa).  It's a CHIMP regardless of its brains.  A hyper-intelligent dog is still a dog and NOT a subject for human sexual interaction REGARDLESS of brains.  You just don't go there.

Brains/social interaction are merely a part of sexual attraction, not the only thing necessary.  Sexual attraction is a physical/biological thing and in a NORMAL person doesn't extend beyond their own species.  

Yes, sexual attraction is typically required for sex to happen. I don't doubt that even if dogs and chimps possessed the same mental capacities as humans that most of us would not be attracted to each other. This is because these species lack the physical characteristics that the majority of us find appealing (e.g. facial features, bone structures, etc.). Quarians and Asari however, do not lack these most of these characteristics. They very much look human, and have mental capacities that exceed our own. Therefore, the only reason you could argue that it is wrong to engage in sexual activities with either of said species is solely becasue they are a different species, i.e. the two cannot produce offspring. Is this a conclusion you're willing to accept?

[Fnork]

Hell no.

[Astralify]

Wimbini wrote...

No.
And just for the record not just because of the ending.

This.

[BeefoTheBold]

No chance in hell is ME3 GOTY worthy. Anytime your game ends so incredibly badly that you spawn a massive retake movement and outrage that STILL hasn't died down based entirely on the fact that it's revealed you've been lying to your fanbase for years you should be eliminated from GOTY consideration no matter how good the rest of the game is. (Not as good as the first two.)

[AdamJenson]

NO. And how did this thread work its way to the front page again? It's an inherently silly and self-answering question.

Oh...the OP was being facetious. I get it.