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[Icemix]

AJRimmsey wrote...
i cannot answer that until i see the extended dlc or if theres an ME 4.

i could guess or speculate,but then i run the risk of ridicule if i was wrong.

Point proven. They promissed an end to Shepard's story, yet you don't know what happens to him in 2 out 3 possible outcomes. False advertisement and bad writing are obvious, and you still stand by this "ending". It is obviously a thing I can not comprehend.

[mmm buddah23]

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

[Echo_V]

I'm glad you enjoyed it

[AJRimmsey]

mmm buddah23 wrote...

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

i understand that.

but am also sort of glad for less as i always try every ending if theres a variety,and 16 would have been a real pain in the harris to go through.

i was kinda bored and tempted to youtube the third time even.

[mmm buddah23]

AJRimmsey wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

i understand that.

but am also sort of glad for less as i always try every ending if theres a variety,and 16 would have been a real pain in the harris to go through.

i was kinda bored and tempted to youtube the third time even.

I just used the auto save you get when you arrive on the citadel and viewed all three. Im lazy, but at the same time, I have 3 characters, on neutral engineer (green ending) one renegade soldier (red ending), and one paragon adept (soon to be blue ending). I don tthink there should have been sixteeen options at the end where the star child goes on for an hour saying your options, I think 4 options should be available to you depending on what you chose to do over the course of 3 games, and of course, for people that did not play the 3 games, three is just fine.

[AJRimmsey]

mmm buddah23 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

i understand that.

but am also sort of glad for less as i always try every ending if theres a variety,and 16 would have been a real pain in the harris to go through.

i was kinda bored and tempted to youtube the third time even.

I just used the auto save you get when you arrive on the citadel and viewed all three. Im lazy, but at the same time, I have 3 characters, on neutral engineer (green ending) one renegade soldier (red ending), and one paragon adept (soon to be blue ending). I don tthink there should have been sixteeen options at the end where the star child goes on for an hour saying your options, I think 4 options should be available to you depending on what you chose to do over the course of 3 games, and of course, for people that did not play the 3 games, three is just fine.

so long between games i forgot what i had chosen in the others,so i didnt bother importing.

needed a recap section to remind what the previous save had.

plus that damn slow mo walk was really putting my mouse at risk of rupture

[Icemix]

mmm buddah23 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

i understand that.

but am also sort of glad for less as i always try every ending if theres a variety,and 16 would have been a real pain in the harris to go through.

i was kinda bored and tempted to youtube the third time even.

I just used the auto save you get when you arrive on the citadel and viewed all three. Im lazy, but at the same time, I have 3 characters, on neutral engineer (green ending) one renegade soldier (red ending), and one paragon adept (soon to be blue ending). I don tthink there should have been sixteeen options at the end where the star child goes on for an hour saying your options, I think 4 options should be available to you depending on what you chose to do over the course of 3 games, and of course, for people that did not play the 3 games, three is just fine.

I don't know where the number 16 came from, but that is obviosuly a bit far fetched. What really grinds my gears is all the lies to hype up people for the ending and then we get these "endings". Let me quote the producer for ME3 

''There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? ''

You don't say?

[mmm buddah23]

AJRimmsey wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

i understand that.

but am also sort of glad for less as i always try every ending if theres a variety,and 16 would have been a real pain in the harris to go through.

i was kinda bored and tempted to youtube the third time even.

I just used the auto save you get when you arrive on the citadel and viewed all three. Im lazy, but at the same time, I have 3 characters, on neutral engineer (green ending) one renegade soldier (red ending), and one paragon adept (soon to be blue ending). I don tthink there should have been sixteeen options at the end where the star child goes on for an hour saying your options, I think 4 options should be available to you depending on what you chose to do over the course of 3 games, and of course, for people that did not play the 3 games, three is just fine.

so long between games i forgot what i had chosen in the others,so i didnt bother importing.

needed a recap section to remind what the previous save had.

plus that damn slow mo walk was really putting my mouse at risk of rupture

tell me about it , my controllers hate me for playing 1 -3 all the time....the mako anyone? Those damned mountains!

