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Now that ME's crapped out, what the greatest sci-fi video game saga?


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And then go play kotor 2, but make sure u get the fan mods that add in the missing content and fix the bugs....kotor 2 really was a great game, a shame lucas arts didnt care about art and allow iit to be finished. Kreia is one of the best characters ive ever seen in a game.


I actually really prefer KOTOR 2's writing as well.  I'm super stoked that Chris Avellone is a part of the Wasteland 2 project!  Kreia is amazing.  As far as I'm concerned pretty much anything MCA touches turns to gold.

It's just unfortunate that the ending seems to be... missing :


I hereby ORDER you to download the Restauration mod wich repairs everything in the game, frome the sh*tload of bugs to the story points (HK factory, crew on Malacor, Little robot vs G0T0, Visas vs Handmaiden or Atton vs Mical, etc) You'll then realise how great this game is!

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 Free Space & Free Space 2.  Freespace 2 is considered to be the finest example of a now pretty much dead genre - space combat sims.  But it was very intuative to play, and was pretty epic with huuuuge capital ships duking it out as waves of bombers and fighters darted between them.  It was also a master piece in both story telling and setting up atmosphere.  Free Space still has one of the best cinematics on painting a "We're boned" introduction to the series, and introduces the main bad guys - The Shivains - in a way that makes the Reapers look like amatures. No, really.  The Shivians would show the Repears a thing or two about how to wipe our civilisations.  

Anyone play Freespace 2 and remember the savage joy of watching the Colossus take out the Shivan Juggurnaut, and there's the savage joy of having taken out the Shivans capital ship, only to have the carpet ripped out from under you when it turns out there's hundreds of them?  That was followed by the realisation at just how unbeatable the Shivians were.  There was no 'crucible' super weapon, only the desperate attempt to collapse the Capella jump portal which resulted in most of the good guys fleet being wiped out, including the loss of the Colossus.  Hell, I remember watching in muteted horror as she went down fighting, because Interplay did such a damned good job in building up how the Colossus your best hope against the Shivians, and she felt like it.   


good i loved that game pitty there was FS3


I don't know.  By there not being a FS3 they haven't fallen into the same trap as ME3, and we're saved from having a beloved series ruined by bad plotting.  At least the ending offered some closure.  Heck, I admit I had a lump in the throat as they did the M.I.A ending.  It truly felt like you'd been to hell and back in both games, with the whole war reeking of desperation as the GTA and Versudians tried their best to just slow the Shivans down.  In my minds eye it's how ME3 should have felt. 

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[space: above and beyond was my all time favourite and the best example for flaming your best franchise.  it is as if these people are scared stiff of making a realistic and intelligent futuristic masterpiece. and of course as soon as they collect a reward, they seem to think they made it and loose interest in continuenty.

i also have fond memories of deep space nine.  less fond memories of psycological clap trap episodes.


Aaah finally someone else remembered. SAAB wasn't exactly 100 percent realistic but it had some damn good episodes and not least it was badass. :)

DS9: Hmm definately my favorite series of that franchise but offcourse with a gazillion episodes not all can be good.

well, realistic within reason in terms of fantasie made up in tv terms, after all there is the element of control that one hasn't got in real life...but you knew that of course.  i actually went ahead and bought the dvd set from amazon, seeing it didn't get any re-runs ... come to think of it, there arn't many repeats of all my favourite sci-fi programs these days, it's all the so called reality shows (reality!!!! my foot....) 

Modifié par JulyAyon, 14 avril 2012 - 05:26 .


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My hope is now Mechwarrior Online. I just hope will be as entertaining the old BattleTech papers/pencil game. I haven't followed it sense Catalyst but out from FASA. I'm hoping they will get it back on track.

I enjoyed the Halo backstory but I found the gameplay way too cartoony for me and the game has always been a mulitplayer platform anyway.

I would love to see a Babylon 5 game made that takes place after the series ended.  Maybe get to play as a Ranger.

Of course if Bioware could salvage the ME universe I would try revisting it if the Extended cut can give me a satified ending. But I doubt it.

