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[GBJ13]

I'm starting to wonder if the OP is engaging in some form of performance art....

[christrek1982]

CronoDragoon wrote...

Not ME3 story or campaign related, since we got neither.

this and I'm 29 I don't mind not having a boss at the end and I know that there was no way bio created "my"
perfect ending but I at least thaught one of them would be in the ball park of somthing I felt was a good ending not but insted we got pointless and depressing. oh well.

[CroGamer002]

Eh, we can have both of those things.

There's no rule saying "you can't have a boss fight in thought provoking endings!".

[spartan5127]

At first your antics were entertaining. Now they are predictable and boring. Please try harder next time.

[Ericus]

Mesina2 wrote...

Eh, we can have both of those things.

There's no rule saying "you can't have a boss fight in thought provoking endings!".

Very true.  But I would be disappointed if Bioware had given us a straight-up fight with Harbinger at the end of the game.  Shepard struggled to take out a couple of the small Reapers, and that's already quite an achievement.  Fighting Harbinger head-on... well we did actually get to see how that worked out during the run for the beam.  Not good.  But, an encounter with Harbinger at the end where Shepard was able to trap / outsmart Harbinger in some highly inventive way would have been pretty satisfying.

[Skull Bearer]

Taboo-XX wrote...

Go watch Solaris and Stalker. Then come back.

Oh man, do I ever love Stalker, one of the best films of all time.

[Mixorz]

I agree and applaud TC. You can see this ADD generation already affecting ME3 with action mode. People don't want Martin Scorcece and prefer Michael Bay. Well ME gave us a deep and thought-provoking end. Too bad most people seem to have not payed attention to key dialogue and totally misunderstand the depth of the Catalyst.

[AxisEvolve]

Mixorz wrote...

I agree and applaud TC. You can see this ADD generation already affecting ME3 with action mode. People don't want Martin Scorcece and prefer Michael Bay. Well ME gave us a deep and thought-provoking end. Too bad most people seem to have not payed attention to key dialogue and totally misunderstand the depth of the Catalyst.

Hahahahaha. 

[FatalX7.0]

Oh, it's Luzer again.

[fayt002]

I am 32 and think that ending was awful. I like endings that i don't have to try to think whats in the creators head.

[III_wAR]

Luzarius wrote...

Am I right or wrong?

I believe Bioware is choosing NOT to cater to the MTV generation of "kids" who are 13-25.  Instead Bioware is choosing to cater to their more mature audience and striving to push the limits of todays youth.

Bioware i respect you for this.  Most Bioware writers are probably over the age of 28 right? 

My challenge to the young generation of ME players is this.  Try to think like a mature adult instead of a silly kid wanting a boss fight at the end of the game.  I say this with the deepest respect possible since the youth have to carry the torch. Consider your limits pushed.

If I come off arrogant then I apologize in advance.

Luzarius
"no death ruleset"

So was Edi's ****** for the "MTV generation kids" or the "cultured mature adults"?

Modifié par III_wAR, 14 avril 2012 - 08:27 .

[Iwillbeback]

What is wrong with you people?
The original post is trolling pro-enders and I find it funny.

[Kyle Kabanya]

I agree with the OP even though I'm only 19. Its a mature game, so make the ending for adults. I didn't mind the ensings of ME3 its just the plot and cutscene holes along with the relays being destroyed.

I'm not asking for the super happy ending but I would like one where shep and his/her LI make it out together. Something to make surviving the attack worthwild. That's all people think about during war, being with the people they love in the end.

[Ryven]

I agree with you 100 percent OP.

Off topic, I was wondering you would be interested in purchasing some new clothes OP. Only worn once. By an emperor even!

[die-yng]

Luzarius wrote...

Am I right or wrong?

I believe Bioware is choosing NOT to cater to the MTV generation of "kids" who are 13-25.  Instead Bioware is choosing to cater to their more mature audience and striving to push the limits of todays youth.

Bioware i respect you for this.  Most Bioware writers are probably over the age of 28 right? 

My challenge to the young generation of ME players is this.  Try to think like a mature adult instead of a silly kid wanting a boss fight at the end of the game.  I say this with the deepest respect possible since the youth have to carry the torch. Consider your limits pushed.

If I come off arrogant then I apologize in advance.

Luzarius
"no death ruleset"

Hilarious.
To be as arrogant and condescending as most people who try to defend the ending:
Only if you have some brains in your skull and are not a blind follower of every dish of entertainment you are offered, can you see how flawed and failed that ending is.
Many intelligent and educated people have expressed their dislike of the ending and have explained in detail why they do dislike it, if you were open enough to actually look into their reasoning instead of dismissing criticism of the ending as whining by the MTV generation, you might actually see this.
The ending is weak in narrative, in logic, in keeping the tone and direction of the trilogy and even the design of it looks cheap and hastily cobbled together.