[mmm buddah23]

Icemix wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

AJRimmsey wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

ITs not that the ending was terrible, it was the fact that there were supposed to be 16 variations, and there were only 3. Which anyone could choose no matter what your choices were in the other games, that s what made a lot of people angry. You ge the same choices as a renegade who said F everyone, as someone who helped everyone and united the galaxy. Its stupid. The endings that are there are OK, but the variety and consequences of previous games are what is just dumb.

i understand that.

but am also sort of glad for less as i always try every ending if theres a variety,and 16 would have been a real pain in the harris to go through.

i was kinda bored and tempted to youtube the third time even.

I just used the auto save you get when you arrive on the citadel and viewed all three. Im lazy, but at the same time, I have 3 characters, on neutral engineer (green ending) one renegade soldier (red ending), and one paragon adept (soon to be blue ending). I don tthink there should have been sixteeen options at the end where the star child goes on for an hour saying your options, I think 4 options should be available to you depending on what you chose to do over the course of 3 games, and of course, for people that did not play the 3 games, three is just fine.

I don't know where the number 16 came from, but that is obviosuly a bit far fetched. What really grinds my gears is all the lies to hype up people for the ending and then we get these "endings". Let me quote the producer for ME3 

''There are many different endings. We wouldn’t do it any other way. How could you go through all three campaigns playing as your Shepard and then be forced into a bespoke ending that everyone gets? ''

You don't say?

If I remember correctly the 16 variations were mentioned pre release, i dont have a link, but im sure if you look youll find it, im lazy. BUt yeah, the fact that in my vanilla plathrough, where i didnt do 1 -3 , got the same choices as my playthrough where i did 1 - 3 and helped everyone, is ridiculous. And outrageous.

[AkiKishi]

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

[lillitheris]

It's great that the OP liked the ending despite all its faults. I can respect that.

On that note, can all you who liked the ending and especially Synthesis come over to this thread to help figure out how Synthesis works? Serious request, I'm not snarking.

http://social.biowar.../index/11384306

[DaJe]

jacobdg wrote...

Because people complain for no reason. Everything will be improved in the Extended Cut.

What a horrible argument on so many levels. In case you are serious:

Game releases are not test runs. You test a product before it's release. The outrage should have been anticipated.

Also, what is done is done. Many people have played the game and for many people it destroyed their interest in the ME universe. You can't simply fix negative emotions that already happened.

The Extended Cut will most certainly not fix everything. It will still be the same ending with some more cutscenes to not leave the player absolutley clueless. As if it was a big surprise that after hundreds of hours players want closure to their stories.

It's just another way of making money. Fans pre-ordered or bought on the first day -> profit. Outrage over ending creates publicity. Extended Cut is supposed to fix problems. Publicity + supposed fix -> more profit.

Modifié par DaJe, 14 avril 2012 - 12:08 .

[InvincibleHero]

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

That is far more insulting than your purported point that BW insulted your intelligence saying fans didn't get it.

How about some are mature enough to accept a story decision by a content creator, put it in proper perspective, and are emotionally balanced and well-adjusted individuals. 

[kalle90]

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

You forgot those who don't aim to replay.

Seriously I saw all the bleak endings with the same character loading a game 5 minutes before the end. Why would I walk all my other Shepards to that same ending? I rather let them live in uncertainty, or even go back to suicide mission and kill them there letting Joker define the future.

[mmm buddah23]

kalle90 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

You forgot those who don't aim to replay.

Seriously I saw all the bleak endings with the same character loading a game 5 minutes before the end. Why would I walk all my other Shepards to that same ending? I rather let them live in uncertainty, or even go back to suicide mission and kill them there letting Joker define the future.

Thats another thing they liedabout, they said if you died, you would play on as someone else. But that was just another lie.

[Icemix]

InvincibleHero wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

That is far more insulting than your purported point that BW insulted your intelligence saying fans didn't get it.

How about some are mature enough to accept a story decision by a content creator, put it in proper perspective, and are emotionally balanced and well-adjusted individuals. 

:lol::lol::lol:

I'm sorry, but that us just hilarious.

[AkiKishi]

InvincibleHero wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

That is far more insulting than your purported point that BW insulted your intelligence saying fans didn't get it.

How about some are mature enough to accept a story decision by a content creator, put it in proper perspective, and are emotionally balanced and well-adjusted individuals. 

It's got nothing to do with being mature, the story is full of bad writing devices and plot holes. If people want to like the ending I don't really care , if they head canon their way around it, again don't really care. Trying to make out that the endings are not full of plot holes though , that's something else.

