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[AdamJenson]

MerchantGOL wrote...

halo4 is ME3's only competion for Goty

No.  Only in a very limited sense.  Halo 4 is xbox ONLY.  A true GOTY is going to be multi-platform with a MUCH bigger player audience.

An xbox GOTY is not as big a deal as a GOTY on multiplatform.

[AdamJenson]

slyguy200 wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

halo4 is ME3's only competion for Goty

No.  Only in a very limited sense.  Halo 4 is xbox ONLY.  A true GOTY is going to be multi-platform with a MUCH bigger player audience.

An xbox GOTY is not as big a deal as a GOTY on multiplatform.

Other halo games have gotten GOTY before.

And its doesn't cut as much as a GOTY that plays on PS3, PC, xbox, etc.  The audiences are much bigger, the money made is much greater. 

The "year's best movie" award doesn't count for much if you are talking about "The State of Texas Year's Best Movie" vs worldwide (or at least nationwide) "Year's Best Movie".  Who cares that Texas liked something? 

[Oni Changas]

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

[AdamJenson]

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

I wouldn't even declare that if the ending had been quite excellent.  I would have to wait until the year is almost over to make the determination.  Compare it with the alternatives. 

It's silly really, like when movies come out (barely out a day...sometimes they aren't even released yet but the PR hype goes on) and it is immediately called, "Best movie of the year!" 

Huh?  No one has SEEN it yet but a few nimrod critic or a handful of people in Germany.  There's no way to judge it "best picture" at release.  You have to wait until you can compare it to the competing movies first. 

[AdamJenson]

slyguy200 wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...

slyguy200 wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

halo4 is ME3's only competion for Goty

No.  Only in a very limited sense.  Halo 4 is xbox ONLY.  A true GOTY is going to be multi-platform with a MUCH bigger player audience.

An xbox GOTY is not as big a deal as a GOTY on multiplatform.

Other halo games have gotten GOTY before.

And its doesn't cut as much as a GOTY that plays on PS3, PC, xbox, etc.  The audiences are much bigger, the money made is much greater. 

The "year's best movie" award doesn't count for much if you are talking about "The State of Texas Year's Best Movie" vs worldwide (or at least nationwide) "Year's Best Movie".  Who cares that Texas liked something? 

IDC, Halo has one before, and can win again.

But then the response is "Big deal?"  Xbox?  Most people aren't xboxers.  Thus you are talking about a game being "year's best" no a platform that is only a subset of the gaming public so...so what?  Great if you are an xboxer but a big, "so what" for everyone else.  

In many respects, an award of GOTY is about as worthwhile as a professional critic's review of Mass Effect 3 (or any other game).  Not worh much at all.

[AdamJenson]

jreezy wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending.

No it wasn't.

Hey!  The sidequest system alone is worthy of GOTY.  Hell, get rid of the main missions and JUST make it a game based on those EXCELLENT side quests and you have yourself a rock solid GOTY!

[AdamJenson]

slyguy200 wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...

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But then the response is "Big deal?"  Xbox?  Most people aren't xboxers.  Thus you are talking about a game being "year's best" no a platform that is only a subset of the gaming public so...so what?  Great if you are an xboxer but a big, "so what" for everyone else.  

In many respects, an award of GOTY is about as worthwhile as a professional critic's review of Mass Effect 3 (or any other game).  Not worh much at all.

Well, duh. Not everyone was a boxer in the day. And what does boxing have to do with anything?

I say it the way i do because halo games have won GOTY before. Thus there is nothing to stop Halo 4 from getting GOTY aside from its quality. A good game is a good game, I don't think the platform issue can stop that.

I guess I'm not sure what the value of GOTY is exactly.  I can buy any number of GOTY games...Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom games, Half Life(?), etc.  It seems almost any game I've played or wanted to play has a GOTY edition I COULD buy so I wonder...who decided it was GOTY?  Do you just get to call it that?  Do we have a Gamespot GOTY vs other site GOTYs?  

Is this all a personal GOTY question?  I STILL would refuse to give an answer even if ME3 was everything and MORE than I hoped because I insist on being fair and proper...can't name something "something of the year" before the end of the year.  Who knows what I might stumble upon before the year is out?  

[Grimwick]

AdamJenson wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

halo4 is ME3's only competion for Goty

No.  Only in a very limited sense.  Halo 4 is xbox ONLY.  A true GOTY is going to be multi-platform with a MUCH bigger player audience.

An xbox GOTY is not as big a deal as a GOTY on multiplatform.

Uncharted still won GOTY and that's a ps3 only game...

[Menethra]

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

The ending sucked beyond all belief but it wasn't just the ending.