Modifié par MentalKase, 14 avril 2012 - 05:47 .


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CDPRs SciFi RPG.

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MentalKase wrote...

My hope is now Mechwarrior Online. I just hope will be as entertaining the old BattleTech papers/pencil game. I haven't followed it sense Catalyst but out from FASA. I'm hoping they will get it back on track.

Of course if Bioware could salvage the ME universe I would try revisting it if the Extended cut can't give me a satified ending. But I doubt it.



I haven't followed the Battletech universe since the end they destroyed Clan Smoke Jaguar.  No, I lie...I think I got as far as the Federated Commonwealth civil war. 

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CDPRs SciFi RPG.


do they have one or is this wishful thinking

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Fallout, Half Life. Can't think of any others really off the bat. Halo is alright but...not all that great.

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LeTtotheC wrote...

MentalKase wrote...

My hope is now Mechwarrior Online. I just hope will be as entertaining the old BattleTech papers/pencil game. I haven't followed it sense Catalyst but out from FASA. I'm hoping they will get it back on track.

Of course if Bioware could salvage the ME universe I would try revisting it if the Extended cut can't give me a satified ending. But I doubt it.



I haven't followed the Battletech universe since the end they destroyed Clan Smoke Jaguar.  No, I lie...I think I got as far as the Federated Commonwealth civil war. 


Yeah that is about as far as FASA took the franchise. 

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Catroi wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

And then go play kotor 2, but make sure u get the fan mods that add in the missing content and fix the bugs....kotor 2 really was a great game, a shame lucas arts didnt care about art and allow iit to be finished. Kreia is one of the best characters ive ever seen in a game.


I actually really prefer KOTOR 2's writing as well.  I'm super stoked that Chris Avellone is a part of the Wasteland 2 project!  Kreia is amazing.  As far as I'm concerned pretty much anything MCA touches turns to gold.

It's just unfortunate that the ending seems to be... missing :


I hereby ORDER you to download the Restauration mod wich repairs everything in the game, frome the sh*tload of bugs to the story points (HK factory, crew on Malacor, Little robot vs G0T0, Visas vs Handmaiden or Atton vs Mical, etc) You'll then realise how great this game is!


What?! 

So uh, I just buy the physical copy of KOTOR 2 from Amazon then? :lol:

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CronoDragoon wrote...

Catroi wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

And then go play kotor 2, but make sure u get the fan mods that add in the missing content and fix the bugs....kotor 2 really was a great game, a shame lucas arts didnt care about art and allow iit to be finished. Kreia is one of the best characters ive ever seen in a game.


I actually really prefer KOTOR 2's writing as well.  I'm super stoked that Chris Avellone is a part of the Wasteland 2 project!  Kreia is amazing.  As far as I'm concerned pretty much anything MCA touches turns to gold.

It's just unfortunate that the ending seems to be... missing :


I hereby ORDER you to download the Restauration mod wich repairs everything in the game, frome the sh*tload of bugs to the story points (HK factory, crew on Malacor, Little robot vs G0T0, Visas vs Handmaiden or Atton vs Mical, etc) You'll then realise how great this game is!


What?! 

So uh, I just buy the physical copy of KOTOR 2 from Amazon then? :lol:


Is this for the PC only? Becuase I have XOTOR2 for XBOX.

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its still Mass Effect for me dispite the ending.

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MentalKase wrote...

CronoDragoon wrote...

Catroi wrote...

Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

And then go play kotor 2, but make sure u get the fan mods that add in the missing content and fix the bugs....kotor 2 really was a great game, a shame lucas arts didnt care about art and allow iit to be finished. Kreia is one of the best characters ive ever seen in a game.


I actually really prefer KOTOR 2's writing as well.  I'm super stoked that Chris Avellone is a part of the Wasteland 2 project!  Kreia is amazing.  As far as I'm concerned pretty much anything MCA touches turns to gold.

It's just unfortunate that the ending seems to be... missing :


I hereby ORDER you to download the Restauration mod wich repairs everything in the game, frome the sh*tload of bugs to the story points (HK factory, crew on Malacor, Little robot vs G0T0, Visas vs Handmaiden or Atton vs Mical, etc) You'll then realise how great this game is!


