Is Mass Effect 3 GOTY worthy?
#1051
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 05:13
#1052
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 05:15
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
#1053
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 05:23
My answer to this is no. ME1 and ME2 was GOTY worthy(before ME3 and it's horrible ending), and got my vote as GOTY games. This game will get my vote for most disappointing game this year.
Even if the game was pretty good most of the time, the ending was so bad it is not even funny bad.
Edit: But if the EC dlc can save the replayability at least and not be complete garbage, then it may have my vote. But that depends on the rest of the year and what games are released.
Modifié par Merwanor, 13 juin 2012 - 05:25 .
#1054
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 05:30
Merwanor wrote...
Is a game that managed to destroy its own lore and the replayablity of the whole series GOTY worthy?
My answer to this is no. ME1 and ME2 was GOTY worthy(before ME3 and it's horrible ending), and got my vote as GOTY games. This game will get my vote for most disappointing game this year.
Even if the game was pretty good most of the time, the ending was so bad it is not even funny bad.
Edit: But if the EC dlc can save the replayability at least and not be complete garbage, then it may have my vote. But that depends on the rest of the year and what games are released.
Again...skyrim...
although i am not sure how Mass Effect 3 destroyed any lore. What do you mean by that?
#1055
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 06:11
Merwanor wrote...
Is a game that managed to destroy its own lore and the replayablity of the whole series GOTY worthy?
My answer to this is no. ME1 and ME2 was GOTY worthy(before ME3 and it's horrible ending), and got my vote as GOTY games. This game will get my vote for most disappointing game this year.
Even if the game was pretty good most of the time, the ending was so bad it is not even funny bad.
Edit: But if the EC dlc can save the replayability at least and not be complete garbage, then it may have my vote. But that depends on the rest of the year and what games are released.
^This^
With the actual ending don't count with my support for GOTY
#1056
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 06:17
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
I thought Arkham City or Deus Ex: Human Revolution would have been better choices than Skyrim for GOTY myself.LinksOcarina wrote...
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
#1057
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 06:19
Guest_Erik Lehnsherr_*
#1058
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 06:24
#1059
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 06:28
Cthulhu42 wrote...
I thought Arkham City or Deus Ex: Human Revolution would have been better choices than Skyrim for GOTY myself.LinksOcarina wrote...
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
I definitely would have preferred Deus Ex as GOTY. It's a shame about how little dlc they ended up releasing for it.
#1060
Guest_slyguy200_*
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 06:53
Guest_slyguy200_*
Skyrim was so amazing that it destroyed the replayability of the previous TES games in a good way.LinksOcarina wrote...
Merwanor wrote...
Is a game that managed to destroy its own lore and the replayablity of the whole series GOTY worthy?
My answer to this is no. ME1 and ME2 was GOTY worthy(before ME3 and it's horrible ending), and got my vote as GOTY games. This game will get my vote for most disappointing game this year.
Even if the game was pretty good most of the time, the ending was so bad it is not even funny bad.
Edit: But if the EC dlc can save the replayability at least and not be complete garbage, then it may have my vote. But that depends on the rest of the year and what games are released.
Again...skyrim...
although i am not sure how Mass Effect 3 destroyed any lore. What do you mean by that?
It makes most of your previous choices mean nothing. Through this it also makes it seem completely pointless to play the previous games.
Modifié par slyguy200, 13 juin 2012 - 06:54 .
#1061
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 08:22
i have payed a tteention, having wrx alive is a very diffent political climate then having wreave be incharge, or do you just not listen to the dialouge?slyguy200 wrote...
No.MerchantGOL wrote...
you mean like every other game?slyguy200 wrote...
Like i said there were a few good parts in ME3 that hit emotional gold, but that doesn't make up for the rest of the games faults. The game seems to play out exactly the same way, no matter what you have done in the previous games.MerchantGOL wrote...
slyguy200 wrote...
