why r ****** still buying MW3 modern gay****stupid 3wayslyguy200 wrote...
Dude, it is way to early, but either way GOTY will go to Halo 4.bleachorange wrote...
Tazzmission wrote...
goty confirmed imo
The NPD Group has revealed the top ten best selling games in the United States for the month of March.
The best selling titles of the month, in order, are:
1. Mass Effect 3 (360, PS3, PC)**
2. Resident Evil: Operation Raccoon City (360, PS3)**
3. MLB 12: The Show (PS3, Vita)
4. NBA 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, PSP, PC, PS2)
5. SSX (360, PS3)
6. Street Fighter x Tekken (360, PS3)**
7. Mario Party 9 (Wii)
8. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 (360, PS3, Wii, PC)**
9. Naruto Shippuden: Ultimate Ninja Storm Generations(360, PS3)
10. Major League Baseball 2K12 (360, PS3, Wii, NDS, PSP, PC, PS2)
http://games.ign.com.../1222926p1.html
It's a bit early yet.:bandit:Why don't you wait until August at the very least? Saying it's all wrapped up 1/3 of the way through smacks of politicking.
NPD: Mass Effect 3 Tops Charts
#101
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:56
#102
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 01:03
hex23 wrote...
kbct wrote...
Obviously. They're estimates. But NPD is more highly regarded. That's why Aaron Greenberg from Microsoft quoted NPD estimates - not VGC estimates which were higher and released eariler.
Neither is "highly regarded". One is slightly less inaccurate. To put it into perspective NPD just started counting sales from Wal-Mart in February of this year. Keep in mind Wal-Mart is the biggest retailer in America, and it was never even taken into account until less than 2 months ago. Nor do they count digital sales from anywhere.
This is why threads like this are retarded. People are arguing over guesses. Educated guesses, but guesses nonetheless.
Fine, one is preferred. Companies usually quote from NPD. Microsoft is no exception.
Plus, you can adjust for Walmart and digital sales. Here is one guy in the industry saying you have to add a certain percentage because of Walmart:
"I work at a Videogame publisher and we definitely trust NPD more. Most people think NPD tends to under-report by at least 10% because their multiplier for Wal-Mart has a tendency to be off at the SKU level. VGChartz, on the other hand, is often referred to at the "Dirty Data" and people joke that the "data doesn't care where it came from."
I understand if you think these threads are retarded. But it usually goes beyond NPD and VGC to other aspects of the business. It can be fun sometimes - if you like that sort of thing.
#103
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 01:56
Vasarkian wrote...
Just an FYI, TOR has also proven to not be the story-mmo we were promised, and in that regard that's 3 games that have been released with false promises.
*rolls his eyes*
Sure sure. Keep whining.
#104
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 02:05
Father_Jerusalem wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
Just an FYI, TOR has also proven to not be the story-mmo we were promised, and in that regard that's 3 games that have been released with false promises.
*rolls his eyes*
Sure sure. Keep whining.
When the game went gold and before they promised to continual add class-story content and flesh those out.
Now they've gone back on their word and announced that for the next long series of updates and for some time, there will be no class story additions and instead the game will focus on raid-editions with minor story. We're not even going to be getting many FP's. This is the reason I didn't renew.
I'll buy the expansion most likely and subscribe for a month but that seems to be the routine I'll be having with their game from now on. They lied to me, again.
That's 3 strikes BioWare, but I already said I wouldn't be buying any BioWare games anymore and with that said unless they prove otherwise, I won't be buying the expansion either.
#105
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 03:58
1.) Can anyone explain to me why the preferred source of sales estimates, NPD, has estimated ME3 sales in North America (or the US) at 1.3 million and VGC has estimated the North American sales at 2.14 million?
2.) Can anyone remember anything EA said about sales projections for ME3? Were they expecting to match the sales of ME1 and ME2 combined? Something higher? Something lower?
#106
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 01:00

And this is today (which includes an additional week of sales):

Overall, VGC revised global March sales of ME3 down by 460,000 units.
Of course, the revision happened right after NPD released their sales estimates. Almost all the revisions downward in are in North America too.
#107
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 01:37
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Double the sales of the previous title is good, or are you going to start screaming about how it's not good unless it's three times the amount or ten times the amount?
Actually it's an irrelevant comparison.
The only thing mattering is how much profit (if any) EA gets from the product alone.
The cost of producing, distributing and marketing it versus the income they get from the game.
Those are the things that affect wether it was a success.
