Goodbye Bioware
#51
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:38
#52
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:39
I am Zaalbar'tam Vas England, Proud member of the UK fleet... and this, IS NOT JUST A VIDEO GAME!!!Dragoonlordz wrote...
Farbautisonn wrote...
-Nope. I dont get bitter. I get even. This hasnt been the first time Ive cast my lot and my abilities behind a cause. Wont be the last either. I do it for ****e and giggles.BrookerT wrote...
Your'e very bitter aren't you:unsure:Delduwath Mordion wrote...
Or you could, you know, move on
with your lives. If people are so upset at the ending that they want to
stop buying games from Bioware then by all means do so. But please let
us who still actually enjoy Bioware's games do so without having to
listen to the same drivel over and over again.
-How about "no"? I feel that if I can save a few unfortunates souls from investing hundreds of dollers and hours into an IP where he is at the whim of "artistic vision" (cameltoes, ******, pew pew and nonsensical storyline) that will be ample reward. And you are here to counter me.
Besides... If you dont want to listen, then dont. Just buy the games and be happy.
Coming across as...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Modifié par zaalbar76, 14 avril 2012 - 11:40 .
#53
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:39
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
#54
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:42
Warden130 wrote...
Yeah, we don't care. There has been a lot of these. Can't you just... you know, leave without making a thread about it?
Says it all really.
#55
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:43
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
#56
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:51
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Absolutely
Everything is part of a global equation. Fighting for the ending of a video game can look dumb, but people fight for what it's important for them. In this case, they are fighting for the sense of hope that a bright and happy ending could provide, and they need that hope to feel alive.
If you just left them with a meaningless and useless depressive ending, that will be reflected on their real lives.
They will suffer for no reason, because those characters for wich they cared about died in an useless way, and due to the empathy, they fell exactly the same than those characters, a hopeless depresion.
Of course it's just a video game, but we keep going every day thanks to those kind of things.
Modifié par Doctor Uburian, 14 avril 2012 - 11:52 .
#57
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:52
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Emotional maturity. It's been a month, plenty of time to deal with hurt feelings and disappointment.
#58
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:53
When that thread has 10 000 names someone might notice.
#59
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:54
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Absolutely
Everything is part of a global equation. Fighting for the ending of a video game can look dumb, but people fight for what it's important for them. In this case, they are fighting for the sense of hope that a bright and happy ending could provide, and they need that hope to feel alive.
If you just left them with a meaningless and useless depressive ending, that will be reflected on their real lives.
They will suffer for no reason, because those characters for wich they cared about died in an useless way, and due to the empathy they fell exactly the same than those characters, a hopeless depresion.
Of course it's just a video game, but we keep going every day thanks to those kind of things.
That is actually the most understandable, and worst ideal I've ever heard to explain this. I am also someone who suffers from an addiction to Electronic Technology.
I'm not laughing, I'm feeling morbidly distasteful for you people.
#60
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:55
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Emotional maturity. It's been a month, plenty of time to deal with hurt feelings and disappointment.
Humanity and empathy
That's what keeps people fighting for something like the ending of a video game.
#61
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:57
incinerator950 wrote...
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Absolutely
Everything is part of a global equation. Fighting for the ending of a video game can look dumb, but people fight for what it's important for them. In this case, they are fighting for the sense of hope that a bright and happy ending could provide, and they need that hope to feel alive.
If you just left them with a meaningless and useless depressive ending, that will be reflected on their real lives.
They will suffer for no reason, because those characters for wich they cared about died in an useless way, and due to the empathy they fell exactly the same than those characters, a hopeless depresion.
Of course it's just a video game, but we keep going every day thanks to those kind of things.
That is actually the most understandable, and worst ideal I've ever heard to explain this. I am also someone who suffers from an addiction to Electronic Technology.
Then, i prefer to be someone laughable that being a simple machine.
#62
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:57
If you want BioWare to work on their issues so you can remain a customer, great. If you want to just share with the world your epically uninteresting tantrum, then just do it offline.
Modifié par Darth Krytie, 14 avril 2012 - 11:58 .
#63
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 11:59
Darth Krytie wrote...
I wish everyone who posted these idiotic threads would just leave the site. Quietly. No one cares. Take your toys and go home. Just shut up about it.
If you want BioWare to work on their issues so you can remain a customer, great. If you want to just share with the world your epically uninteresting tantrum, then just do it offline.
What they have done can not be fixed.
I'm here to give hope to those who have lost it because of bioware.
#64
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:00
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Darth Krytie wrote...
I wish everyone who posted these idiotic threads would just leave the site. Quietly. No one cares. Take your toys and go home. Just shut up about it.
If you want BioWare to work on their issues so you can remain a customer, great. If you want to just share with the world your epically uninteresting tantrum, then just do it offline.
What they have done can not be fixed.
I'm here to give hope to those who have lost it because of bioware.
Hope? Seriously? What sort of hope do you offer? Except my hope that everyone that is finally fully finished with BioWare will go away and stop posting here?
#65
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:03
Darth Krytie wrote...
