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[rachellouise]

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

Modifié par rachellouise, 14 avril 2012 - 03:52 .

[EpyonX3]

rachellouise wrote...

No, they start coming up before you get onto that bit, and start banging/clawing at the wall. If they were after shepard, it would make sense not to ignore shepard, and go for the building.

Also, why would the door react to someone who wasn't there? The lock being red doesn't mean much, we are opening a door inside with a red lock hown.

Just ignore him. He's just here to argue in circles.

[The Protheans]

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

[rachellouise]

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

[EpyonX3]

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

The boy is seen running into the room while husks are scaling the walls. Those husks could have been going for the downed gunship.

When you climb down the ladder, there is a second group of husks that scale the builing and run straight at the walls and start clawing. If they wanted Shepard's body damaged enough for indoctrination, they could have all just dog piled him. Instead the ignored him completely.

[The Protheans]

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

No  one saw a kid go into that building, beatrice shepard didn't and neither did Anderson.

[dreman9999]

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

The second group never sees the kid being that he ran into the building before they showed up. That was my first point.
Those husk could be trying to climb the building.

[dreman9999]

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

When did these husk see the kid?

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

[dreman9999]

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

When did the husk see the kid?

[balance5050]

THE KID WAS JUST STANDING THERE MAN, JUST WATCHING AS HIS PLANET WAS BEING DESTROYED!!! If you just stand there and stare at him, he just stares. CREEPY!

[dreman9999]

EpyonX3 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

The boy is seen running into the room while husks are scaling the walls. Those husks could have been going for the downed gunship.

When you climb down the ladder, there is a second group of husks that scale the builing and run straight at the walls and start clawing. If they wanted Shepard's body damaged enough for indoctrination, they could have all just dog piled him. Instead the ignored him completely.

You do know that'sCommader  Shepard, right? Even the reaper know sending common Husk at him/her would never work.

[EpyonX3]

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Mandalorian9 wrote...

Nauks wrote...

It's hard to keep a civil discussion about I.T. without the knee-jerk "it's fake because it's fake" comments, void of any real counter arguments or analytical thought.

Thank you. I feel the same way. People are free to disprove it if they can, but they mostly revert to these types of comments before coing off as someone who feels superior to any who think the IT is a better ending then what is given to us. There is also a large amount of hate for the theory and those who believe it, and I'm getting tired of hearing these comments.

I at least have been backing up my claims against IT with video evidence, like this one

But I too get the dismissive comments even though it's there in plain sight. The negativity goes both ways unfortunately.

1.You first point ignores that fact that Anderson is a manifest of the part of the mind this not indoctrinated...It in no part has any link to Shepard living or dying, Just his will. And agein, Shep was shot in the arm and is just supporting himself with his only free arm.

2. Your secod point ignores the fact that reaper can indoctriate people via quantam intangalement one they get a connection. Guess what happens in Arrival...
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5vKMfh6gBk

This has been stated in the arrival dlc codex. And before you can talk about the kid in the vents, please prove that his is real, first.
And one last thing...No one is say the reaper growl is in Shepards head.
3.And your last point...



Let's just say that it may not be what you think it is....

Wow. So many things wrong with this.

1) Let's stop calling things fact here because I really don't think you know what it means. Even some hard core theorists would admit that most of IT is speculation. You call the Anderson link a fact, I show evidence suggesting otherwise, yet I'm ignoring it? What kind of logic is that?

2) Holy Moly that's another new one! If reapers are capable of indoctrinating from long range without being in contact with the individual, why the hell didn't they just indoctrinate the galaxy and prevent synthetics from being created in the first place? They didn't even have to invade at that point. Also, where in the ME universe is this described?

3)Rebar again? I find it funny how the rebar here looks completely different than the cables at the end and they're both CG scenes. I'm not getting into this for 50th time. I'll just post the pics you ignored on system wars and made you run from that thread.

http://i43.tinypic.com/34f8g.png

http://i39.tinypic.com/15zlhzr.png

They show the patterns in the stone and the cables wrapping around them, which explains their orientation in the breathe scene. And they can be seen without flycam.

[dreman9999]

balance5050 wrote...

THE KID WAS JUST STANDING THERE MAN, JUST WATCHING AS HIS PLANET WAS BEING DESTROYED!!! If you just stand there and stare at him, he just stares. CREEPY!