1- Eavsdropping was lazy and cost saving unlike ME1 and ME2 in which picking up missions resulted in cutscenes.

2- Thessia's campaign was to short way to short. So much for the Asari Homeworld huh?

3- The Rachni played next to no real role other than very little War Assets. BioWare had built this up since the beginning when you saved her. In the second game the asari on ilum told you that the rachni would fight by your side, did they? Technically yes but it was lazy to shove them into the war assets section.

BioWare seemed to adopt a lot of cost cutting measures in order to rush this game out. The ending was the worst of it all but this game should never be considered for game of the year.  But i'll bet that IGN will give it GOTY regardless of it's shortcomings.

Modifié par Menethra, 29 mai 2012 - 05:06 .

[dreman9999]

Menethra wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

The ending sucked beyond all belief but it wasn't just the ending.

1- Eavsdropping was lazy and cost saving unlike ME1 and ME2 in which picking up missions resulted in cutscenes.

2- Thessia's campaign was to short way to short. So much for the Asari Homeworld huh?

3- The Rachni played next to no real role other than very little War Assets. BioWare had built this up since the beginning when you saved her. In the second game the asari on ilum told you that the rachni would fight by your side, did they? Technically yes but it was lazy to shove them into the war assets section.

BioWare seemed to adopt a lot of cost cutting measures in order to rush this game out. The ending was the worst of it all but this game should never be considered for game of the year.  But i'll bet that IGN will give it GOTY regardless of it's shortcomings.

None of those makes the game bad or no goty worty.

[AdamJenson]

slyguy200 wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...
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I guess I'm not sure what the value of GOTY is exactly.  I can buy any number of GOTY games...Return to Castle Wolfenstein, Doom games, Half Life(?), etc.  It seems almost any game I've played or wanted to play has a GOTY edition I COULD buy so I wonder...who decided it was GOTY?  Do you just get to call it that?  Do we have a Gamespot GOTY vs other site GOTYs?  

Is this all a personal GOTY question?  I STILL would refuse to give an answer even if ME3 was everything and MORE than I hoped because I insist on being fair and proper...can't name something "something of the year" before the end of the year.  Who knows what I might stumble upon before the year is out?  

GOTY edition is the game + the DLC on a second disc.

Halo 4 comes out in november, many of the other games will have been released by then, and halo will still be the best.

Nah. Just an xbox shooter.  Never played it don't care to.  Halo schmalo.

[Kiadaw]

Any new halo is automatically up for contests, just like any new Blizzard game.

Actually, I have been playing Diablo 3 for the last few days, & going by the 'unusual' changes that made from D2 to D3, the last 10 mins of Me effect 3 seems not such a big deal.

& it wasn't all that bad to begin with other then some plotholes, & lack of conclusion. Hero save the day, sacrifice himself is perfectly acceptable in 90% of all games & story.
Yes, there is some broken promises, like 6 different endings, & your choice will matters, but you can still enjoy the game. I know I did.

If one did not play the game, & visit this forum, they would have though the ending is along the line of Shepard throw a magical mushroom at the reaper, & the mushroom transform to an army of Steven Seagal attacking the reaper, drivimg the reaper away. This I can understand that it ruin the series totally.

Now look at D3, its fun (no mistake, especially in a team), but they take away 2 of the most important things what make D2 so successful, leveling & character customization. You can reach max level by casually playing for less than a week. This is not diablo.

[AdamJenson]

slyguy200 wrote...

Grimwick wrote...

AdamJenson wrote...

MerchantGOL wrote...

halo4 is ME3's only competion for Goty

No.  Only in a very limited sense.  Halo 4 is xbox ONLY.  A true GOTY is going to be multi-platform with a MUCH bigger player audience.

An xbox GOTY is not as big a deal as a GOTY on multiplatform.

Uncharted still won GOTY and that's a ps3 only game...

Because it is a good game, the platform issue meant nothing.

Was it?  Who knows it is other than a small population of PS3ers?  No one else does and no one is going to buy some console JUST to play this game or that game.  GOTY is useless except as a packaging gimmick (meaning all available content is in the one package).  Beyond that, good game, bad game...meh.

[AdamJenson]

Kiadaw wrote...

Any new halo is automatically up for contests, just like any new Blizzard game.

Actually, I have been playing Diablo 3 for the last few days, & going by the 'unusual' changes that made from D2 to D3, the last 10 mins of Me effect 3 seems not such a big deal.

& it wasn't all that bad to begin with other then some plotholes, & lack of conclusion. Hero save the day, sacrifice himself is perfectly acceptable in 90% of all games & story.
Yes, there is some broken promises, like 6 different endings, & your choice will matters, but you can still enjoy the game. I know I did.

