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[ushae]

 We've jumped from The Warden (our favourite), to Hawke, and 99% likely to take on another individual in the next game. Does anyone else feel like its a huge immersion breaker 'leapfrogging' between primary characters ? It feels like the series loses its focus and depth it has the potential to achieve.

I mean, exactly which direction is DA going in, or is Bioware winging it as each story comes ?

What do you guys think, should there be continuity in out protagonist, or does switching roles make more sense from a storytelling perspective, a la Song of Ice and Fire style ?

[GodWood]

This was their plan from the very beginning, only the setting was meant to remain a constant.

The only issue I have with it is that they keep ending PC's stories with cliff hangers.

[whykikyouwhy]

I'm fine with a new protagonist per game, because I enjoy playing in the world. Since each game is a sort of chapter in a larger story, it makes sense to me to switch heroes and see that world through their eyes for that specific segment of the narrative. This also allows for a greater span of time to be handled - if, for example, the entire DA series is meant to span 50-60 years in Thedas, sticking with one protagonist would make for a rather elderly PC (which might be interesting, but I think a 70-80 year old adventurer might be hard-pressed to take down a high dragon - not without magical intervention).

I don't think Bioware is "winging it" - they're telling the story of the world, the DA universe. There are significant characters within that story, including the various PCs, but overall, it's a tale that is larger than the scope of what one single protagonist may encounter.

[Maria Caliban]

A different protagonist every game is fine. If anything, it allows you to give more choices to the player, and they never have to make sure you're alive and well in a sequel or retcon the previous game.

[caradoc2000]

Dragon Age is not Mass Effect. It is not one character's story, rather it is a series of tales set in Thedas.

[Servo to the bitter end]

The Warden was the Warden, and I thought s/he was great.

I thought Hawke was great.

They've established a decent track record, as far as I'm concerned. The prospect of playing a new protagonist is exciting, because there's an excellent chance that I'm going to enjoy it.

As far as I'm concerned, the star of the show is Thedas itself. It's such a compelling setting that they can't go too far wrong.

[Maria Caliban]

liesandpropaganda wrote...

Come to think of it, it did work with Ezio, but he's too uncustomizable for people here to be happy

I don't think it 'worked' with Ezio. Assassins' Creed 2 gave him an actual character arc. In Brotherhood, he's the same throughout the game. I assume Revelations is the same.

The Witcher 2 at least has the ongoing metaplot with Yennifer and the Wild Hunt.

[dragonl]

i don`t mid a new main in DA 3 i only hope we get to see more of Thedas. Staing in 1 city gets rader boring seeing the same senery all the time

[Chrumpek]

"part of dragon age is exploring thedas"

Well then it's gonna be hell of a 'games' until we actually explore something if it continue the trend of DA2 in which we explored... one crappy city.

[whykikyouwhy]

I believe that the single city was essential to the overall narrative. In order to highlight the events leading up to the mage-templar conflict, the scope of the game had to focus inward, to the crux of it all - sort of a "hey, look here, because something very important is going to happen."

The devs have already hinted at a broader scope/map for the next game, so I think we'll see a lot of traveling again.

[Chrumpek]

sjpelkessjpeler wrote...

The dragon age is arching a 100 year period.

The best thing for the serie is to have a new main character for every game.

DAO we had the warden
DA2 we had Hawke
DA3 we will have ? (probably a seeker from what I read on the forum)

Who or what the protagonist is is in my opinion not important as long as the story and her/his character is great.

Warden
Champion
Seeker

Hmm that is actually nice, let's hope tho it's shaped like in DAO, instead of some dorf telling it for you.

[berelinde]

I kind of enjoy having different protagonists for each game. I can mix and match, and import a variety of saves. The world state was based on my DA:O save. I have several. Each allowed me to try several different configurations of DA2 protagonist, and explore quests based on whether or not this condition, that condition, or the other was met. Granted, fixed import flags would have helped...

Anyway, the point is that I've played through DA2 about 8 times. I wouldn't have been able to play through more than 2-3 if I had to replay all of DA:O first in order to get there.

Edit: That said, I play on the PC and enjoy the luxury of a saved-game generator. It would be cool if that mechanic was carried forward in DA3 as an introductory world-builder rather than relying on notoriously bugged imports.

Modifié par berelinde, 14 avril 2012 - 05:04 .

[LilyasAvalon]

Definately not. I mean, in DA:O, DA:A and it's DLC, you can play a different warden all the time.

It always PISSED ME OFF when people were demanding the Warden to return in DA2. Dragon Age is NOT a game about the protagionist. Dragon Age is a series about the WORLD.

They TRIED to make Hawke into a protagionist like Shepard, look how well THAT turned out.

[Sharn01]

I prefer new protagonists. It gives the game a fresh feeling and it gives the writers more freedom to finish up stories in a single game. Its to bad that these days finishing up stories is done with DLC rather then actually being a part of the game.

[tankdogg937]

I have to admit I like the new protagonists as well. I enjoy learning about their backstory/family and how they came to be where they are. RPG's are essentially books within a game after all. I'm interested in the storytelling.

I can understand how some may not like it. After all you spend an entire game emotionally invested in your Warden or Hawke and then they vanish. Hopefully there will be some closure to those characters somewhere down the line.

[ChaosAgentLoki]

After getting into RPGs through games such as the Final Fantasy and Tales series, having numerous different protagonists per game is something I'm quite used to (and enjoy). So, having a consistent overall world, yet a revolving collection of protagonists is something I truly approve of.

To the point of Bioware winging it as they go with Dragon Age. I approve of that as well. Unlike Mass Effect where the writers had to make sure that they could work in every itty-bitty little nugget of choice (yes it failed, but the intent was there), Dragon Age is ripe for wild things to happen. Letting the writers and designers just go wild (for the most part) can be a wonderful thing. Sure, the basics of the lore should be adhered to, but that doesn't mean that changes (ones that can be twisted to make sense) aren't important. If the writers' creativity were to be stifled by forcing them along a planned route, I feel like it would end up destroying much of what is enjoyable about these games. That's just me though.

[tankdogg937]

ChaosAgentLoki wrote...

After getting into RPGs through games such as the Final Fantasy and Tales series, having numerous different protagonists per game is something I'm quite used to (and enjoy). So, having a consistent overall world, yet a revolving collection of protagonists is something I truly approve of.

To the point of Bioware winging it as they go with Dragon Age. I approve of that as well. Unlike Mass Effect where the writers had to make sure that they could work in every itty-bitty little nugget of choice (yes it failed, but the intent was there), Dragon Age is ripe for wild things to happen. Letting the writers and designers just go wild (for the most part) can be a wonderful thing. Sure, the basics of the lore should be adhered to, but that doesn't mean that changes (ones that can be twisted to make sense) aren't important. If the writers' creativity were to be stifled by forcing them along a planned route, I feel like it would end up destroying much of what is enjoyable about these games. That's just me though.

THIS

Creative genius is usually the result of imagination and not some planned script.

[Mad...White...Ham]

... i want the warden back

[Arppis]

It might actualy be better to have this. They could make the decissions bigger, because you know you won't play the character again. This is the potential.

[Wulfram]

Different protagonist is fine, but they need to work on how they leave things with the old ones.

I'm also of the opinion that they should consider whether it's worth messing around with imports if you're not carrying the PC forward.

[HairyMadDog1010]

I enjoy different protagonists, however I hope 3 will tie up the lose ends with our Wardens and Hawke. If they don't and we get another (insert name here) dissapered and was never heard from agin, I may start to lose intrest in the games.