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Admiral Hackett has no right to give a speech on the Normandy


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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

Stand down? Eat me. My Shepard tolerates Hackett- barely. But when the smoke clears she has full intention of kicking Hackett in the nuts.

That's MY Shepard.


Have fun getting court martialed...again. 

Spectre status doesn't protect you when there's no Council anymore.

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 13 avril 2012 - 02:20 .


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Lincoln MuaDib

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TheBlackBaron, you're lucky you're not Alliance High Command.

Surrender my weapon?

I'll surrender one bullet.

Where do you want it?

NO-ONE tells my Shepard what to do.

Not the Reapers.
Not Cerberus.
Not the Shadow Broker.
Not the Council.

And certainly not the Alliance that refused to even search for my body or devote even a credit towards finding the crash site of the SR1.

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Sounds like an angry teenager trying to be a rebel.

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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

TheBlackBaron, you're lucky you're not Alliance High Command.

Surrender my weapon?

I'll surrender one bullet.

Where do you want it?

NO-ONE tells my Shepard what to do.


Really? Nobody tells you what do you? What have you been doing for the past three games...oh yeah, being somebody's errand boy. 

"Surrender one bullet" my ass. You probably wind up getting shot while resisting arrest.

Sgt Stryker wrote...

Sounds like an angry teenager trying to be a rebel.

 

Indeed.

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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

NO-ONE tells my Shepard what to do.

False.

Shepard, go hunt down Saren. (ME1)

Shepard, go recruit people and stop the Collectors. (ME2)

Shepard, go build an alliance to stop the Reapers. (ME3)

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He is in command of alliance fleets and the normandy is an alliance ship so he has every right to do so.Shepard is just a junior to Hackett so he has to respect that.Shepard doesn't OWN the ship

Modifié par Super.Sid, 13 avril 2012 - 02:37 .


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I love Admiral Hackett, and my Shepard does respect him, and the work he is doing. He is the defacto leader of the Alliance and the human war effort.

Spectre status doesn't matter. If you don't want to deal with him, or the chain of command, then leave the Alliance military. Wait.... you can't do that. You can hate your CO, but you still have to show him proper respect, and you still have to salute him, and follow his orders. That is the way the military works.

If your Shepard were to attack Hackett, then they would be a criminal, and cause a political **** storm. Your dislike for the man is not a good enough reason to harm him, and clearly isn't about protecting Council space, which means that the Council would reprimand you.
You would probably lose some respect from Garrus, a lot from the VS, Joker, most of your alliance crew and probably the entire Alliance military, and Anderson would be spinning in his grave.

Modifié par Spitfire_mcguire, 13 avril 2012 - 02:44 .


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ReconTeam wrote...

Admiral Hackett can do what he wants. Why? Because he is Admiral ****ing Hackett.


And Lance Henriksen's got the ****in' voice!!

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I loved the Hackett speech! It was fine...unlikely the color-coded endings.

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I actually felt like almost all of the dialogue after launching the cerberus base attack was a bit of a let down, most of it was hammy and auto dialogued beyond making sense for my Shepard - but it was reasonably tight. After that though, the whole cerberus base and earth just felt like the dialogue was really missing any kick. I started to lose interest and was rather bummed by Hacketts speech. His two bodyguards waving their pistols around and one of them holding it like an assault rifle with gimped hands threw me too.

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I don't understand, do some of you have Varren up your ass?

The whole point of Mass Effect is that you play Shepard your own way.

Am I going online saying "You're wrong to play Shepard as an Engineer, he's a Soldier," am I saying, "Shepard clearly is a Colonist, she's in no way an Earthborn", or even "Shepard is a War Hero, you may think he's a Ruthless, but he's really not"?

No, I'm not.

So when I say that MY Shepard (not yours, I never speak for yours) has zero respect for Hackett, that she is nobody's puppet and has no respect for Alliance- just where do you come off suggesting that she's going to get shot?

Just what the FRACK is wrong with some of you?

Oh, right... Trolls.

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Without Hackett Shepard couldn't do half the things he did. It's wrong to say that Shepard was a 'tool,' but he was the tip of the spear. The pole was Hackett and Anderson. They have ALOT of influence within the Alliance and Citadel space, and have been backing up Shepard since the first game.

Shepard is the biggest badass in the galaxy, but Hackett obviously helps. Was Shepard going to take command over the Alliance fleets and the Crucible project AS WELL AS bringing peace to the Galaxy and kicking Reaper ass?

There was alot more to 'unite every speicies' than just solving their problems. Without Hackett, alot of the required leadership to mobilize the fleets etc etc... wouldn't have been possible.

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Of course Hackett makes the speech. Hackett is the officer in command and almost certainly the one responsible for drawing up the battleplan with the alien admirals.

Shepard has zero fleet command experience. Hell, as a jarhead in space shep probably doesn't even have much in the way of fleet training. He/She has never commanded more than a single frigate, and even then Joker pretty much takes over in battle, because Shep is an infantry commander.

Hackett's in overall command, and in just about every battle ever it's the field commander's job to address the men beforehand. It's not the responsibility of his free-roaming ambassadorial lackey.

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@OP: I understand what you are saying, and it is one of the cornerstones of the ME series.

But, there are certain things we don't have control over. Commander Shepard is an Alliance soldier in ME1, and is one in ME3. If your Shepard has no respect for the Alliance, why did she join up in the first place? Why didn't she throw her dog tags back at Anderson and say "sorry, I hate the Alliance. I'll get by on my Spectre status alone." Why didn't she tell Hackett to "go **** yourself?" Despite anyone's head canon, Shepard's being a soldier is central to the series. Therefore, she would have to play by the military rules...if they say jump, Shepard says "how high?"