If one did not play the game, & visit this forum, they would have though the ending is along the line of Shepard throw a magical mushroom at the reaper, & the mushroom transform to an army of Steven Seagal attacking the reaper, drivimg the reaper away. This I can understand that it ruin the series totally.

Now look at D3, its fun (no mistake, especially in a team), but they take away 2 of the most important things what make D2 so successful, leveling & character customization. You can reach max level by casually playing for less than a week. This is not diablo.

It isn't "hero sacrifices himself to save the day" trope.  It is the WAY it was done.  The story around/behind this sacrifice was ridiculous on its face.  You cannot simply tack on "he dies, saves the day, the end" and call it good.  The problems are in the HOW of the ending (as well as failed promises concerning nature of endings, plural). 

[Menethra]

dreman9999 wrote...

Menethra wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

The ending sucked beyond all belief but it wasn't just the ending.

1- Eavsdropping was lazy and cost saving unlike ME1 and ME2 in which picking up missions resulted in cutscenes.

2- Thessia's campaign was to short way to short. So much for the Asari Homeworld huh?

3- The Rachni played next to no real role other than very little War Assets. BioWare had built this up since the beginning when you saved her. In the second game the asari on ilum told you that the rachni would fight by your side, did they? Technically yes but it was lazy to shove them into the war assets section.

BioWare seemed to adopt a lot of cost cutting measures in order to rush this game out. The ending was the worst of it all but this game should never be considered for game of the year.  But i'll bet that IGN will give it GOTY regardless of it's shortcomings.

None of those makes the game bad or no goty worty.

So i suppose it was just in my head that whole " Your choices matter " thing huh? BioWare advertised 16 different endings, we got 3 and they were crap at that. BioWare said our choices would matter come the ending, did they? Nope you got shoved into the same 3 endings regardless of what you did.

BioWare said you wouldn't need multiplayer to experience the best possible ending, guess what? You did need Multiplayer. This game was put back from 2011 into march of 2012 and despite that it still contains huge shortcomings in comparison to the previous games.

Maybe you believe that fine but considering how many of BioWares recently released games have gone many gamers including myself have gone from being fanatically loyal to wary of buying future BioWare games.

Modifié par Menethra, 29 mai 2012 - 05:18 .

[Kiadaw]

Menethra wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

The ending sucked beyond all belief but it wasn't just the ending.

1- Eavsdropping was lazy and cost saving unlike ME1 and ME2 in which picking up missions resulted in cutscenes.

2- Thessia's campaign was to short way to short. So much for the Asari Homeworld huh?

3- The Rachni played next to no real role other than very little War Assets. BioWare had built this up since the beginning when you saved her. In the second game the asari on ilum told you that the rachni would fight by your side, did they? Technically yes but it was lazy to shove them into the war assets section.

BioWare seemed to adopt a lot of cost cutting measures in order to rush this game out. The ending was the worst of it all but this game should never be considered for game of the year.  But i'll bet that IGN will give it GOTY regardless of it's shortcomings.

You want to talk about lazy, look at Diablo 3 dialog (which is like 100x less than ME3), most conversation are a dialog box poping out with the character face picture, & the game took like 7 years or so...

Most cutscenes (which are also not alot) are like powerpoint animation of a stretch artworks in D3. 

[Emerald69]

When the ending of a great game makes you sick to your stomach it deserves nothing more than to be forgotten and never to be talked about again...

[Seboist]

dreman9999 wrote...

Menethra wrote...

OniTYME wrote...

ME3 WAS GOTY worthy until gamers experienced the ending. I totally had it GOTY no contest before those last 10 minutes.

The ending sucked beyond all belief but it wasn't just the ending.

1- Eavsdropping was lazy and cost saving unlike ME1 and ME2 in which picking up missions resulted in cutscenes.

2- Thessia's campaign was to short way to short. So much for the Asari Homeworld huh?

3- The Rachni played next to no real role other than very little War Assets. BioWare had built this up since the beginning when you saved her. In the second game the asari on ilum told you that the rachni would fight by your side, did they? Technically yes but it was lazy to shove them into the war assets section.

BioWare seemed to adopt a lot of cost cutting measures in order to rush this game out. The ending was the worst of it all but this game should never be considered for game of the year.  But i'll bet that IGN will give it GOTY regardless of it's shortcomings.

None of those makes the game bad or no goty worty.

It being a mediocre corridor popamole shooter with a pulp schlock story on the other hand does.

Modifié par Seboist, 29 mai 2012 - 05:42 .