Look, it is just not GOTY worthy. You can pretend that it is all you want, but that doesn't change anything. The game was mediocre, and the ending did not help that. The writing was bad, the gameplay was not sufficient for extended play, it was rushed, lazy, kinda boring at times, had only a few good parts, and made a lot of your previous actions/choices seem completely irrelevant. All in all, it was not worth the money spent, nor any claims at GOTY... except from maybe IGN, who had an employee in the game.
This is bull ****? bad writingm hardly, if you find one game this year tha thits all the emotional ntoes as perfectly as me3 ill be surpised. Sayign your choices were ireelvant is all so bull****, as pretty much eveyr choice somes back in some way, from charcter cameo, to just throw away lines. TO say it wasn't worthy of the money spent, is bull ****, as it is a great game, great game play, great scense, quote ect.
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also their is abig difrence to tone, how the mission gets done, and why you would choose a certain outcoum if for example wwrex is alive or dead.
tis gmae has very little "faults"
Still seems to play out exactly the same.
Have you ever paid attention to the game? The faults are there, and they ruin the games ability for extended gameplay, which is neede for a long game like ME3.
Also destorys its lore, the **** it dose. your choices do matter, in who shows up, in the ems, in how many lives your able to save.
#1062
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 08:29
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Arkham City won GOTY somewhere I believe.Cthulhu42 wrote...
I thought Arkham City or Deus Ex: Human Revolution would have been better choices than Skyrim for GOTY myself.LinksOcarina wrote...
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
#1063
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 08:32
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It should've advertised itself like every other game then.MerchantGOL wrote...
slyguy200 wrote...
Like i said there were a few good parts in ME3 that hit emotional gold, but that doesn't make up for the rest of the games faults. The game seems to play out exactly the same way, no matter what you have done in the previous games.
you mean like every other game?
#1064
Guest_slyguy200_*
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 08:33
Guest_slyguy200_*
The game still plays out the same, either freaking way.MerchantGOL wrote...
i have payed a tteention, having wrx alive is a very diffent political climate then having wreave be incharge, or do you just not listen to the dialouge?slyguy200 wrote...
No.MerchantGOL wrote...
you mean like every other game?slyguy200 wrote...
Like i said there were a few good parts in ME3 that hit emotional gold, but that doesn't make up for the rest of the games faults. The game seems to play out exactly the same way, no matter what you have done in the previous games.MerchantGOL wrote...
slyguy200 wrote...
Look, it is just not GOTY worthy. You can pretend that it is all you want, but that doesn't change anything. The game was mediocre, and the ending did not help that. The writing was bad, the gameplay was not sufficient for extended play, it was rushed, lazy, kinda boring at times, had only a few good parts, and made a lot of your previous actions/choices seem completely irrelevant. All in all, it was not worth the money spent, nor any claims at GOTY... except from maybe IGN, who had an employee in the game.
This is bull ****? bad writingm hardly, if you find one game this year tha thits all the emotional ntoes as perfectly as me3 ill be surpised. Sayign your choices were ireelvant is all so bull****, as pretty much eveyr choice somes back in some way, from charcter cameo, to just throw away lines. TO say it wasn't worthy of the money spent, is bull ****, as it is a great game, great game play, great scense, quote ect.
By the end of the game, i was feeling tired of it and was in that "are we done yet?" phase cause it was just so boring and old at that point, the ending just made me angry. It felt as if it were lazily and sloppily just slapped together by a team of devs who didn't even care about what they were doing. To call this game or any part of it art is ridiculous, maybe ME2 was art, but not this. Fixing the ending would be a start.
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also their is abig difrence to tone, how the mission gets done, and why you would choose a certain outcoum if for example wwrex is alive or dead.
tis gmae has very little "faults"
Still seems to play out exactly the same.
Have you ever paid attention to the game? The faults are there, and they ruin the games ability for extended gameplay, which is neede for a long game like ME3.
Also destorys its lore, the **** it dose. your choices do matter, in who shows up, in the ems, in how many lives your able to save.