Halutionation or not...That can be esialy expline...Think Deer in head lights.

[EpyonX3]

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

The boy is seen running into the room while husks are scaling the walls. Those husks could have been going for the downed gunship.

When you climb down the ladder, there is a second group of husks that scale the builing and run straight at the walls and start clawing. If they wanted Shepard's body damaged enough for indoctrination, they could have all just dog piled him. Instead the ignored him completely.

You do know that'sCommader  Shepard, right? Even the reaper know sending common Husk at him/her would never work.

Doesn't seem to stop them from sending them throughout the entire game does it?

Also, you're agreeing that the husks were after the child then, since shepard is a much bigger threat than a child right?

[EpyonX3]

dreman9999 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

THE KID WAS JUST STANDING THERE MAN, JUST WATCHING AS HIS PLANET WAS BEING DESTROYED!!! If you just stand there and stare at him, he just stares. CREEPY!

Halutionation or not...That can be esialy expline...Think Deer in head lights.

Or even better, think A Trigger in the game that makes sure he moves only when you get to a certain part. Bioware wants you to see him run in to explain why the husks were not after you, just so that new players can get used to the controls.

[EpyonX3]

dreman9999 wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

When did the husk see the kid?

When you stepped on the trigger.



Skip to 9:42

[dreman9999]

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

When did the husk see the kid?

When you stepped on the trigger.



Skip to 9:42

How can I explain this.....

There 2 buildings...Let's call the one the Shepard was first on Building A and the build the kidis on Building B....

On Building A, we see husk climbing on it as the kid on build B is running inside. The husk on Building A never stop to go after the kid nor change directs to go after him. If you miss one they climb up and keep going, never to go to building B. The once Shep get's to build B, the husk climb up, way after the kid goes into the building...They would never seen the child.
....
Understand?

[dreman9999]

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Mandalorian9 wrote...

Nauks wrote...

It's hard to keep a civil discussion about I.T. without the knee-jerk "it's fake because it's fake" comments, void of any real counter arguments or analytical thought.

Thank you. I feel the same way. People are free to disprove it if they can, but they mostly revert to these types of comments before coing off as someone who feels superior to any who think the IT is a better ending then what is given to us. There is also a large amount of hate for the theory and those who believe it, and I'm getting tired of hearing these comments.

I at least have been backing up my claims against IT with video evidence, like this one

But I too get the dismissive comments even though it's there in plain sight. The negativity goes both ways unfortunately.

1.You first point ignores that fact that Anderson is a manifest of the part of the mind this not indoctrinated...It in no part has any link to Shepard living or dying, Just his will. And agein, Shep was shot in the arm and is just supporting himself with his only free arm.

2. Your secod point ignores the fact that reaper can indoctriate people via quantam intangalement one they get a connection. Guess what happens in Arrival...
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5vKMfh6gBk

This has been stated in the arrival dlc codex. And before you can talk about the kid in the vents, please prove that his is real, first.
And one last thing...No one is say the reaper growl is in Shepards head.
3.And your last point...



Let's just say that it may not be what you think it is....

Wow. So many things wrong with this.

1) Let's stop calling things fact here because I really don't think you know what it means. Even some hard core theorists would admit that most of IT is speculation. You call the Anderson link a fact, I show evidence suggesting otherwise, yet I'm ignoring it? What kind of logic is that?

2) Holy Moly that's another new one! If reapers are capable of indoctrinating from long range without being in contact with the individual, why the hell didn't they just indoctrinate the galaxy and prevent synthetics from being created in the first place? They didn't even have to invade at that point. Also, where in the ME universe is this described?

3)Rebar again? I find it funny how the rebar here looks completely different than the cables at the end and they're both CG scenes. I'm not getting into this for 50th time. I'll just post the pics you ignored on system wars and made you run from that thread.

http://i43.tinypic.com/34f8g.png

http://i39.tinypic.com/15zlhzr.png

They show the patterns in the stone and the cables wrapping around them, which explains their orientation in the breathe scene. And they can be seen without flycam.