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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

I don't understand, do some of you have Varren up your ass?

The whole point of Mass Effect is that you play Shepard your own way.

Am I going online saying "You're wrong to play Shepard as an Engineer, he's a Soldier," am I saying, "Shepard clearly is a Colonist, she's in no way an Earthborn", or even "Shepard is a War Hero, you may think he's a Ruthless, but he's really not"?

No, I'm not.

So when I say that MY Shepard (not yours, I never speak for yours) has zero respect for Hackett, that she is nobody's puppet and has no respect for Alliance- just where do you come off suggesting that she's going to get shot?

Just what the FRACK is wrong with some of you?

Oh, right... Trolls.


Unfortunatley, pre-set protagonists are not that versatile, but even so, every RPG has their limits. Even CRPGs have their limits.

Auto-dialouge has existed since the days of Planescape: Torment and Acanum: Of Steamworks and Magick obsucra. How? Because there are ALOT of cases that the PC has no control over their character, and there are ALOT of cases that give us only ONE dialouge option to pick - that is some form of autodialogue...

Hackett saying his speech is the same as Alistair or Anora saying his/her speech before the battle. Does it fit with our character? Maybe... but that's besides the point. RPGs have their limits. Only PnP RP has that amount of freedom.

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Tough luck.

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I'm with Batman on this one, you don't deserve the choice. You're irrational.

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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

So when I say that MY Shepard (not yours, I never speak for yours) has zero respect for Hackett, that she is nobody's puppet and has no respect for Alliance- just where do you come off suggesting that she's going to get shot?


Probably the fact that there are things you can't get around, such as that Shepard is an Alliance soldier, is no longer under Council protection at the end of ME3 due to their critical existence failure, and that attacking a superior officer -is- going to get you shot. 

You can rant about how you're your own person and call the Alliance ass monkeys all you want. You've got no choice but to respect their authoritah unless you want to spend the Reaper invasion in a brig somewhere. 

Modifié par TheBlackBaron, 13 avril 2012 - 04:20 .


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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

So when I say that MY Shepard (not yours, I never speak for yours) has zero respect for Hackett

Hackett's like Liara; you're not allowed to dislike him. He uses mind control to force you to become best friends.

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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

Who saved the Turian Head command, bringing the Turians onboard?
Me.
Who Ended the Krogan genophage, bringing the Krogans onboard?
Me.
Who ended the war between Quarians and Geth, bringing both races onboard?
Me.
Who gained the support of the Omega Mercs?
Me.
Who gained support of the Rachni?
Me.
Who gained Asari support?
Me.
Who brought the entire galaxy together in mere weeks?
Me.


So who the living FRACK does this Admiral Hackett thinks he is to give the "Rallying Speech" to the troops before the big push?

Wouldn't the other races be like, "Who the heck is that? I'm here for Shepard!"

Admiral Hackett- the Kanye West of Mass Effect.


The leader of the entire Alliance ****ing military, that's who.

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Cthulhu42 wrote...

Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

So when I say that MY Shepard (not yours, I never speak for yours) has zero respect for Hackett

Hackett's like Liara; you're not allowed to dislike him. He uses mind control to force you to become best friends.


But Hackett isn't shoved down our face and only their to give us advice. I don't see a valid reason to hate him, really. Plus; DAT VOICE!

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Hackett is voiced Lance Henriksen.
Hackett has always agreed with your decisions.
Hackett has always had your back.
Hackett believed in the reapers.
Hackett is Hackett.
Hackett didn't attack your decision in Arrival despite killing 100,000 Batarians and destroying a Mass Relay.

What's not to like about Hackett? Hackett is a bro just like Anderson, Garrus, and Wrex.

Modifié par FlashedMyDrive, 13 avril 2012 - 04:44 .


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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

TheBlackBaron, you're lucky you're not Alliance High Command.

Surrender my weapon?

I'll surrender one bullet.

Where do you want it?

NO-ONE tells my Shepard what to do.

Not the Reapers.
Not Cerberus.
Not the Shadow Broker.
Not the Council.

And certainly not the Alliance that refused to even search for my body or devote even a credit towards finding the crash site of the SR1.


Lol

Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

ImperatorMortis, Hackett used me to do his dirty work then abandoned me to a kangaroo court when it was all done.

You screw me over, you best sleep with one eye open, Hackett.

Without me, Hackett would be nothing. A commander with no fleet.

I'm supposed to respect him?

He's lucky I don't shoot him.

 

Yeah shoot him. You'd totally gain everyones trust then. I'm sure the Alliance would be glad to work for you. Also you'd just be arrested/killed if you pulled something like that. 

Modifié par ImperatorMortis, 13 avril 2012 - 05:07 .


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It doesn't matter what your feelings are about Hackett, OP. He doesn't have to earn your respect. Sheperd is a soldier, you respect Hackett's rank if not the man. If Sheperd wasn't an Alliance soldier in any of the games you would have a leg to stand on, as it stands though you're just being irrational.

In my opnion, Hackett is as awesome as Anderson.

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Lincoln MuaDib wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

He's your boss, OP, he can do whatever the **** he wants.


Actually, he's not.

Anderson reinstated me. Anderson's my boss.

Hackett can eat me.

I told you, MY Shepard has no respect for Hackett.

Yours can, if you want to.


...
And Hacket is Anderson's boss... which makes him Shepard's boss. Since, you know, they reinstated him/her. And if you check your mail at the begining of the game, Hackett aproved Anderson's reinstatement --- meaning even if Anderson says "welcome back bro!" it meant didly squat till Hackett aproved of it. Yanno. Being the boss and all.

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