Things muddying up the waters:
-DLC/booster-pack sales
-Refunds
-Used game market
Looking a the numbers given, the thing I notice is the discrepancy between pc sales and console sales. Did Origin cause this, or is there another factor involved? (For me personally, Origin made me not buy on pc, so I am actually curious about that one)
#108
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 01:42
kbct wrote...
It looks like VGChartz revised DOWN their ME3 sales estimates. This was a couple days ago:
And this is today (which includes an additional week of sales):
Overall, VGC revised global March sales of ME3 down by 460,000 units.
Of course, the revision happened right after NPD released their sales estimates. Almost all the revisions downward in are in North America too.
Does look like ME3's sales dropped off so sharply that the game would no longer fit the formula VGC use.
#109
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:01
#110
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:03
kalle90 wrote...
Operation Raccoon City is 2nd? Lol I would bet that should be a candidate to win the "Worst game of year" award, so no these stats are nothing but paper.
Well I bet people were hyped for a Resident Evil throw back type game, whether they liked what they got is a dif matter entirely.
#111
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:04
kalle90 wrote...
Operation Raccoon City is 2nd? Lol I would bet that should be a candidate to win the "Worst game of year" award, so no these stats are nothing but paper.
It has issues but its far from the worse game of the year. A lot of the flack it gets is for not being Resi 6 if you look around.
#112
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:08
Vasarkian wrote...
kalle90 wrote...
Operation Raccoon City is 2nd? Lol I would bet that should be a candidate to win the "Worst game of year" award, so no these stats are nothing but paper.
Well I bet people were hyped for a Resident Evil throw back type game, whether they liked what they got is a dif matter entirely.
Well it's definately got it's very own faults. But essentially yes it's more a case of being not what people were expecting.
Typical 1 star review.
i have played all the resident evil games and enjoyed them,,this is total rubbish its nothing like the resident evil games that i have played before and believe me i have played them all if this is what the future resident evil games are going to be like ,well thats it i will never play another,it will be selling for a few bob very shortly but even then i wouldn't waste a few bob on it...sheer total rubbish
The term spin-off is lost on some people.
After reading a lot of bad reviews for this game i was worried whether i would be a total waste of money or would satisfy a craving for the zombie killing till re6 comes out .
In my opinion i found the game wasn't like traditional resident evil games and alot of the time found it lacking in the tense camera angles that all the classics had and in my opinion would prefer them back to what has happened since re4.
Pros:
Many weapons and some challenging moments
A small variety of enemies to keep you at bay
Well hidden collectables
Upgradeable abilities
Cons:
Ai team mates useless
Everything takes huge amounts of hits to kill
Bosses insanely powerful
Not enough content to warrant the price
Overall i would say it wasn't a complete waste but they need to give alot of missions in their next dlc to make up for the lack of missions this is from 2plays through so far.
4 star review which takes the game on it's own merits.
Modifié par BobSmith101, 15 avril 2012 - 02:09 .
#113
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:11
BobSmith101 wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
kalle90 wrote...
Operation Raccoon City is 2nd? Lol I would bet that should be a candidate to win the "Worst game of year" award, so no these stats are nothing but paper.
Well I bet people were hyped for a Resident Evil throw back type game, whether they liked what they got is a dif matter entirely.
Well it's definately got it's very own faults. But essentially yes it's more a case of being not what people were expecting.
Typical 1 star review.
i have played all the resident evil games and enjoyed them,,this is total rubbish its nothing like the resident evil games that i have played before and believe me i have played them all if this is what the future resident evil games are going to be like ,well thats it i will never play another,it will be selling for a few bob very shortly but even then i wouldn't waste a few bob on it...sheer total rubbish
The term spin-off is lost on some people.
After reading a lot of bad reviews for this game i was worried whether i would be a total waste of money or would satisfy a craving for the zombie killing till re6 comes out .
In my opinion i found the game wasn't like traditional resident evil games and alot of the time found it lacking in the tense camera angles that all the classics had and in my opinion would prefer them back to what has happened since re4.
Pros:
Many weapons and some challenging moments
A small variety of enemies to keep you at bay
Well hidden collectables
Upgradeable abilities
Cons:
Ai team mates useless
Everything takes huge amounts of hits to kill
Bosses insanely powerful
Not enough content to warrant the price
Overall i would say it wasn't a complete waste but they need to give alot of missions in their next dlc to make up for the lack of missions this is from 2plays through so far.
4 star review which takes the game on it's own merits.
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
#114
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:20
Vasarkian wrote...
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
Always a bit of a double edged sword that. Although it's not like DA2 , it's very clear that ORC is a squad based shooter unless you never bothered to look.