What?! 

So uh, I just buy the physical copy of KOTOR 2 from Amazon then? :lol:


Is this for the PC only? Becuase I have XOTOR2 for XBOX.




Yes. You cannot mod console games.

Modifié par MaaZeus, 14 avril 2012 - 06:21 .


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Allan Schumacher wrote...

Dendio1 wrote...

And then go play kotor 2, but make sure u get the fan mods that add in the missing content and fix the bugs....kotor 2 really was a great game, a shame lucas arts didnt care about art and allow iit to be finished. Kreia is one of the best characters ive ever seen in a game.


I actually really prefer KOTOR 2's writing as well.  I'm super stoked that Chris Avellone is a part of the Wasteland 2 project!  Kreia is amazing.  As far as I'm concerned pretty much anything MCA touches turns to gold.

It's just unfortunate that the ending seems to be... missing :


I know what you mean. I felt the same with Mass Effect 3. 

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MentalKase wrote...

My hope is now Mechwarrior Online. I just hope will be as entertaining the old BattleTech papers/pencil game. I haven't followed it sense Catalyst but out from FASA. I'm hoping they will get it back on track.

I enjoyed the Halo backstory but I found the gameplay way too cartoony for me and the game has always been a mulitplayer platform anyway.

I would love to see a Babylon 5 game made that takes place after the series ended.  Maybe get to play as a Ranger.

Of course if Bioware could salvage the ME universe I would try revisting it if the Extended cut can give me a satified ending. But I doubt it.


Have you seen Mechwarrior Tactics is another game being made and it is practically the P&P game!

Heres the link - www.mwtactics.com/

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Impossible to say which is the greatest sci-fi video game/series, because that's a pretty big genre. There are many hybrids and subgenres within sci-fi which make games & franchises good and enjoyable for different reasons. Even if ME3 had concluded the series satisfactorily, I still (probably) wouldn't have said it's the greatest. Within the space opera/epic subgenre? I would say so.

What makes the ME series so good and stand out from the rest is the story, the universe, and the characters. Without those, it's just a generic if not flat out mediocre shooter with rpg elements. It's just a damn shame messed up the most important aspect of the series when it mattered the most.

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Xenosaga 1-3

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Even with ME3s ending, there is no sci-fi universe better than ME, except Star Wars.


Star Wars is a nice fairytale. Good to watch as a movie. Mass Effect is much more engaging and believable. Halo is the only other franchise I like so much. Even Star Trek feels sometimes like a thing of the past.

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For my comment we have to cover a few of the basics.

Halo - While personally I greatly loved the first game and ODST the others just became simpler shooters. The game seemed to lose some of the difficulty, not sure if this is due to them making it easier or just myself getting used to playing the game with my toes. None the less a game I can go through on the hardest difficulty with my feet doesn't speak much to it's own merit. Halo had a nice story progression but we have some interesting flaws cause by the games outside the core 3. None the less a rich content of books, militant like fan base, and causing tea-bagging on a world wide scale has caused many, young to almost middle-aged alike, to call this one of the greatest franchises. This being said I feel that they didn't bring enough challenge to the players in the campaign so this while deserving mention, doesn't win my vote.

Fallout - I remember playing the original title before I could properly grasp what is was I was doing. All I knew is I loved stacking the sniper perk about 4 times and shooting every in the eyes and laughing extra hard if while blind they happened to shoot and kill someone for me. I would raid everything because I felt that everything in the game lawfully belonged to me since I was the only thing capable of free will. As I got older and continued to play I realized that there was a rich story to be gained by not treating everything in the game as "walking treasure chests of happy fun-time and bewilderment" but instead to truly immerse yourself into. both Fallout and Fallout 2 had a wonderfully rich experience to behold with no real direction you "had" to follow. Half of the fun of it was what you could come across in random encounters with the occasional more fan serviced encounters such as the "Smite the Lamer" riot where a whole collection of people ran up to beat the tar out of a man only speaking in "L337" or even the reenacting of the bridge-keeper scene from Monty Python and the Holy Grail where instead of a fall to the bottom of the chasm, a gruesome death by Gatling gun awaited the one who answered wrong. As the serious improved in graphics it lost some of that freedom and random moments of fun to take a more serious tone with Fallout Tactics. While game play improved it sacrificed the ability to take things in your own way of going through the game and regrettable this style carried on to the Xbox 360 titles. I feel Fallout had a more fulfilling experience when every aspect of the game was up to you on how and when you did it. The conversion of this environment into a 3D world was still a wonderful transformation where there was many things to do to the side but there was that always overwhelming feeling of your "main quest" trying to hold your hand and make sure you don't get lost in the woods because we don't want people without a sense of "whats next".