Modifié par slyguy200, 13 juin 2012 - 08:36 .
#1065
Posté 13 juin 2012 - 08:34
#1066
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 11:38
This is actually kind of interesting when you think about it. Should a game be judged on its state at time of release or when it's ultimaely finalized?magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
#1067
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 01:23
Cthulhu42 wrote...
I thought Arkham City or Deus Ex: Human Revolution would have been better choices than Skyrim for GOTY myself.LinksOcarina wrote...
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
You may be surprised but I'd have to go with the DEHR over Skyrim.
#1068
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 02:41
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The first one. The extended cut, whatever it does for the game, wasn't part of the vanilla experience. The original game that players got their hands on in the first place should always be the one judged. If a game needs DLC to improve the player's opinion of it to the point of being considered GOTY worthy, then it just isn't GOTY worthy. A game should be able to stand on its own as is. I consider Max Payne 3 to be GOTY material without any extra content via DLC.Ghost Clock wrote...
This is actually kind of interesting when you think about it. Should a game be judged on its state at time of release or when it's ultimaely finalized?magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
#1069
Guest_Cthulhu42_*
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 02:50
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You know, for some reason I'm not surprised at all.AdamJenson wrote...
Cthulhu42 wrote...
I thought Arkham City or Deus Ex: Human Revolution would have been better choices than Skyrim for GOTY myself.LinksOcarina wrote...
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
You may be surprised but I'd have to go with the DEHR over Skyrim.
#1070
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 04:08
jreezy wrote...
Arkham City won GOTY somewhere I believe.Cthulhu42 wrote...
I thought Arkham City or Deus Ex: Human Revolution would have been better choices than Skyrim for GOTY myself.LinksOcarina wrote...
magnetite wrote...
If the Extended Cut turns out to be a huge success, I'd say there's a good chance.
Compared to other games I've played (Diablo 3), Mass Effect 3's issues look like small potatoes. Diablo 3 has a lot of technical and other gameplay issues that need to be resolved.
speaking of which, they need to fix Skyrim still...oh wait it won, so we can't bash that pos...
It wont PSM (Playstation magazine) and Metacritic GOTY. Though it only won the Metacritic won because only a few had reviewed the PS3 version and it was left with 96%.
#1071
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 05:00
It will probably still win some GOTY awards from gaming sites and gaming award shows.
Modifié par Hawkster, 15 juin 2012 - 05:14 .
#1072
Posté 15 juin 2012 - 07:51
Now, don't get me wrong, I wasn't thrilled with the ending either, but in retrospect, I can remember having a blast. The story and even the ship talk between squad mates made me laugh and cry. The gameplay, story-telling, and graphics were really great. GOTY great imho. It will be interesting to see if the ending will ruin ME3's chances at GOTY or not and if they'll count the ending dlc or not.
But I'm still waiting on Bioshock Infinite and Dishonored.
#1073
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 02:21
#1074
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 02:32
I think the problems with the endings only brings the faults with the rest of the game into the light.MaulRat17 wrote...
I seems to me that the ending taints people's perspectives on how good the game was and if the ending hadn't been disappointing, I think most people who are dogging it now, wouldn't be.
Have an enjoyable ending to something and people will forget about almost anything bad that came before it. Yet have a bad ending and every little flaw is going to be raised as an example of why the thing was bad.
If people had enjoyed the ending we wouldn't be hearing complaints about the lack of player input in conversations, the eaves-dropping side-quests, the dodgy lip synch, off-putting 'comedy' animations etc.
Mass Effect and 2 both had flaws but because they ended in ways that people enjoyed, ME2 for example is still fun when you get everyone killed (including Shepard) in the final mission, those flaws get a pass for the most part.
#1075
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Posté 16 juin 2012 - 02:36
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I disagree.voteDC wrote...
If people had enjoyed the ending we wouldn't be hearing complaints about the lack of player input in conversations, the eaves-dropping side-quests...





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