1.The comment  on fact is not saying the theory is true, Just that your ignoring what is stated by the theory....When has it even been stated that if a manafest of you mind dies, you die. It's an avitar of a state of though in your mind, it dying would not kill Shepard or anyone.It like say killing the manifest of all the horny thoughts in you mind will kill you......It's just a phlisofical representative aka in Sheps head based on the theory. You question why it die does kill Anderson make it clear you don't understand what it is.
2.Note, I said a connection via quantum intagalment has to be made. How does one do that with every organic in exsistance if you have to have contact first and you are in dark space. My point is they made the quantum intagalment connection in the arrival dlc when Shepard got in contact with the reaper artifact. That is how they send commands to their agents and reaper forces.
3.Please, the so call wire in the breath scene easilly can be rebars....Which is my point.

Modifié par dreman9999, 14 avril 2012 - 04:33 .

[EpyonX3]

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

When did the husk see the kid?

When you stepped on the trigger.



Skip to 9:42

How can I explain this.....

There 2 buildings...Let's call the one the Shepard was first on Building A and the build the kidis on Building B....

On Building A, we see husk climbing on it as the kid on build B is running inside. The husk on Building A never stop to go after the kid nor change directs to go after him. If you miss one they climb up and keep going, never to go to building B. The once Shep get's to build B, the husk climb up, way after the kid goes into the building...They would never seen the child.
....
Understand?

If you take you're time to get down there like the video poster did then that would make sense. However, bioware didn't intend for the player to stand there for that long of a period. If you play normally and spot the child the husks come up sooner. The husks are set by other triggers. This is how a game runs.

[dreman9999]

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

dreman9999 wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

The Protheans wrote...

rachellouise wrote...

There are two different groups of husks. One group runs up the walls, and off across the rooftops. The second group climb up to the area the building is on. You are not actually on that small area (area around/outside the door), when they start climbing up. You run out of ammo around this point, and have to use melee. The husks continue to ignore you, and bang and scratch at the building. How do you figure they are after anything other than who is in that building?

No one is shown in that buidling, the fact that they ignore two humans speaks for itself.
I suspect they had only one thing on their mind and that was getting to the two guys who crashed the gunship.

What do you mean? The kid was shown going into that building.

When did the husk see the kid?

When you stepped on the trigger.



Skip to 9:42

How can I explain this.....

There 2 buildings...Let's call the one the Shepard was first on Building A and the build the kidis on Building B....

On Building A, we see husk climbing on it as the kid on build B is running inside. The husk on Building A never stop to go after the kid nor change directs to go after him. If you miss one they climb up and keep going, never to go to building B. The once Shep get's to build B, the husk climb up, way after the kid goes into the building...They would never seen the child.
....
Understand?

If you take you're time to get down there like the video poster did then that would make sense. However, bioware didn't intend for the player to stand there for that long of a period. If you play normally and spot the child the husks come up sooner. The husks are set by other triggers. This is how a game runs.

What are you taking about?...The kids in the build before I get to the ladder even if I rush. The husk will still never see him. Also, that  part was never made for someone to stand there for some time. It just there to teach shoting, the Kid is inside well be fore you finish.

Modifié par dreman9999, 14 avril 2012 - 04:31 .

[balance5050]

Don't forget this:

In the previous cycle there was a "splinter group" who "sabotaged the crucible plans" because they "believed they could CONTROL the reapers". They were actually indoctrinated, sound familiar?

[rachellouise]

balance5050 wrote...

Don't forget this:

In the previous cycle there was a "splinter group" who "sabotaged the crucible plans" because they "believed they could CONTROL the reapers". They were actually indoctrinated, sound familiar?

What's that got to do with IT? :/

[dreman9999]

rachellouise wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Don't forget this:

In the previous cycle there was a "splinter group" who "sabotaged the crucible plans" because they "believed they could CONTROL the reapers". They were actually indoctrinated, sound familiar?

What's that got to do with IT? :/

I got everything to do with IT. What are the options the star child offers you? What is IT stating the reapers are trying to do to you?

[rachellouise]

I don't understand, if you were on that ledge, and looked, there would be nowhere else for the kid to go, except into that building. If he had attempted to climb up across anything, you would still be able to see him. Assuming husks look/see.

[balance5050]

rachellouise wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Don't forget this:

In the previous cycle there was a "splinter group" who "sabotaged the crucible plans" because they "believed they could CONTROL the reapers". They were actually indoctrinated, sound familiar?

What's that got to do with IT? :/

LOL! oh wait.. you were serious.