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Darth Krytie wrote...
I wish everyone who posted these idiotic threads would just leave the site. Quietly. No one cares. Take your toys and go home. Just shut up about it.
If you want BioWare to work on their issues so you can remain a customer, great. If you want to just share with the world your epically uninteresting tantrum, then just do it offline.
What they have done can not be fixed.
I'm here to give hope to those who have lost it because of bioware.
Hope? Seriously? What sort of hope do you offer? Except my hope that everyone that is finally fully finished with BioWare will go away and stop posting here?
I'm trying to give the hope that the ending failed to deliver.
¨You can beat any odds if you work hard enough, and on team¨
#66
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:03
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Emotional maturity. It's been a month, plenty of time to deal with hurt feelings and disappointment.Humanity and empathy
That's what keeps people fighting for something like the ending of a video game.
It's the inability to move on.
The lack of emotional maturity to deal with your disappointment and a desire to dwell on the negative.
Revenge and acting out of spite for some.
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi
Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 avril 2012 - 12:07 .
#67
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:10
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Farbautisonn wrote...
^ This.Ronin1325 wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your taking it far too extreme. No matter what in the end it is still merely a video game.
Oh? Aside from the fact that Bioware wanted to make a story that deeply involved the players, but clearly wasn't prepared for the crappy ending backlash, let's talk about the Money. Many, many, many players were hooked on the Dev quotes that touted the amazing ending. We were sold a false bill of goods and EA/Bioware probably netted tens of millions of dollars based on the hyped ending alone. "Merely a video game." EA certainly doesn't think that (from a profit perspective at least) , why should we?
Also "It's only a car.", "It's only a refridgerator", "It's only a book.", "It's only a House." , "It's only a ring, who cares if it was supposed to be a diamond. Cubic Zirconia is just as shiny, isn't it?" that argument fails on so many levels.
Also... "Far too extreme"? Not really. Bioware addressed me as if I was an uncultured, illiterate pleb unable to grasp the genious of their endings, of their "artistic vision". Their sycophants did the same. So pray... tell me... why should I let that slide?
Emotional maturity. It's been a month, plenty of time to deal with hurt feelings and disappointment.Humanity and empathy
That's what keeps people fighting for something like the ending of a video game.
It's the inability to move on.
The lack of emotional maturity to deal with your disappointment and a desire to dwell on the negative.
Revenge and acting out of spite for some.
If that were true, why would only be machines.
I have ¨moved on¨ from lots and lots of things on my life, and that has not provided any kind of peace.
If you can move on, good for you
I'm not seeking revenge, i'm seeking justice.
Modifié par Doctor Uburian, 14 avril 2012 - 12:11 .
#68
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:11
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Emotional maturity. It's been a month, plenty of time to deal with hurt feelings and disappointment.
-Nice implied ad hominem there. Who made you an authority on "emotional maturity" and what does such a beast look like?
We all deal with lifes little twists in different ways. As long as they presume Im an idiot and address me as such, I will keep up what I do here. Untill I get bored or untill they stop, whichever comes first. But given the playing field of sycophants and pharisees here, I think my entertainment is guaranteed for quite a while.
#69
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:12
Dragoonlordz wrote...
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi
-Beggar.
#70
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:15
Doctor Uburian wrote...
If you just left them with a meaningless and useless depressive ending, that will be reflected on their real lives.
They will suffer for no reason, because those characters for wich they cared about died in an useless way, and due to the empathy, they fell exactly the same than those characters, a hopeless depresion.
Hello Annie Wilkes, how are you today ?
But seriously, you're not that bad. Little too obvious but so far you're doing good. About 7/10
#71
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:16
Good god this stuff is gold.
#72
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:17
Dragoonlordz wrote...
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi
It is better to go to defeat with free will than to live in a meaningless security as a cog in a machine.
Issac Asimov
And it's a bit hypocritical to use a quote from Gandhi to defend your arguments.
I don't want to harm anyone, i only want to help those who i can.
Modifié par Doctor Uburian, 14 avril 2012 - 12:20 .
#73
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:21
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi
It is better to go to defeat with free will than to live in a meaningless security as a cog in a machine.
Issac Asimov
If go down quote vs quote your comparing a science fiction writer to a guy who was one of the most pivotal figures of the twentieth century. Mine has more weight to it.
Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 avril 2012 - 12:23 .
#74
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:22
Doctor Uburian wrote...
Dragoonlordz wrote...
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. Mahatma Gandhi
It is better to go to defeat with free will than to live in a meaningless security as a cog in a machine.
Issac Asimov
And it's a bit hypocritical to use a quote from Gandhi to defend your arguments.
I don't want to harm anyone, i only want to help those who i can.
Your not helping anyone except yourself in your quest to hurt Bioware because they might have hurt your feelings.
Modifié par Dragoonlordz, 14 avril 2012 - 12:22 .
#75
Posté 14 avril 2012 - 12:23
Dragoonlordz wrote...
Your not helping anyone except yourself in your quest to hurt Bioware because they might have hurt your feelings.
-and you are?




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