Bioware wrote a poor ending to a game and a ridiculous ending to a trilogy.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

Count me into the ''liked the ending'' group.

It was a good ending. If there had been additional endings besides this one, there would probably be less complaints.

Besides, it's pathetic to judge ME3 completely by it's ending. I had great fun throughout the game.

[Icemix]

mmm buddah23 wrote...

kalle90 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

You forgot those who don't aim to replay.

Seriously I saw all the bleak endings with the same character loading a game 5 minutes before the end. Why would I walk all my other Shepards to that same ending? I rather let them live in uncertainty, or even go back to suicide mission and kill them there letting Joker define the future.

Thats another thing they liedabout, they said if you died, you would play on as someone else. But that was just another lie.

Nah, they said if you died in ME2 you could not import into ME3. With the limitations of the xbox, I do not think it is possible to create such variety.

[Spaghetti_Ninja]

BobSmith101 wrote...

It's got nothing to do with being mature, the story is full of bad writing devices and plot holes. If people want to like the ending I don't really care , if they head canon their way around it, again don't really care. Trying to make out that the endings are not full of plot holes though , that's something else.

Bioware wrote a poor ending to a game and a ridiculous ending to a trilogy.

Yeah, the WHOLE story is actually full of plot holes, from the very first mission in ME1 onwards. Proving the existance of the Reapers, for one thing: apparently there is no video or audio available anywhere even though Saren and Sovereign are rampaging through the universe. There have been sites dedicated to pointing all of this out. I don't care.

The ending is simply on par with the rest of the games - no more, no less.

Modifié par Spaghetti_Ninja, 14 avril 2012 - 12:08 .

[InvincibleHero]

Icemix wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

That is far more insulting than your purported point that BW insulted your intelligence saying fans didn't get it.

How about some are mature enough to accept a story decision by a content creator, put it in proper perspective, and are emotionally balanced and well-adjusted individuals. 

:lol::lol::lol:

I'm sorry, but that us just hilarious.

It is the ending to a piece of entertainment that is not in your control.It is not some major life altering event or tragedy (I know that will be repurposed) that deserves actually rage and bitter resentment over so much time. It is a minor disappointment at best.

[mmm buddah23]

Icemix wrote...

mmm buddah23 wrote...

kalle90 wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

You forgot those who don't aim to replay.

Seriously I saw all the bleak endings with the same character loading a game 5 minutes before the end. Why would I walk all my other Shepards to that same ending? I rather let them live in uncertainty, or even go back to suicide mission and kill them there letting Joker define the future.

Thats another thing they liedabout, they said if you died, you would play on as someone else. But that was just another lie.

Nah, they said if you died in ME2 you could not import into ME3. With the limitations of the xbox, I do not think it is possible to create such variety.

No, when mass effect 3 was announced, they said that there would be someone different if you died, its only when ME 3 was released, did they put that little remark in the loading screen of 2.

[Il Divo]

Glad you liked it, OP. Now go back and play them all again!

Modifié par Il Divo, 14 avril 2012 - 12:11 .

[InvincibleHero]

BobSmith101 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

BobSmith101 wrote...

People who like the endings come in a couple of colours.

Those who have never played or heard of Deus Ex.
Those who don't pay attention to the details
Those who headcanon their way around the numerous plot holes.
Those who have no real concept of ME lore
Those who like space

That is far more insulting than your purported point that BW insulted your intelligence saying fans didn't get it.

How about some are mature enough to accept a story decision by a content creator, put it in proper perspective, and are emotionally balanced and well-adjusted individuals. 

It's got nothing to do with being mature, the story is full of bad writing devices and plot holes. If people want to like the ending I don't really care , if they head canon their way around it, again don't really care. Trying to make out that the endings are not full of plot holes though , that's something else.

Bioware wrote a poor ending to a game and a ridiculous ending to a trilogy.

It is mature not to rage out of proportion to a minor disappointment. There are plot holes in every game and no game is perfect. Good writing is subjective and variable in every game even internally. Some quests are awesome and others are not. Someone else might see it opposite my opinion.

I don't get the I was 99% satisfied people then go into rage over a small part of the game. Yeah a bad ending isn't fun, but isn't something that rates high on my rant and rave list. In the past, I just moved onto my next game because I realize the game is the maker's POV not mine. If it entertained me then all was good. If not then I would weigh their next offerings more carefully and only buy those that suit my tastes.