#115
Guest_L00p_*
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:27
Guest_L00p_*
BobSmith101 wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
Always a bit of a double edged sword that. Although it's not like DA2 , it's very clear that ORC is a squad based shooter unless you never bothered to look.
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
#116
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:39
L00p wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
Always a bit of a double edged sword that. Although it's not like DA2 , it's very clear that ORC is a squad based shooter unless you never bothered to look.
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
I think I expected more from reading it in the OXM magazines back when I got them.
#117
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:45
#118
Guest_L00p_*
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:46
Guest_L00p_*
Vasarkian wrote...
L00p wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
Always a bit of a double edged sword that. Although it's not like DA2 , it's very clear that ORC is a squad based shooter unless you never bothered to look.
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
I think I expected more from reading it in the OXM magazines back when I got them.
Maybe the nostalgia from RE2 clouded your judgement? I know I would maybe be a bit biased towards wanting to like it. I'd never again trust any game reviewers opinion for my reason to buy it, though, that's for sure.
#119
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:46
Nanuzsh wrote...
Its been a month and 10 days since release. They shipped 3.5 mil. And still its stuck at 3.5mil. Skyrim sold 10 million in the first 30 days and its still more hardcore than me3. Which is much more casual.
And Skyrim had a terrible story and repetitive gameplay.
#120
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:46
L00p wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
L00p wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
Always a bit of a double edged sword that. Although it's not like DA2 , it's very clear that ORC is a squad based shooter unless you never bothered to look.
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
I think I expected more from reading it in the OXM magazines back when I got them.
Maybe the nostalgia from RE2 clouded your judgement? I know I would maybe be a bit biased towards wanting to like it. I'd never again trust any game reviewers opinion for my reason to buy it, though, that's for sure.
I've never played Resident Evil, I just know about it, so no nostalgia.
#121
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:47
L00p wrote...
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
If you want a squad based shooter where your choices matter you want Binary Domain. Everything you do influences your squad from conversation to combat. Play well and the squad takes a very active role, play poorly (by shooting/insulting them) and they will just leave you to die. Boss fights are something else too.
Even sticking two girls in your squad has one accusing you of being sleezy while the other likes men who are upfront.
#122
Guest_L00p_*
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:52
Guest_L00p_*
Vasarkian wrote...
L00p wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
L00p wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
Vasarkian wrote...
You have to in itself have something of quality to compare a game to so it can be determined if it also has trait sof quality. I have seen no good reviews of the game itself by such comparable qualities. That being said, it should also be realized that tagging on the name of a popular series means that you realize you'll be judged more harshly.
Always a bit of a double edged sword that. Although it's not like DA2 , it's very clear that ORC is a squad based shooter unless you never bothered to look.
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
I think I expected more from reading it in the OXM magazines back when I got them.
Maybe the nostalgia from RE2 clouded your judgement? I know I would maybe be a bit biased towards wanting to like it. I'd never again trust any game reviewers opinion for my reason to buy it, though, that's for sure.
I've never played Resident Evil, I just know about it, so no nostalgia.
I see. It was by far one of my favorite franchises, until college and real life took away most of my time devoted to playing every game I wanted to experience.
#123
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:52
Modifié par cotheer, 15 avril 2012 - 02:53 .
#124
Guest_L00p_*
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 02:53
Guest_L00p_*
BobSmith101 wrote...
L00p wrote...
Almost makes me want to buy it, just because they're actually marketing it correctly. Not like, for example, a game where your choices are supposed to matter. It's pew-pew and if I like pew-pew, I'll buy it. Simple.
If you want a squad based shooter where your choices matter you want Binary Domain. Everything you do influences your squad from conversation to combat. Play well and the squad takes a very active role, play poorly (by shooting/insulting them) and they will just leave you to die. Boss fights are something else too.
Even sticking two girls in your squad has one accusing you of being sleezy while the other likes men who are upfront.
Gently caress me running - that sounds like a ton of awesome.
I'll check it out right away.
#125
Posté 15 avril 2012 - 05:08
BobSmith101 wrote...
Does look like ME3's sales dropped off so sharply that the game would no longer fit the formula VGC use.
I was looking at US Xbox sales on VGC because Xbox has the highest percentage of total sales and doesn't have any digital download unknowns and I was looking in the US because the data can be verified by other sources like NPD.
Sales for ME3 have dropped below sales for ME2:

Sales of ME3 are lower than ME2 for week 3, week 4 , and week 5.





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