Half-Life - It's hard to review something that opened my eyes to such a well done and dynamic experience. No matter where you are in the story, you feel compelled to the very end to push forward. Not because you have to, this is an action of want. Half-Life gave people like me the ability to read a good book without looking at too many words in a row and getting sleepy, not to mention John Woo always had your back with some well times hand grenades to, everyone's favorite video game tool, red explosive barrels. In real life you look at one and think . . . "I wonder how this would look if it exploded." For video games there was no wonder. We would often challenge ourselves to see how much destruction we could cause, from kills to domino effect, we will always have a fond place in our hearts for them. But ultimately Half-Life can be easily considered great in my book for the fact of it's relevance to modern society. This is something most of us have though about as a real feasible outcome. Not to an exact recreation but our own fantasies each let us see what we want. Because of that I feel that we can relate more to Gordon and his vigilante, crowbar-wielding ways. I am sure I am not along in giving this one high praise.

Starcraft - This alone could get hours of attention but when it's not an original idea it just seems to be lost to me. I give the game-play a solid 9 but every time I look at the terrains I see less impressive SPACE MARINES! which will bring us into the final point of my rant.

Space Marine - It only took 24 years to finally get a decent shooter out if the series. The campaign well constructed with some fantastic over to top moment from the beginning till end. It was a wonderful joy ride to behold and had a smile on my face for almost all of it. *personal note: the only other emotion displayed was RAGE!!!* With it's incredible rich lore and almost 25 years of books, this series has the most invested time out of any other. The main thing holding it back is it's poor net coding for multiplayer. I would have to give it 2nd place in the Sci-Fi category.

In my opinion Half-Life gives me the best there is to offer while still maintaining a reasonable connection to our current world.

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In my opinion:
Halo: great music, solid background, decent gameplay, poor characters.
Overall: 3/5
Gears of War: Testosterone poisoning, ludicrous characterization, schizophrenic emotional shifts, great combat
Overall: 4/5
KotOR: Great characters, great story, new take on an old setting, decent gameplay.
Overall: 5/5
KotOR 2: Great characters, great story, more bugs than the moon has craters, potential for being better than KotOR brought low by the game just not being finished, which is even worse than if it had been a continuously bad game where I wouldn't have set my expectations so high
Overall: 2/5

I can't really comment on how good the Mass Effect series was, because they are still making the 'Extended Cut' DLC. But up until the ending of Mass Effect 3, the series easily blew all the others out of the water. Really just a great series until the terrible ending.

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Still Mass Effect for me, by quite a wide margin, although I would love to see a CRPG set in a sci-fi universe kinda like Reynold's Revelation Space setting.

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SPESS MERHEN was great, though I was raging that I couldn't do my army scheme. I wish they had put in mk3 crusader helmets, wrist mount storm bolters, and force weapons. Then that would've been the perfect spess merhen game.

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GlassElephant wrote...

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pomrink wrote...

CHANGING MY VOTE. Fallout.


Definitely Fallout. 


Same for me.  Fallout.


Yes yes. Fallout for sure.

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The best one is still Mass Effect, even with the worst ending ever. I never liked SW or anything else with sci-fi theme, but Mass Effect changed my mind about it, it have such a rich universe full of things to discover that it's almost impossible to not like and become a" sci-fi nerd" after playing it.

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I think the OP's brain has crapped out. Mass Effect is still the king and by a wide margin.