I have read fiction by, Huxley, Orwell, Bradbury, Aldiss, Brunner and many others of the more demanding and sophisticated Science-Fiction writers, along with Goethe, Schiller, Nietzsche, Rosseau, Thomas Mann, Tennesse Wiliams, John Updike, Poe, Dickens...
I've read thousands of books, I watched tons of movies, from small, brainy indie flics to Hollywood blockbusters and with all this as reference material, I tell you that the ending to Mass Effect 3 sucks. It sucks badly.
It is a horribly unfulfilling, narrative breaking ending that clearly shows it's poor conception and creation from a few lines of scribbles on a piece of paper.

Yes, kids like Boss fights, but gamers in general also like boss fights AND even more important
, criticism of the ending only marginally has to do with having a bossfight or not, but way more with inconsistencies, screaming plotholes and a case of fairly poor executed deus ex machina.

Modifié par die-yng, 14 avril 2012 - 08:44 .

[StarGateGod]

Iwillbeback wrote...

What is wrong with you people?
The original post is trolling pro-enders and I find it funny.

I watched the OP finish the game, and listened to his rxn to it, he supports the ending, how is he trolling pro enders

[NoPantsToday]

This is an incredibly shortsighted way of looking at games. It all depends on what kind of game you're playing. I personally didn't care if Mass Effect 3 had a boss, I just wanted a coherent ending.

[Gterror2]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

I just want Harbinger to get a CONVERSATION at least.

[NoPantsToday]

III_wAR wrote...

Luzarius wrote...

Am I right or wrong?

I believe Bioware is choosing NOT to cater to the MTV generation of "kids" who are 13-25.  Instead Bioware is choosing to cater to their more mature audience and striving to push the limits of todays youth.

Bioware i respect you for this.  Most Bioware writers are probably over the age of 28 right? 

My challenge to the young generation of ME players is this.  Try to think like a mature adult instead of a silly kid wanting a boss fight at the end of the game.  I say this with the deepest respect possible since the youth have to carry the torch. Consider your limits pushed.

If I come off arrogant then I apologize in advance.

Luzarius
"no death ruleset"

So was Edi's ****** for the "MTV generation kids" or the "cultured mature adults"?

lol checkmate.

[The Milky Waver]

 I'd like a boss fight, but I don't really want one. I just want more Harbinger, and an option to call the ghost busters when I meet the Catalyst.

Modifié par The Milky Waver, 14 avril 2012 - 08:37 .

[nitefyre410]

die-yng wrote...

Luzarius wrote...

Am I right or wrong?

I believe Bioware is choosing NOT to cater to the MTV generation of "kids" who are 13-25.  Instead Bioware is choosing to cater to their more mature audience and striving to push the limits of todays youth.

Bioware i respect you for this.  Most Bioware writers are probably over the age of 28 right? 

My challenge to the young generation of ME players is this.  Try to think like a mature adult instead of a silly kid wanting a boss fight at the end of the game.  I say this with the deepest respect possible since the youth have to carry the torch. Consider your limits pushed.

If I come off arrogant then I apologize in advance.

Luzarius
"no death ruleset"

Hilarious.
To be as arrogant and condescending as most people who try to defend the ending:
Only if you have some brains in your skull and are not a blind follower of every dish of entertainment you are offered, can you see how flawed and failed that ending is.
Many intelligent and educated people have expressed their dislike of the ending and have explained in detail why they do so, if you were open enough to actually look into their reasoning instead of dismissing criticism of the ending as whining by the MTV generation.
The ending is weak in narrative, in logic, in keeping the tone and direction of the trilogy and even the design of it looks cheap and hastily cobbled together.

I have read fiction by, Huxley, Orwell, Bradbury, Aldiss, Brunner and many others of the more demanding and sophisticated Science-Fiction writers, along with Goethe, Schiller, Nietzsche, Rosseau, Thomas Mann, Tennesse Wiliams, John Updike, Poe, Dickens...
I've read thousands of books, I watched tons of movies, from small, brainy indie flics to Hollywood blockbusters and with all this as reference material, I tell you that the ending to Mass Effect 3 sucks. It sucks badly. It is a horrible unfulfilling, narratuve breaking ending that clearly shows it's poor conception and creation from a few lines of scribbles on a pice of paper.

Yes, kids like Boss fights, but gamers in general also like boss fights AND even more important
;criticism with the ending only marginally has to do with having a bossfight or not, but way more with inconsistencies, screaming plotholes and a case of fairly poor executed deus ex machina.

 

I will do this for your sir..

/thread

[TookYoCookies]

Luzarius; you are f*cking bat sh*t crazy.. If ME3's ending was supposed to cater to people who think like you, then i think the majority of the fanbase has yet to smoke enough crack to understand where they were coming from.